Very Cute Picture of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes
Just when you thought I was done with the pictures of Tom and Katie from the Laguna Seca Moto GP…I found a couple of more really cute ones that I had to post. I found a few of Tom whispering something in Katie’s ear and it’s just one of those shots that I love when it comes to couples. Very intimate and it makes you wonder, “what in the world is he saying to her?“.
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67 opinions for Very Cute Picture of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes
Charlotte Rose
Jul 21, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Julie,
Am I allowed to say who is in the picture with them, or is that a big no-no? I won’t say a word unless you tell me it’s OK.
Oh wait….maybe everyone know’s. LOL! If so, sorry for assuming you don’t. Up until a year ago I wouldn’t have known. LOL!
concerned mom
Jul 21, 2008 at 7:18 pm
They are surrounded by people who came with them aren’t they? Cute pictures tho but DM creeps me out a bit..
Annie
Jul 21, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Yes ,we saw who was there, i don’t see what the problem is the man is toms friend and best man, he is toms friend in private so why not in public, i don’t see the difference if D BECKAM or W SMITH ,was there, DM is TCs friend like they are.
tyler
Jul 21, 2008 at 8:29 pm
CR: Why not? It’s completely on topic since he’s in the photo Julie posted. Everyone knows who it is, David Miscavige, the head of CoS and Tom’s best man at his wedding. It’s common knowledge that they’re best friends.
PuckHappy
Jul 21, 2008 at 11:05 pm
And like Annie said, they are friends in private.
I really do not put WS and DB as having the same type of friendship with tc as DM has with tc.
Dm and tc are tight.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:12 am
The reason I didn’t say who it was is because the last time I brought up his name and posted the link to the Splash pictures, my post was deleted. Then Julie went ahead and posted the pics. I’m confused.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:22 am
i don’t see the difference if D BECKAM or W SMITH ,was there, DM is TCs friend like they are.
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OK Annie.
You don’t see a difference between Becks, Will and Miscavige? I have to say I certainly do. The guy has a not so nice reputation in the world, unlike Tom’s other friends. Have you ever heard him speak and heard the things he has to say? I have and lets just say I wouldn’t want to be associated with him.
Having been a Tom fan for over 20 years, I did some pretty extensive research on Scientology and David Miscavige - very extensive. Even to going to an org to ask questions and reading their books. I wanted to be as unbiased as possible before I formed an opinion. When I heard Miscavige speak and listened to what he said, I was mortified. He’s not a nice man. That’s my opinion.
Tom can be friends with whomever he chooses, but I believe in the old adage, “Tell me who you travel with and I’ll tell you what you are.” Tom’s involvement with DM really turned me off because of what he stands for and believes in and the way he runs Scientology.
Of course, that’s just my opinion. Everyone really has to do their own research to decide what they think.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:26 am
ps. Gee….I hope my comments won’t be deleted. I’m sharing my opinion in the least controversial way I can think of. Annie saying that she doesn’t see a difference between Miscavige and Will or Becks deserved an answer and I would rather be honest and upfront.
I’m not trying to start problems here…..it’s just that Scientology is a huge factor in Tom’s life. I don’t see how you can have any meaningful conversation about him without discussing it.
I also think everyone needs to do their own research. I’m not about to shove my opinion down anyone’s throat (unlike some people we know….LOL!!), but it’s there and it’s part of the reason why Tom is looked at the way he is now.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:30 am
I also wanted to correct my statement saying that up until a year ago, I didn’t know who DM was. Actually, I found out who he was when Tom married Katie. I didn’t find out anything about him until about a year ago though.
Sorry for all the posts in row. I keep remembering things as I go along! LOL!!
Annie
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:45 am
Charlotte Rose, i can have a very meaningful conversation about TC without having to mention Scientology. i’m trying to figure you out, i’m almost there.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:19 am
Charlotte Rose, i can have a very meaningful conversation about TC without having to mention Scientology. i’m trying to figure you out, i’m almost there.
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Let me know if you need any help figuring me out, Annie. I’ll be happy to answer any questions you have. Why don’t you just ask. It’s easier.
Man….this is one interesting place. LOL!! I’m AMAZED by the us against them attitude I see. The judgement passed around here is pretty incredible!
My point is that Scientology is huge part of Cruise’s life. In that way, it’s not something you can ignore totally. It influences who he is as a person just the way our life experiences influence us.
Which part of my post bothered you? The part where I expressed my opinion, or the part where I said I wasn’t about to shove my opinions down anyone’s throat? I have no intention of getting into a debate or discussing the issues with Scientology.
WOW! You really need to watch everything you say around here lest you have people “figuring you out”. LOL!!
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:24 am
Cute pics! I like what Katie is wearing.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:25 am
Completely OT, is there a way to contact Julie or a way to check the rules of the site?
I need a clarification of what is and what is not acceptable.
Thanks!!
Annie
Jul 22, 2008 at 4:56 am
WOW, Charlotte Rose, you don’t have to watch whatever you say, actually you can say whatever you want. the problem is, you go on and on, and then when someone gives their opinion or how they see the situation, you make a big deal out of something you don’t agree with or misunderstand, it seems you can only be on the same page with someone, if they don’t like TC, you’re the one drawing up , the them and us list, i’m not about get into a discussion about SCIE, becausei don’t care what religion anyone is, TC is husband, father ,son, brother, actor, producer, so SCIEis only a part of his life.
Lauren
Jul 22, 2008 at 5:57 am
Ever thought about it, if Katie was married to David Miscavige, no one would even care that much, ironic isn’t it?
Who cares anyway, we have the pictures, they are beautiful pictures and if Tom minded that people see him with David, he would never have made him his best man. No one cares that much about Miscavidge, that is why it is no big deal on the internet that Tom is with him, the vandetta is against Tom and Tom alone. Scientology is an excuse.
In a way I guess all the attacks only strengthen their marriage. I would worry about the longevity of their relationship if they were a ‘golden couple’ with no critics. Nothing turns off like a spouse whose is fawned over by the masses whose weaknesses you have to live with everyday. It eventually gets to you.
In an ‘us against the world’ relationship, you bond more because you try to see the good in your spouse when the whole world is warning you about the bad. Now am no psychologist, but I noticed this even applies in non celeb, next door relationships. Unidealic relationships tend to last more than those ideal ones. No always but usually.
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 6:46 am
Regarding faith I say to each his own.
When I read what celebs like Christian Bale did to his family, or Sean Connery to his son, and all the other crazy things celebs get up to, its safe to say that TC is a descent human being and as a celebrity he is living an exemplary life. That matters to me not his faith!
tyler
Jul 22, 2008 at 7:02 am
Lauren,
Good for you that you’re not a psychologist because, if you were, Tom would have it out for you since he wants to wipe them off the face of this earth. LOL.
I do agree that it must feel like them against the world right now. You can tell as much by their body language.
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 7:30 am
LOL! I meant to write a decent human being NOT descent.
PuckHappy
Jul 22, 2008 at 7:32 am
If I may, I take what CR is saying is that the way some worship tc, would be like worshiping the Pope and all he does and all he stands for.
But yet not care that the Pope is Catholic and full on represents the Catholic church.
amy
Jul 22, 2008 at 7:41 am
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“Annie
Jul 22, 2008 at 4:56 am
WOW, Charlotte Rose, you don’t have to watch whatever you say, actually you can say whatever you want. the problem is, you go on and on, and then when someone gives their opinion or how they see the situation, you make a big deal out of something you don’t agree with or misunderstand”
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Actually, you CAN’T say whatever you want on this site - we ALL know that - there are rules which dictate what can and cannot be said about many many things here - that is a FACT
Charlotte Rose - you are NOT the one that “goes on and on, and then when someone gives their opinion or how they see the situation, you make a big deal out of something you don’t agree with or misunderstand”
and i disagree - if katie WERE married to DM people WOULD care - just the same way as they are caring about who she is married to at the moment - it would still present the same issues most of us are concerned about regarding her present marriage to a much older senior member of what many claim is a deadly, money spinning cult.
Mary
Jul 22, 2008 at 8:08 am
Tom Cruise is an actor and yes a member of a controversial religion………Many other celebrities are members and have spoken out in defense of their religion and none in no way shape or form have had to deal with the sustained smear campaign that not only TC but his entire family and those who have stood up for him have had to deal with.
Tom Cruise’s faith matters not a whit to me!
I think the pictures of him and Katie are adorable!
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 10:01 am
WOW, Charlotte Rose, you don’t have to watch whatever you say, actually you can say whatever you want. the problem is, you go on and on, and then when someone gives their opinion or how they see the situation, you make a big deal out of something you don’t agree with or misunderstand, it seems you can only be on the same page with someone, if they don’t like TC, you’re the one drawing up , the them and us list, i’m not about get into a discussion about SCIE, becausei don’t care what religion anyone is, TC is husband, father ,son, brother, actor, producer, so SCIEis only a part of his life.
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I didn’t make a “big deal” about anything, Annie. I tend to be a wordy type of person and I write alot. That’s all.
And I responded to you statement the way I did because you were obviously judging me as an individual . Your comment “i’m trying to figure you out, i’m almost there.” clearly shows that. All you have to do is ASK, rather than sit there in judgement. It’s really that easy.
As for vendetta’s and the other comments I’ve seen, I’m not in that camp. I made an informed decision. That’s all.
Thanks amy for coming to my defense. IMHO, it was decided when I arrived that I wasn’t right for this forum for whatever reason, but that’s OK. I’m here.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 10:09 am
and i disagree - if katie WERE married to DM people WOULD care - just the same way as they are caring about who she is married to at the moment - it would still present the same issues most of us are concerned about regarding her present marriage to a much older senior member of what many claim is a deadly, money spinning cult.
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I agree amy. IMO, the general public is very concerned about that one issue as evidenced by the change in Tom’s popularity. If he were just practicing his chosen religion quietly, I don’t think people would have a problem with it, but when he spoke the way he did on The Today Show and several interveiws that preceeded it, he turned off alot of people. That’s when he turned me off, to be honest. It got me thinking and eventually, I did the research to find out what Scientology is and made my decision.
I guess what I’m trying to say is I don’t think people care what religion Tom is, but I do think they care about his views and the way he presented them. That got alot of people thinking and looking into Scientology and what you have now is the result.
As for Tom being married to Miscavige, I don’t think he’d look nearly as happy as he does now considering they’re both male. LOL!!
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 10:13 am
Tom Cruise is an actor and yes a member of a controversial religion………Many other celebrities are members and have spoken out in defense of their religion and none in no way shape or form have had to deal with the sustained smear campaign that not only TC but his entire family and those who have stood up for him have had to deal with.
Tom Cruise’s faith matters not a whit to me!
I think the pictures of him and Katie are adorable!
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Hi Mary,
I think the pictures are adorable too! I was just reacting with surprise to Miscavige being there since I was hoping that Tom was less influenced by him now.
I don’t recall any Scientologist of the stature that Tom is in the industry, speaking out the way he did. I think that essentially brought hell and high water down on himself. What resulted was a reaction to what he said. Had he left his religious beliefs private, none of this would have happened.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 10:17 am
If I may, I take what CR is saying is that the way some worship tc, would be like worshiping the Pope and all he does and all he stands for.
But yet not care that the Pope is Catholic and full on represents the Catholic church.
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Exactly what I meant, PuckHappy. Thanks for explaining that so much better than I did!!
When you’re seen with the head of a church, be it the Pope or the head of another religion, IMO you’re seen as being in full support of all the policies of that church, good or bad. I think thats the way many people see Tom. As a representitive of his church.
Mary
Jul 22, 2008 at 11:36 am
Hi Charlotte Rose.
Tom being seen with Miscavige has nothing to do with him having any influence over Tom…..,……It simply means he likes motorcross as well. He seems to be enjoying himself in those pics.
John Travolta, another high ranking church member has said more than once that he agreed with everything TC has said, be might have said it differently but he agrees with him. He has said many things that the media and others have ignored but if TC had said any if those things he would be roasted!
So, if you’re seen with the head of a religion and it means that you endorse everything that religion represents then it stands to reason that many
heads of state and much of the general public are endorsing what the Catholic Church did for many years in not addressing the abuses by it’s very own priests.
If one is going to use that analogy then they are many people in religion and out of religion who should be questioning who they are seen with.
concerned mom
Jul 22, 2008 at 11:36 am
Perish the thought that Katie would have married DM! Of course he is already married for years and years even though his wife is seen very very rarely. I think one of the pictures of her is at that track they just all went to.
Julie
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Charlotte Rose - you can contact me at anytime by sending an email to julie.bonner at b5media.com. Also, check the comment policy page. It’s listed under pages. I have a policy against people posting links but I have been a little lenient lately. I have found that a lot of people don’t understand how to post a link without putting it in the comment box. I will delete links that have nothing to do with the post itself, or link to sites that are obviously anti-Tom Cruise.
In regards to Scientology and discussing it…this is a hard one and such a touchy subject. I don’t mind you pointing out someone in a picture that is friends with Tom via his church. There’s no problem with that. It becomes a problem when people start arguing about Scientology. This is not the place to do it. There are obviously a lot of people all over the internet with very strong objections to his beliefs. That is completely fine, but if they want to argue about it, they have to do it somewhere else.
The main focus of this site is Tom, Katie, Suri, Connor, Isabella and the careers and daily lives of them all. It is not a site to educate people about Scientology. As some have said above, it is possible to discuss someone’s career and life and not discuss their beliefs. I know a lot do not agree with that statement and that’s okay. But that’s the stand I take and I am sticking by it.
If you are a major anti-Tom or anti-Scientology person, then I can tell you right now that this may not be the best place to comment. It is a fan site and comments which bash Tom and his beliefs will be deleted or I will disable comments on a certain post if things get out of hand.
I hope by reading the comment policy and what I have just said clears a few things up for you.
Julie
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:45 pm
I would like to ask everyone to please stop calling Scientology a cult. That is very strong language and I am going to start deleting it out of respect for Tom and Katie.
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:53 pm
TC hasn’t talk about his religion for 3 years…its time to move on. If anyone is concerned about Cos there are website they can go to talk about that.
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:55 pm
I’m sorry Julie. We must have been typing at the same time. You can delete my comment.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Dear Julie,
Thank you very much for your response. I really appreciate it. We’ve just cross posted, but I wanted to respond to you.
I’ve found the comment policy and will follow it. I also appreciate your giving me your e-mail address, but honestly, you’ve cleared up alot with just this one post. Thank you very much.
I have no intention of coming here to fight about Scientology. I may discuss it, as I just did in my post to Mary, but I will do so respectfully. If I find that someone is becoming upset, I’ll cut off the conversation. I can absolutely remain calm and polite during a discussion, even if there is a fundamental disagreement.
Also, I am not a “major” anti-Tom person or anti-Scientology person. I did the research because I was a long term fan of Tom’s to find out for myself what it was all about. I’ve drawn my own conclusions but I don’t post anywhere else about it or participate in bashing. Tom has a right to believe in whatever he chooses. I may disagree with him, but I won’t bash him personally. That’s just not right.
Since I’ve arrived, I’ve been accused of being someone else and I’ve been judged like crazy. I find that a little hurtful, but I guess that’s the nature of being on a blog. This is not something I’ve ever done before so I really don’t know. I’m learning as I go along.
With me, what you see is what you get. As long as someone is polite, I enjoy discussion, not arguing. Arguing is no fun for anyone.
Again, I won’t do any bashing. I’ll just state my opinion as politely as possible, discuss politely and if things start to get heated, I have no problem backing away. I’m sure you’ll take care of it from there.
Thanks again for being so helpful. Your post and the comment policy have really helped alot and look forward to posting on this blog.
Julie
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Hana - I just edited it. :)
Charlotte Rose - I’m glad some things were cleared up for you. :) Let me know where you were accused of being someone else so I can take care of that comment. I don’t allow that, so I must have over-looked that comment.
Also, anytime you feel threatened or attacked, please email me so that I can take care of it. This should be a place where everyone’s opinions are respected and we can say what we think (respectfully of course, lol) without being attacked. There are a lot of strong, wonderful personalities around here and like you said, it is an interesting place!! :)
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:06 pm
TC hasn’t talk about his religion for 3 years…its time to move on. If anyone is concerned about Cos there are website they can go to talk about that.
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Are you telling me to leave or is it that you just don’t care for my opinion and want me to stop talking, Hana? I’m sorry my opinion troubles you, but I felt the need to respond to Mary who was quite polite. I find this discussion interesting.
It seems to me that Julie is OK with some discussion as long as it’s done respectfully and without bashing Tom. My responses have all been polite and I’m not bashing Tom or other posters. I’m adhering to her rules and will continue to do so. Julie deserves that respect.
I would appreciate if you would treat me with the same politeness and respect that you would treat anyone else on this board. You essentially told me to be quiet and I find that offensive. I would never do that to you. Please be polite and adhere to the rules of the board. That’s all I ask. Thanks.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Oops! We cross posted again, Julie! LOL!!
I just responded to Hana’s post in its original form. I’m sorry about that! If you think it’s the right thing to do, please delete my comments.
I promise you I will be very polite and adhere to the rules and I will take you up on your offer and contact you if I feel attacked. Thank you so much. You’ve been so helpful!!
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 3:25 pm
“Are you telling me to leave or is it that you just don’t care for my opinion and want me to stop talking, Hana? I’m sorry my opinion troubles you, but I felt the need to respond to Mary who was quite polite. I find this discussion interesting.”
CR: Why didn’t you just ask me what I meant, instead of trying to put words to my mouth. That is how things start to get heated up on this blog.
Firstly, my comment was not just meant for you. I haven’t said anything to make you think your comment was troubling to me.
I was talking in general…TC hasn’t talk about his religion for a while now but people keep brining up what he said or did in 2005. And what I meant with my comment was, I think he has learned from his mistake and its time to move on and stop judging him for his past mistakes because now it seems like he is indeed practising his religion quietly.
tyler
Jul 22, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Hana,
The reason people don’t sweep you-know-what under the rug is because they know he’s just acting now. The prior incidents were the real McCoy, and there were plenty of them, not one or two.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 4:22 pm
TC hasn’t talk about his religion for a while now but people keep brining up what he said or did in 2005. And what I meant with my comment was, I think he has learned from his mistake and its time to move on and stop judging him for his past mistakes because now it seems like he is indeed practising his religion quietly.
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I don’t think the fact that Tom has not spoken out since 2005 negates what he said and how offensive it was to some of us. He also has not said anything that demonstrates to me that he’s changed his views. He let the cat out the bag on the Today show and finished it up with that Scientology video. Nothing he’s said since changes that. Atleast not for me. I saw a side of Tom I hadn’t really looked at before, and I think many others did as well.
Not speaking about it doesn’t make what he said go away for me. Nor does it negate what I saw in that video he made for Scientology. That’s the one that really knocked my socks off. He opened a huge can of worms back in 2005 and I think he’s paying for it dearly.
I don’t know if Tom realizes he made a mistake. Only someone who knows him would know that for sure. I can only hope he does realize it for his own benefit. I really do wish him the best.
Anne
Jul 22, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Christian Bale beats up his mother and that is OK. I wonder if it was Tom Cruise what people would say. I like Christian Bale, I hope there is a mistake somewhere.
It is rather sad and pathetic really that we cling on three, almost four year old incidents to vilify someone. Even R.Kelly’s a paedo has been given a second chance. And many worse stars have been forgiven and forgotten even though we know they still behave hideously. Well to each their own, lets see whether after 5 or ten years we will still be saying ‘in 2005, Tom open a an of worms…… blah blah blah.
I am glad Tom has said nothing in the last three years, regardless of what he feels. We all have principles that are controversial. I know I do. His critics are pretty soon going to sound ridiculous. If you can’t forgive the what right doyou have to vilify any one?
tyler
Jul 22, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Anne,
Sorry, but you started this. Do your controversial views include wiping everyone who doesn’t agree with your views or beliefs off the face of the earth? How did Cruise put it? Relegate them to history books? If so, I understand why you said what you did above.
His critics will sound ridiculous to whom? It has been three years and, so far, we don’t see any sign of that happening.
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Hi Anne!
I know I’m the one who brought up the stuff about Bale, and I think I didn’t make myself clear before…its only an allegations at the moment.
Personally, I’m sorry but after 3 years I’m all talked out and moved on from what TC did or said in 2005, including the video he made around 2004 where he was speaking to members of the Cos. I think its safe to say that the majority of the pubic has moved on (only minority of bloggers go on and on about it) but I’m sorry some of you haven’t.
Here is a great article about this. Check the link.
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Hi Anne!
I know I’m the one who brought up the stuff about Bale, and I think I didn’t make myself clear before…its only allegations at the moment.
Personally, I’m sorry but after 3 years I’m all talked out and moved on from what TC did or said in 2005, including the video he made around 2004 where he was speaking to members of the Cos. I think its safe to say that the majority of the pubic has moved on (only minority of bloggers go on and on about it) but I’m sorry some of you haven’t.
Here is a great article about this. Check the link.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Christian Bale beats up his mother and that is OK. I wonder if it was Tom Cruise what people would say. I like Christian Bale, I hope there is a mistake somewhere.
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That’s DEFINITELY NOT OK, Anne, but I’ll wait to see how it all turns out before I say anything. I like Bale also. I hope there’s more to it than meets the eye.
It is rather sad and pathetic really that we cling on three, almost four year old incidents to vilify someone. Even R.Kelly’s a paedo has been given a second chance. And many worse stars have been forgiven and forgotten even though we know they still behave hideously. Well to each their own, lets see whether after 5 or ten years we will still be saying ‘in 2005, Tom open a an of worms…… blah blah blah.
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Well….as you said to each their own. Is the blah, blah, blad directed toward me? LOL!! I see you don’t like my opinion, but thats OK. I’m as tenacious as Tom. I stand by what I believe and don’t back down easily. Time doesn’t negate what I see as the fact of the matter. From my point of view, he hasn’t changed his beliefs, just gone underground because they damaged his career. He disappointed me tremendously.
I agree with tyler. His views are far too controversial to be ignored….for me anyway. But again, that’s just my opinion. He certainly has a right to his beliefs and you have a right to yours as well.
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I am glad Tom has said nothing in the last three years, regardless of what he feels. We all have principles that are controversial. I know I do. His critics are pretty soon going to sound ridiculous. If you can’t forgive the what right doyou have to vilify any one?
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I’m really glad Tom has been quiet too. I see it as the only way he’ll be able to continue his career in a meaningful way and I would like to see him do that. He’s an outstanding actor.
I’m not vilifying anyone, dear. I have an opinion and I shared it. I think we’re all entitled to that. I didn’t say he should be shot, did I? That would be a villification. LOL!! I don’t see him as a villan. Just misguided. I disagree with his choices. That’s my right just as it’s his to be a Scientologist. We’re all entitled to freedom or speech, freedom of expression AND freedom of relgion. I support all of that.
Also, I would sincerely appreciate if you would NOT accuse me of something I haven’t done (ie villify Tom). I’ve been respectful in my discussion, not accused anyone of anything, and been polite. Can you please do the same?
Just because we have a difference of opinion does not mean we can’t remain polite and respectful to one another! Thanks.
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 5:57 pm
OMG!
CR: why do you take everyone’s comment as if its meant for you? Do you think this blog is all about you?
From what I read, Anne, didn’t really direct her comment at you. Its sounded to me like she was making a general comment just like I was.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 6:10 pm
CR: why do you take everyone’s comment as if its meant for you? Do you think this blog is all about you?
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No dear. I believe the blog is about Tomkat.
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From what I read, Anne, didn’t really direct her comment at you. Its sounded to me like she was making a general comment just like I was.
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Since my post was the one just above hers and she obviously responded to it, I found it pretty safe to assume that she was talking to me. She also quoted me (ie the “can of worms” comment). Either way, I strongly felt I didn’t villify Tom so I responded. Is that OK with you?
I think sometimes you guys hide your upset behind saying “I wasn’t talking to you”. It seems to happen alot. If Anne wasn’t talking to me, then perhaps she’ll be kind enough to tell me who she was talking to…..the I can apologize. If she was talking to the whole forum, I’m just responding to her post.
Is this the way it’s going to be? Every comment I make is followed by a complaint?
I just have a opinion that differs from yours. It’s not that big of deal! If it’s not something you want to read, just skip my posts.
Also Hana, could you try to be more polite, please!! Asking me if I think this blog is all about ME is a little offensive. It’s just not nice and you don’t see me acting that way when you post. PLEASE BE NICE. If you don’t agree with my opinions, then either ignore them or jump into the discussion, but I think we can all do without the sarcasm. It’s not fair.
I’m starting to feel villified around here! LOL!
Guys!! I’m JUST A PERSON WITH A DIFFERENT OPINION!
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 6:32 pm
There was no sarcasm in my post. I did ask the question because you seem to think most comments are directed at you…that was a question. I’m indeed polite, Im sorry you don’t think so.
If I was talking to you, I usually direct my question to you and that is how others have been doing it to. Anne might have quoted one word but her comment did sound like to TC’s critics not just you. If she says otherwise I’ll apologize.
“Is this the way it’s going to be? Every comment I make is followed by a complaint?”
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Its not really a complaint…its a discussion and its usually like this. I think you should just take a look at some of the old threads to get an idea.
“I just have a opinion that differs from yours. It’s not that big of deal! If it’s not something you want to read, just skip my posts.”
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It doesn’t really work like that…sometimes people might not agree with what you’ve to say and that turns into a discussion.
Anne
Jul 22, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Charlotte,
I am sorry but I rarely read your posts, just skim through them once in a while. Read the first couple of them and knew what you were about. Too long, tedious and say nothing new. Maybe you just want attention, but believe me, with all due respect, you are the least of my interest here. :)
There are posters who are very interesting and I never miss them, even those who are not particularly fans but have original ideas, are mature and make sense. Not yours my dear. Heard it all before, kindly ask any poster here.
The beauty about blogging is that you can always skip what you don’t want to read. Of course you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. Say your mind by all means.
Mind you, skimming through your ealier post, I realised that concerned mom had said all that including ‘…a can of worms’. You just missed including that the ‘horse is out of the barn.. blah blah blah…. or maybe you did, and I just skimmed over it. Couldn’t care less.
I hope we can respectifly post along side each other without anyone feeling vilified. That victim mentality gets a bit old. If I have offended you in anyway, I apologise. Feel free to skip my posts by all means if they make you feel vilified. Thank you.
Hana, thanks for the link. I heart you :)
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Thank you so very much for your really kind words and generous reply. I now know alot more about you as a person than I did a few days ago. ;)
I do believe we can post along each other quite effectively since I’m not going anywhere despite the best efforts of some posters.
Have a lovely evening dear.
Annie
Jul 22, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Thanks for that Hanna…….Miranda Divine has a reputation for being one of the better quality journalists, she’s very fair in whatever she writes, but she’ll tear you apart, if it calls for it, especially the politicians. not too many people were being fair to TC at the time , and thats putting it mildly, so yes , i appreciated her article.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Its not really a complaint…its a discussion and its usually like this. I think you should just take a look at some of the old threads to get an idea.
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Thank you for the advice, Hana. I’ll certainly do that as soon as I have time.
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It doesn’t really work like that…sometimes people might not agree with what you’ve to say and that turns into a discussion.
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I think discussion is a good thing. As long as it remains about the SUBJECT OF THE FORUM, not about an individual on the forum. I find that objectionable, but hey…..that’s just me. Obviously, not everyone feels the same.
I’m learning an awful lot today! I see exactly where some individuals are coming from so it’s been quite the education. I’ll be putting the newfound information to good use in my future posts. :0)
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 6:52 pm
CR: Some people might find the way you keep referring to myself and others as “dear” a bit condescending. That is not very polite.
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 6:59 pm
“Thanks for that Hanna…….Miranda Divine has a reputation for being one of the better quality journalists, she’s very fair in whatever she writes, but she’ll tear you apart, if it calls for it, especially the politicians. not too many people were being fair to TC at the time , and thats putting it mildly, so yes , i appreciated her article.”
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Annie: You’re welcome. Yes its a great article, MD hit the nail on the head.
CR: You have a lovely evening too!
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 7:04 pm
CR: Some people might find the way you keep referring to myself and others as “dear” a bit condescending. That is not very polite.
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It’s in no way condescending and if you took it that way, I apologize. That’s simply my way of speaking. Perhaps as you get to know me, you’ll see that. :)
Anne called me “dear” in her post as well. Does that mean she was being condescending toward me? Hmmmmm. Live and learn! LOL!!
“There are posters who are very interesting and I never miss them, even those who are not particularly fans but have original ideas, are mature and make sense. Not yours my dear. Heard it all before, kindly ask any poster here.”
Hana
Jul 22, 2008 at 7:07 pm
“Anne called me “dear” in her post as well. Does that mean she was being condescending toward me? ”
Yes.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Good to know, Hana!! Then why not object to her being condescending? Seems rules only apply to some around here. LOL!! Sorry….I’m still not going away!!
I’m not like Anne. I don’t use endearments as weapons. That’s the way I talk and I’m not about to change at this stage of my life. Sorry!
Charlotte Rose
Jul 22, 2008 at 7:31 pm
You know, I’m really quite shocked by all of this. Both Anne and Hana’s most recent posts were not about MY OPINION, but rather personal attacks against me because I have a different opinion. I find that sad and quite rude. As I said, I’m learning an awful lot about the posters on this blog and most of it has not be pleasant today.
I found it especially sad when when I asked whether Anne was being condescending when she used the term “dear” and the very plain response was “yes”. That’s low and uncalled for.
It was my understanding from Julie that we were not to bash Tom, Katie or other posters. I’m sad that some individuals couldn’t be mature enough to just agree to disagree and move on, but rather seem to feel the need to attempt to drive me from the forum with open insults. Atleast that’s the way I feel. Sadly, their efforts are wasted. I’m not going anywhere.
I simply do not understand why we can’t be civil to one another. It doesn’t make sense to me! We’re all people and we’re all entitled to our opinions which can be presented in a polite manner.
I do believe the rules apply to EVERYONE, myself and all the other posters on this blog.
At this point, I think we need to have Julie sort this out. I’m clear on the rules and I intend to follow them. I would appreciate if everyone else would do the same. Thank You.
Annie
Jul 22, 2008 at 8:39 pm
since when has a 46 yr man or woman become a senior citizen, i’m seriously insulted here.
Annie
Jul 23, 2008 at 12:37 am
my mistake, please disregard that comment .
tyler
Jul 23, 2008 at 12:40 am
CR: Well, I’d say you have been initiated.
They’re trying to scare you off. Don’t let them. It irks them that most of the world doesn’t share their opinions of Cruise and his family.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 23, 2008 at 12:57 am
CR: Well, I’d say you have been initiated.
They’re trying to scare you off. Don’t let them. It irks them that most of the world doesn’t share their opinions of Cruise and his family.
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So I see, tyler! LOL!! It’s pretty obvious that some are trying to push me away.
I won’t be going anywhere though.
Hana
Jul 23, 2008 at 2:37 am
Oh my, CR, after my last comment yesterday night (it was very late where I live), I didn’t stay around for the rest of the discussion, so that is why you didn’t get another response from me.
I didn’t read Anne’s comment properly until after you pointed it out to me. I’ve never read her referring to anyone as “dear” before.Yes, two wrongs don’t make a right! I did say yes, she was condescending to you, by that I was indeed admitting she was the same as you and not polite.
CR: No one want you to go away. Just try to be polite and not take everything so personally as if its meant for you. You are indeed attacking people by accusing them of attacks and being nasty, when some of us are only discussing things politely. According to you even asking questions are attacks now.
The only person here who turns every discussion so personal and about the individual instead of the topic is you. You keep making yourself out to be the “victim”.
Hana
Jul 23, 2008 at 2:50 am
“They’re trying to scare you off. Don’t let them. It irks them that most of the world doesn’t share their opinions of Cruise and his family”
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Tyler, I disagree with you. We’ve never had a problem like this with you before or even PuckHappy. Its true we don’t always share the same opinions and the discussion gets carried away for that reason but just because we get to have our say, it doesn’t mean we’re all trying to scare you off.
There are people some of us don’t always agree with and we do discuss that properly, sometimes with sarcasm from both side, but I haven’t noticed anything like what we had with CR for the last few days.
Tyler, I actually enjoy yours, and Lilianne’s (who I think is the only neutral person on this blog) comments, so I’m glad to hear that you won’t be scared off by anyone.
Lauren
Jul 23, 2008 at 3:36 am
This is spiralling out of control. Lets agree to disagree.
I propose that a song is composed about Tom Cruise’s evils. That way, we can just sing them since they are becoming a song anyway and nothing new comes up. Anyone second my idea?
Charlotte, personally I have no problem with you, just that what you say has already been said. Forgiving is a virtue, if we never forgave, we would live alone in our towers of self righteousness. I don’t hold anything against Tom since he apologised, has not said anything in a long time and he is a good man. I have forgiven people who have done worse.
Hana’s article by Meredith mirrors my exact sentiments. That is why I have always insisted that this is not about Scientology, or what Tom Cruise has said and done. It is about Tom Cruise the person. He is rich, famous, happy and has it all. Some people just can’t take that. Not when their own lives are empty and full of sadness.
Hana
Jul 23, 2008 at 4:44 am
I forgot to add that I didn’t really take the “dear” comment so personally. I just wanted to point it out to CR that its not polite to use it that way, since she is asking everyone else to be very polite.
“Lets agree to disagree.”
I agree! :)
Lilianne
Jul 23, 2008 at 7:26 am
I don’t really know how pictures of Tom and Katie at some race turned into a discussion of Scientology..but there it is. I know that religion(like politics) can touch some nerves and that is to be expected I guess. It just bothers me to see people picked on and put down because they have a different opinion than someone else.
It also bothers me to have some imply that the postings of others aren’t valid or wanted because the content might be something they’ve heard before. My impression about this is that some are saying that others should be quiet here because they are repeating themselves or saying things that have been heard before. That isn’t reasonable or kind by any stretch of the imagination. If someone doesn’t like the tone or content of a certain people’s posts then perhaps they should make a policy of skipping over them. But let’s not pick on each other or be mean. I would assume that most of us here are adults and as such we should be above such behavior.
hockeyfan
Jul 23, 2008 at 10:02 am
Why is everyone always fighting on this site? I actually only notice it from some people - arguing about every little thing a person comments on about the Cruises. Who cares if they don’t like Tom? Why can’t one person say “Tom’s shirt is ugly” without someone else jumping down their throat?
Julie
Jul 23, 2008 at 12:27 pm
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