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Tom Cruise Singing “You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling” From Top Gun

by leora on March 29th, 2007

Not to be outdone by his young wife, here’s a clip of Tom Cruise singing "You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling" from the movie Top Gun:

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225 opinions for Tom Cruise Singing “You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling” From Top Gun

  • Helen
    Mar 29, 2007 at 8:17 am

    Thank you for that clip webmisterss. I love this movie.

  • Anne
    Mar 29, 2007 at 10:26 am

    I can’t get the clip on my computer!

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 29, 2007 at 10:44 am

    isn’t this the song he sung at his……..wedding, all the while gazing lovingly into David Misgaves eyes

  • bumblebee
    Mar 29, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    So now it´s David who is his boyfriend? I thought it was a guy named Gary?? Yep, once again proving your non-existent “insider” knowledge.

  • Helen
    Mar 29, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    bumblebee, good to see you. You have been missing a lot of fun here the last couple of days so go check out the rest of the thread.

  • bumblebee
    Mar 29, 2007 at 1:22 pm

    by the way, you might wanna google up the FACT that

    Nicole Kidman was pregnant twice during their marriage and claimed Tom the father. She even had it published that she kept the fetus to prove any time that she had not been unfaithful to him.

    So, either you are lying and desperately holding onto the rumor about Toms sterility or Nicole K is a lying whore, and a stupid one on top of it. She kept the fetus (from another man!) to prove anytime that she had indeed cheated on her husband?? Right! And ppl wonder why he left that unfaithful marriage breaker.

    But thing is, Nicole K is not stupid and her comments should hold more credibility than tabloids. The reason why Tom walked out on her was because she became vocal about NOT loving Scientology by 2000. Guess what, the divorce papers flew into her lap a couple months later and got final in 2001. It´s one thing to NOT love Scientology while married to a member, it´s a whole different piece of baggage to make it public, Scientology has a rule of shunning family mmebers for that and that´s why Nicole was kicked out the Cruise household.

    She even admitted she hadn´t told Tom about her pregnancy until AFTER he filed for divorce because she wasn´t sure about being pregnant then.
    However, it did NOT win him back because Scientology hates critics and Nicole had become one.

    Sorry for bringing Scientology into this but it had to be said.

  • bumblebee
    Mar 29, 2007 at 1:23 pm

    thanks helen, I´m glad to be back! ;-)

  • Anne
    Mar 29, 2007 at 1:35 pm

    Bumblebee, nice to see you again, you have missed a lot. Hope you catch up.

    Nicole also made snide remarks at Tom and claimed to seek a reconciliation while attending a catholic church and saying how she could wear high heeled shoes now and how she was not a naturally monogamous woman (who can actually believe that Nic is a passionate woman? She is such a cold fish.). Frankly, I think she also cheated that is why she kept the foetus to prove that it was Tom’s and though it was, it does not prove that she did not cheat.

    She married Keith to beat Tom to the Altar and look at their marriage now.

  • libraesque
    Mar 29, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

    oh hell , I haven’t laughed this hard since I watched season one of the Chappelle Show

    she kept the fetus huh??

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

    In a decorative Roman Glass Beaker, or…????

  • Helen
    Mar 29, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    I personally think Tom and Nicole divorced because of Scientology and her career but I don’t think anybody cheated.
    I think I read somewhere that Nicole was into Scientology for a while but she started to pull away from the religion and stopped going to the church and become more vocal about not being one, which must have upset Tom being that he is very devoted to the religion and he always said he wanted to be with a Scientology and his whole family are…Once he was asked why they divorced, he said she knows why and she is the mother of my children, and I wish her well…I think its definitely something she did or didn’t do but I don’t think she cheated.

    She herself told vanity fair that I quote the “break up was because of her desire to be seen as a serious actress led to the demise of her marriage. Only now, when she has critical success, has realized what a high price she has had to pay.” I felt I didn’t deserve to be there in my own right, and throughout I wasn’t there as Nicole, I was there as Tom’s wife. I didn’t have to have this huge career. And this makes me sad, but I would probably choose a marriage and an intact family over my career. But I think I had to choose. I think (the marriage) would have come down to it. I suppose it wasn’t meant to be.”

    This is a woman who to this day says she is still in love with him. So I don’t think she cheated. overall I think the reason was because of her choosing career over family and Tom’s religion.

  • bumblebee
    Mar 29, 2007 at 2:34 pm

    Frozen. Ask you “insider” (ooh, i forgot - she doesn´t exist, that´s why you went so nuts about not having us “airheads” tell you more about the Mentor LA). Are you aware how stupid you come across by using up so much space to stay nothing at all?

    By the way, what does your boss say about you NOT working for your money but wasting his time and money to hang around blogs during work hours?

    Go fetch up your copy of In Touch — but you won´t like it, they claim TOM to be the father of Suri. Yep they do! Booo yeah!

  • libraesque
    Mar 29, 2007 at 2:35 pm

    Listen kids, I know I said this yesterday, but my inbox was so flooded this morning with all these hella funny comments I couldn’t resist coming back

    BUT, I cannot, with any dignity stay on this site anymore. I can’t have my good screen name sullied on the same thread as people commenting that someone kept a fetus to prove to the tabloid community that Tom Cruise is not sterile
    I just can’t

  • Helen
    Mar 29, 2007 at 2:39 pm

    What inbox are you talking about? Did you give out your email address to us which I’m not aware of??

  • bumblebee
    Mar 29, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    You gotta go? Well,goodbye, we´ll miss you! ´
    By the way, this statement came from Kidman´s publicist. Truth hurts, eh??

    Outed and outchatted…. so there she goes and waves goodbye. We all know better, so

    see yah tomorrow!

  • libraesque
    Mar 29, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    OOOPSIE!
    I meant Bumbles #6 post.
    I wanna give credit where credit is due

    Adios boba’s

  • Helen
    Mar 29, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    GOOD BYE and we won’t miss you…good riddance to bad rubbish.

  • bumblebee
    Mar 29, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    LOL, but she won´t be missing for long. We all know she can´t live without her

    HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    posts on her bosses costs.

    LOL

  • Helen
    Mar 29, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    I Know. I don’t believe she will stay away for long either and she might even come back as a new visitor with a new name.

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 29, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    Hey Duff Sisters, and you post on whose time???
    okay that’s all I’m gonna say, now I’m really leaving
    hahaha

  • Anne
    Mar 29, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    What the……..?????????

    I go away to get a coffee and I find that you guys have gotten rid of the site joker a.k.a football a.k.a lunatic a.k.a pathetic loser a.k.a stupid idiot? How did you manage that?

    She has run away too early, you know she is the character abusing Tom on most threads. I am glad we taught her a lesson.

    Congs guys. I hope she has learnt not to mess with Tomkat fans!!!!!!

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 29, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    #14, wait a minute, wait just a damn minute, you mean to tell me you guys sit on this site ALL day long, jumping from post to post hitting the Refresh button?????

    sweet jesus, you MUST be kidding!!!

    hahahahahahaha

    I’m gonna help you out here. See the little box under Submit Comment????
    you check that and the comments go to your Inbox.

    Hey Anne, that “I went away for coffee for a minute” thing was cute, but when you post at 1:31, and “Helen” posts at 1:33, saying “thanks Anne!!” to something you’ve just posted, it’s kind of a DEAD GIVEAWAY that your the same person.

    I’m glad you’re under the impression that you’ve “learnt” me a lesson here though

    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    really, I sware, I haven’t laughed this hard in one day…..thanks kids

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 29, 2007 at 4:42 pm

    #11, you are making SUCH a jackass of yourself.
    I hate to break it to ya sweetie, but you can’t bash people for reading the rags, saying everything in them is rubbish, and then come back all giddy and say “SEE SEE, In Touch says it’s HIS baby, ha-ha!”

    this is just sad

  • Anne
    Mar 29, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    How predictable,she is back!

    I am not sure if someone saw the over of US weekly this week she would still be supporting her favourite magazines. Lets wait!

  • Anne
    Mar 29, 2007 at 5:52 pm

    could someone please go respond to the issues raised about Suri’s age? My bet is she is running back to whoever employs her asking

    ‘Ihave been outed boss what can I do?’ Ha ha ha!

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 29, 2007 at 6:13 pm

    “outed”
    ????????????????????
    y’all know I’m gay, I told you weeks ago.

    She’s 15 months.
    I know you guys want the exact date so you can send a prezzy, but Meghann just called, she said you’re scary stalkers and I shouldn’t tell you

    sorry!!!

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 29, 2007 at 6:39 pm

    #15, I hate to break it to ya, but celebrity reps are paid big bucks to lie…….you’re not really that naive….are you? I mean TC’s rep said he’s NEVER tried to coax someone into joining $cientology, and yet he puts up tents on his movie locations for the extras and crew offering “free” massages….as long as they take the intro course!!!!

    what a douche, he’s on the same level as a used car salesman

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:16 am

    I think a used car salesman who gets paid in millions is MUCH better than a Hate Campaigner.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 7:02 am

    Libraesque, quit avoiding the subject, your miserable attempt at humour has also failed. We know Suri’s birthday, you allege she is 15 months so you know another date from what we know.

    You know what, I know outing you as a fraud not as a fag is fun but your stupidity makes it such tiring and a challenging task, if Suri is 15 months, then she was born in December, which is which? December or January? Make up your stupid mind.

    I think am better off ignoring losers like you. At least I made my point clear that if you have any stupid hare-brained conspiracy theories, be ready to back them up with hard facts and, please, did you ever learn any math in school? Did you go to school for that matter?

    This is no longer funny, it is sad.

    *back to ignoring losers*.

  • Carla
    Mar 30, 2007 at 7:09 am

    LIBRAESQUE: I truly love your posts and I’ve been following your information. It’s correct and right on target. That weird looking baby is NOT his, and she is over 15 months old. She was kept from the photogs for so long because she is not a photogenic baby, and becuase they had to hide the fact that she is three months older than what age she is portrayed to be.

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 8:50 am

    Well, carla you and Libraeque already disagree. Because she claims Suri is 15 months old now you’re claiming she is OVER 15 months old and saying at the same time she is 3 months older than what age she is portrayed to be???? What is with this people can they not add or something? If you think Suri is older by three months she is 11 months now so that will make her 14 months old. Hello?? I think we’re dealing with 12 year olds here. All these losers are contradicting each other and they pretend to agree.

    Libraloser and the rest of losers here do you really believe we actually buying this? We know you guys know that Suri is all Tom’s but you’ve sense of humor and are very entertaining and that is the reason we’ve been play along with you but now you guys are not fun anymore….

  • Carla
    Mar 30, 2007 at 10:24 am

    It doesn’t matter what you Helen, or anyone else thinks. It would have ruined Katie’s puritanical image to be knocked-up before she meets the “man of her dreams”. Actually, she’s finding out that he’s a nightmare, but that’s besides the point. So, virgin Katie is already preggos by who knows, and Tommy boy finds the perfect match. SHe pretends he’s the father, and he pretends to be able to father a child and all is well. The weird looking baby has been walking since their shortened honeymoon, and is now running unassisted, one month before turning it’s proverbial 12th month birthday. Tsk, Tsk. Human babies do not start to walk at 8 months old.

  • Carla
    Mar 30, 2007 at 10:36 am

    And what’s this about the two weird parents’ spending money for a “baby boys” room, when Katie is not pregnant,according to Helen? Does that mean that they are going to go shopping for a male baby? And who’s going to be impregnated this time? Are they going to have to adopt this time, because Katie is not knocked-up by someone else? Oh, they can adopt a baby, and since she is so well versed at faking a pregnancy, especially during her last three months, I’m sure she can do that again.

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 10:50 am

    Carla, these dingbats aren’t going to hear you. I’ve already had the amusing argument with them over the fact that when they landed from their honeymoon, and didn’t know the paps would be there, (apparently they changed their plans 5 times to avoid being seen)
    Suri was photographed with scuffed hard sole shoes on, and pushing her mom away, like she was trying to get down and walk, not quite normal behavior for a 7 month old
    Also in the recent video Katie looks like she’s trying to hold her back, not “guide” her along and if you notice, the kid steps up onto the steps with no problem, like she’s been walking up stairs for quite awhile. Actions of a 10 month old who’s just learning to walk?
    yea, no.

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 10:59 am

    So Libraloser you’re back. That was quick….and now you seem to have found yourself a replacement for Mrs G. or the other losers I guess your boss is not happy with you since you haven’t turned anyone against drugs hating Tom Cruise.

    Anyway looks like carla is the dumber in dumb and dumber game you guys are playing. She is talking…tabloid trash about a baby boy?

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 11:16 am

    uh boy.
    Helanne, WHAT on earth are you talking about??? I work in the legal field, my “boss” is a Partner of the firm, and I’m sure in your deluded, feeble way you’re trying to say something, or make some sort of point, but I really don’t know (or CARE!!) what it is

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 11:44 am

    lets see
    Life & Style-Unhappy Katie Wants Out!!
    Star-CAUGHT-Tom uncovers Katies plan to leave him
    InTouch-Katie looks pregnant again,is she trapped for good?
    OK!-Nicole fears for Katie-Leave Tom Now!!

  • Carla
    Mar 30, 2007 at 11:50 am

    Well, Helen. I am only attacking the celebs. Why do you attack me personally, when I have something to say? I do not attack you personally, nor will I. That’s quite immature. You are not the center of attention, nor am I. Let’s keep it that way.

    Commmon Sense dictates that the weird baby has been walking for many months now and is practically an expert at running and walking up and down steps. What interests me is the hairdo they give that weird looking baby. Her stringy hair is always flowing in her eyes and covering her farhead, and she has sideburns. Why don’t they take her floppy bangs and clip them with a cute barrett? Are they hiding a scar or something under those greasy bangs? Even Katie wears her greasy hair back into a ponytail.

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 11:58 am

    Carla, did you see the pictures of Suri at the wedding? She had this big rash looking thing on her forehead, maybe it’s a birthmark?
    Violet A. always has cute little barrettes in her hair, she’s the most adorable kid

  • Carla
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    As far as Drug-free Tom Cruise is concerned, he is as brainwashed as the others whom he has brainwashed into a religion as the guise called Scientology. Ron L Hubbard fantasized a religion, based on a bet with someone, and now there are thousands of followers who believe in alien nation fiction. It is mentioned in one of his books.

    What’s even more disgusting, is that he has his mother, sisters and wife actively involved in a cult.

  • Carla
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    Yes, libraesque, I noticed the large, wine colored, possibly birth mark that appeared on her farhead and red cheeks on her face. I also noticed that she had puffy bags under her eyes, which is quite unusual for a young baby. Maybe they deprive the baby of sleep,too.

  • bumblebee
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    you see, when I told you about the rags I meant EXACTLY this! YOU believe them, I flip through them for entertainment. There lies the difference you doofus.

    And once again you quote the rags that you hate in all things AJ but woship in all things TomKat.

    Carla/libra = she doesn´t have it right. So far, she hasn´t had anything right! Stop embarrassing yourself. She did not even know that Tom is shooting a movie RIGHT NOW!

    What an “insider”.

    Hahahahahaha

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    hey Heleanna, wasn’t it you who said a few weeks ago that the reports that TC was going to tag along with Katie on the set of her new movie was just a bunch of horseshit because he was filming LFL?
    His rep just confirmed he WILL be there, saying The family had always planned on being together

    I wonder if Tommy’s mommy and sisters will go too!!!!

  • bumblebee
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    But won´t be all the time! Pitt was on set!!

    Oh ssssssooooorrry, I brought up the goooooldeeeeen boy. The tabloids ALWAYS lie about HIM but not about TC

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:20 pm

    MY MY MY!!!!From Mrs Guttman, to stells, to B-man, to carla, what will she comeback as next? I wonder.

    You know guys, this is not fun any more. Stupid people are tiring. Bill Gates once remarked that her never fears an intelligent opponent but a stupid one is very dangerous.

    These lowlifes cannot even work out that that if Suri is older by three months, then she is 14 months meaning she was concieved in May and Katie was with Tom then.The beauty about this is that people these days no longer believe this trash and some are even angry that the press takes us for granted and thinks every one is stupid.

    *Back to ignoring stupid illiterates*

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    Am more convinced than ever that these douche bags are being employed by some one to make these ill thought attempte to slag TC. But like alwys, their campaigns are not succeeding at all. Wherever Tom goes, he is greeted by adoring fans and this really irks his haters to the point of suicide.

    I can predict that these two cardavers will commit suicide by the end of this year.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    US WEEKLY HEAD LINE THIS WEEK:

    ANGELINA’S TWISTED DOUBLE LIFE. Saint or Sinner

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity_news?page=3

    Angelina Jolie recently announced, to much fanfare, that she would be a stay-at-home mom. “I will stay at home to help Pax adjust to his new life,” Jolie told the Ho Chi Minh City Law newspaper on March 16. “I have four children and caring for them is the most important thing for the moment.”

    So it came as a surprise four days later when Variety reported that the Oscar winner had signed up to play an assassin in Wanted, which is set to begin shooting in April in Prague.

    Even more bewildering was Jolie, 31, showing up in Chicago on March 23 for screen tests on Wanted.

    The fact that Jolie was anywhere but at home with her family was odd. Just eight days earlier, the actress had picked up her newly adopted son, Pax, from a Vietnam orphanage.

    But, despite what she told the Vietnamese newspaper, the mother-of-four does not appear to be slowing down any time soon. She’s also slated to star in Atlas Shrugged and The Changeling, which is preparing a fall start.

    “That does seem like a heavy workload for someone with a large family,” Christine Adamec, author of Is Adoption for You?, tells Us.

    Adds L.A.-area early-development psychologist Marcy Axness: “Children thrive on predictability, continuity, security and rhythm in their daily life.”

    That’s not the only about-face Jolie has made recently. The day Jolie picked up Pax at the orphanage, where paparazzi swarmed, she said, “Photographs make him upset.I’m sorry for bringing this into his life.”

    And yet, just days after picking up Pax, Jolie staged photos of herself, Zahara, Maddox and Pax and sold them to the U.K.’s Hello! magazine and People magazine.

    Why the change of heart on the photography issue? Why can’t Angelina settle down? Is she confusing Pax? Will Brad and Angie’s relationship last? For more details on Angelina’s strange behavior since the latest adoption, pick up the new issue of Us Weekly, on newsstands this week.

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:29 pm

    Do these people know this is a fan site? We’re not playing in your little dumb and dumber games any more. So unless you’ve something interesting to say then I’m ignoring the losers. When I thought a person can’t get any more stupider than Libraloser there comes the next one. Carla are you American by any chance?

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    I definitely picking up this copy of US weekly. Ha ha ha ha!!!!!!! What is good for the goose……………….

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    Since I started coming here there has been at least one person with a different name coming here to support Libraloser and every day its a different name. Weird hu?

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:42 pm

    libraloser, I am not suprised Tom will be travelling with his wife and kids but I doubted that he will be on her movie set every day, since he is a busy person with movies and studio to run. And I remember saying that Katie herself was on the set of M:I 3 so what is the big deal.
    I also remember Nicole Kidman saying the secret of their 10 years marrage was that they only spent a few days apart and always traveled together.

    I’ve a question for you libraloser…How did you know Tom’s rep confirmed that he will be travelling with Katie? I’m a fan and I don’t even know that!! I can believe you are googling this guy to death. What a sad life you must lead.

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    OH HELANNE
    your not actually saying I have a sad life when, wasn’t it YOU who listed how many times and where KH went for coffee etc…….in the month of Jan.

    hahahahahahahahahahaha

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    NOoooooooo it wasn’t me actually it was Kelly May at babyrazzi. Even if it was me I’m proud to admit I LIKE this family and I do follow up on them unlike you who hates them. And I get lots and lost of time to check their fans site at work and home too.

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    Anne, did you read about Tom’s stalker?

    http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=5e34405c-e488-4281-a2e2-976391a7f0bc
    Tom is so nice…his people even gave her free tickets before but that was before they found out that she was a stalker.

    here a quote from the article.

    ….According to Leatherman, a Cruise flack was helpful to her cause, giving her tickets worth more $200, she said, for a “personal” visit with the Mission: Impossible actor.

    But as it apparently turned out, the tickets didn’t come with front-door privileges.

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    god, he’s gotta give away his movie tickets now????

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:15 pm

    why would kelly may be posting in Portuguese? Her English on BR is perfect

    you’re whacked Sybil, get help

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    What are you talking about???? Please try to make sense. I SAID Kelly May at babyrazzi!! What is this got to do with posting in Portuguese??

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    don’t you remember Kally may showed you all the pictures of Katie out in Dec and Jan at babyrazzi? And please answer my question when did Tom’s rep confirmed?

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    Hello again,

    I told my boss about how mean you all are to each other and she didn’t believe me. So here we are.

    I am no other poster than Mrs. Guttman. Various posters continue to accuse other posters with different opinions of being the same person. You also say this can be proven through IP addresses. Please do so then. I am only me and no one else.

    P.S. to libraesque… my friend who sent me the link to this site is flying to L.A. in a couple of weeks. Any pointers about places not to be missed?

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    Mrs. Guttman if you think we are very rude and mean then you should visit other websites like Perez Hilton, JJ and Us weekly.

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:41 pm

    Helen, I thought you were answering my question to Anne (aka you) about being able to post in fluent Portuguese, which clearly indicates she)you) are now posting under yet ANOTHER name in another language. I thought you came back and said it wasn’t you it was kelly may.
    sorry about the confusion.

    Mrs G, I left L.A in 2000 so I can’t really help you out with places to go, although there’s always cool stuff going on at the Hollywood Bowl, I know for sure that’s still there!!!!

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    I have been to Perez Hilton. The people who post there are mean about the stars and Perez. In addition, they are over the top silly. They do not personally attack each other, the way you do here. The postings here are quite intense. I have not been to JJ (what is that site) and Us weekly sounds boring. Besides I really don’t have a whole lot of free time. I did get a tad hooked while lying around with my bum leg. Now it’s a rainy Friday and the office is slow so…

    As I said a few days back about you all being harsh with each other…. It works for you and I will leave you to it. I will check back to see if libraesque sends pointers for my L.A. bound pal. I wish I were bound for the west coast. Austin hasn’t seen sun in a week!

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    Hello? I called you sad, read #51 then I was replying your question #52. Are you confused? And for the last Tim I’m not Anne and if you’ve read our post properly you’ll realise that but not surprised you brain ain’t working.

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    ooooooohhhh, careful there einstein “you brain ain’t working” isn’t a convincing statement that yours is

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:50 pm

    Mrs. G, I can tell her where NOT to go………
    driving on the 405 fwy

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:50 pm

    Libraloser, you’ve lost it now and lost me too………..very confusing.

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    Oops, sorry libraesque. I guess I thought you were still in L.A.

    I just went the Hollywood Bowl web site and it looks like their season starts in May. Oh, well. I will pass along the information. Thanks.

    I guess I will check back from time to time and see if anyone is accused of being me. I guess I have found a new guilty pleasure. Have fun everyone… but I really do encourage trying to be a bit kinder. It takes less energy to be nice. More importantly, it is better for your complexion.

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 30, 2007 at 1:58 pm

    The 405 freeway is bad… got it.

    My friend is a him, but no worries. He did dress as Frieda Kahlo for Halloween a few years back. He looked fantastic!

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 2:06 pm

    Mrs. G, that’s too bad, the Playboy Jazz festival is awesome, and they used to do this thing where they’d play Bugs Bunny cartoons and the orchestra would play the music, it was GREAT
    and the fireworks shows are outstanding, it’s really pretty up there, she could still go to Griffith Park
    She may even see some celebs there!!! They walk they’re dogs etc.

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    oops!
    Is he straight? He could go to West Hollywood. I lived there for 8 years, it’s great but it’s gay gay gay. Lots of great shopping tons of fantastic restaurants, but it’s definitely not for the faint homophobes
    It’s also a big celebrity hang out

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 30, 2007 at 2:20 pm

    I loved the Bugs cartoon of him singing with the opera singer in the Hollywood Bowl. My second favorite behing “Bully for Bugs”. In that one he is a matador in Spain. Fantastic stuff!

    I am not sure if he will want to star gaze as we live in Austin and have our share of the famous here. Not too much paparazzi. Austin is quite laid back. I used to work as a waitress at a 24 hour deli on 6th. I got to wait on quite a few famous folks while they were under the influence of alcohol. Most of them were really nice and fairly good tippers. Best tip from a star… Lou Diamond Phillips (a b-lister, I admit) His table of 6 left me 50%. Nicest guy to wait on … Forrest Whittaker while he was here filming Hope Floats. I didn’t wait on them personally but Denzel Washington and Martin Sheen were both super nice to the wait staff.

    Thanks again… I will pass your pointers along to him.

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 2:23 pm

    THATS THE CARTOON THEY PLAY!!!!
    I love the bull fighter one too….Nincowpoop.

    I worked in entertainment law I could tell you stories that would curl your hair

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    Helen, from today onwards whatever we do, however goaded we ignore thse losers and no breaking the rule. I know I used to enjoy outing them but it has gotten boring and tiring. I see they enjoy each other’s company. Birds of a feather.

    Now about the stalker, I didn’t hear about her. Though I wish I was her. Ha ha ha! I swear I have to meet Tom Cruise one day and talk to him. I saw him at the opening of MI 3 at leister square and I was so excited. I hope he comes to London for LFL when it opens.

    Tm is nice and no one has ever accused him of being unfriendly or rude so am not surprises he di not get a restraining order against his stalker but instead gave her tickets. How ironic.

    *ignoring losers*

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 2:41 pm

    Helen, waht do you think of that Article US weekly about Angelina, I know that rag is a liar but do you think it is true? Which parts do you think are faked?

    I rarely take interest in stars who lost my favour but that Article got me worried about the children.

    Is it also true that she used to shag with her brother, my sister told me this and I felt sick that some one can be like that. I hope she no longer does.

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 30, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    The last one I posted is awaiting moderation…. not sure why… so I will rephrase

    He is not straight. He is bi and, in no way, a faint homophobe.

    I don’t have too many juicy stories but I have seen a few drunk stars poured into cabs. I did get to see the police called to escourt one star out of the bar. I was sent into the bathroom to wake up someone famous. Nothing to racy but fantastic fun when you are a starstruck 20 something. They are memories I will always cherish. (Slight sarcasm on that last sentence.)

    It has been pleasant chatting with you. I should get back to my, oh so tedious, job.

    I may stop in a say hello from time to time. You all keep stirring each others pots… it is very entertaining. My only suggestion… try more wit and less mean.

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Hey Anne, I was just about to go….did you see the post left by Valeria Muccillo. I just google for translation software and posted it for her.

    About Angelina didn’t you see her on TV a while back I think it was on the red carpet at the Oscar…she made out with her brother in front of the media but not sure her sleeping with him though.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:01 pm

    What?????????? She used to make out with her brother in public, tha is so sick. You know I used to looooooooooooooove Brad Pitt a lot, almost as much as Tom but these days, I nolonger feel him as I used to so I am just giving up on him.

    I didn’t know much about Angelina only that she was a wild child. So how the hell does she adopt children?

    Ha she made out with her brother recently? Does Brad know that she is like that? Has he commented anything about it?

    You know I no longer keep tabs on him. It is sad what is happening to him.

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    Yep, she made out with him and everyone saw it. I’m sure its probably on you tube or if you google it its probably all over the internet. I can’t believe you never heard about that. It was a big deal then.

    I never really care for Brad Pitt even before. I just find him really boring and I saw Meet Joe Black and I hated him in that film. I don’t know what people see in him but I guess everyone is different.

    I miss seeing Tomkat and Suri already I hope we’ll see pics of them this weekend.

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:14 pm

    Forgot to say you know that Angelina is a bio right? She had a girl friend after her second marriage I think and there was a program about her on Sky one and that is where I saw her.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    Well, I kinda found him s**y, ofcourse before I discovered he was so p**sywhipped. Actually I keep away from him so I don’t get angry at him. When he got with Angelina I was for them at first because I believed they had done nothing while he was till married. Now am not so sure. Have you seen Shiloh, she is not pretty is she? But then Angelina used not to be pretty before surgery.

    Look at us discussing those two annoyers. I miss Tomkat too. Sometimes I feel guilty because we invade their privacy but Suri is just so cute cute cute!

    Her expressions are so like Tom’s its amazing. Do you think she looks like Tom or Katie? I see Tom Tom Tom!

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    I heard that she got it with both men and women. What happened to her girl friend? Do youthink her relationship with Mr Pitt will last?

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    I think she is all TOM! You know I do believe in karma so I believe Suri looks exactly like him because of all the things he had to put up with from the media. When my brother saw her last week he amazed how much she looks like him and he said only Tom Cruise can come up with his mini me.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    I missed the show on her on Sky, what was it about?

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    I think she is going to be full of life just like her daddy.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:29 pm

    You know I believe in karma too and after every one dismissing those pictures in Vanity fair magazine as photo shopped and the baby Asian, I could not believe it when at the wedding she was so gorgeous and looked so like Tom and eas so cool with the photogs. I remember my friends commenting that, it was typical Tom for everything to go without a bleep for such a big wedding. Look how Liz Hurley’s ended in a fiasco in India!

    She is such a cool little super star even at such a young age she knows that she is famous. I could swear she waved to the crowd!

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    Yeah she has her daddy’s energy and zest for life. Katie should prepare herself for a terror. She seems so strong minded and like she has an independent streak the size of Russia. Lol

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    The show was called Angeline Jolie - Saint Or Sinner? And there were commentary from people who knew her and her ex-girlfriend was on it too and basically it was all about her life and how wild she was, about her charity work, her relationship with her brother, father…and Brad Pitt. Most of the people who were asked including the ex-girlfriend said they won’t last and someone gave their relationship 1 year.

    I think they will probably last unless Brad wakes up.

    Check this out..
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005570461,00.html

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    Anne, why are you having a conversation with yourself?
    I have a prediction. That Anne and Helen will disappear from the board today at the same time

    o.k., y’all are boring me now with all this nonsense.

    Keep talking to yourself there Sybil, at least you’re never lonely!!!!!

    adeus loucos

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    btw, #84, I KNOW FOR SURE that BP is glad you “keep away from him” because he certainly wouldn’t want you “angry at him”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    Is that a true story? Did she say these things on sky? I know the sun paper can some times cok up things. O.K does Brad know about this? I am now starting to feel sorry for him. I know he really wated children badly but was Angelina the best alternative?

    Don’t get me wrong,I don’t think she is a bad person, but she seems to have some horrible genes that I would not want to pass on to my child. Aren’t men like selective when they are choosing the mother of their children?

    I am still shaking my head at that article, it seems recent since the talk about Brad.

    Poor poor!Brad

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:55 pm

    *I think someone is trying to get our attention, noooooo its not working.*

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    Yes she did, the sun was quoting what she said in the program before the program was aired and she also did an interview!! You do know that the owner of the sun paper and Sky is the same guy.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    Helen, personally do you think Angelina should be adopting children? Iam really worried that she may slip back into her old mode and have an affair with Pax, or Maddox. O..M.G or with Zahara and Shiloh!!! I know am getting carried away by my imagination and may be she got help with her disorders and she has reformed.

    You know I heard that she was crazy and had a girl friend but am worried about her adopted kids and Shiloh as well. And Brad too. Suddenly I don’t hate him as much any more. I kind of fell sorry for his ass.

    Do you think she seduced him? I didn’t think Jen and him were cute together but at least she was a sane one. Lol

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    Oh yeah, I think it is Murdoch, too many scandles when her acqured ITV last November. I remember seeing Richard Branson complaining about him. Yeah, that makes sense how they got such a detailed story.

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    Hello all,

    I know I have been dubed a loser but I thought you all might want to comment on this:

    It has been previously stated that this is a fan site. However, it has been brought to my attention that this site, at times, has actually been a satire site. If you go back to posts from long ago there is much fun being made of Mr. Cruise.

    Check here, for instance:
    http://www.tomkatcrazy.com/2006/04/

    Are Helen or Anne perhaps bigger fans than the originator of the site?

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    I know what you mean…I do feel for Brad but I also think he is happy for now and she gave him what he thinks he wants and that is a child. We don’t know what goes on in their lives but from what I’ve seen or read they don’t seem to go together but the main thing is they are happy. I also don’t like Angelina but I don’t want to criticize them because I know how it feels when other people do the same thing to Tom and Katie.

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    It was never a fan or a non-fan site but usually most people here are fans before Libraloser came to the scene and now webmistress is a fan too…to find out all you’ve to do is read her comments on the news.
    *going back to ignoring losers*

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:18 pm

    The mediator’s comments are most often rational and honest and not over the top fan-ish.

    But you did state previously that this site was a fan site… no? I am sure you did but I may be mistaken.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    *Ignoring losers*

    Do you think Brad is happy? I can see he loves Shiloh a lot and he seems to love the other kids but he does not exactly look like a man dying of love or basking in happiness. The media hounding does not ocourse help.

    I do not give a damn about what people say about Tom Cruise apart from if it is untrue, unfair or malicious. That is why I liked this site even though it was satirical about Tomkat in the beginning.

    Actually I laugh at most funny Tomkat jokes but if they are underlined with malice and are hurt ful.

    For Brangelina, I much don’t care apart from I never seem to hear any more positive things about Angelina am worried it will spill over to her kids and they are innocent.

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    Mrs. G, like I said before we are very warm to people who are rational and even critics but its just very unacceptable for someone to come here just to spread their hate and go on about the non stop ridicules rumours and conspiracy theory over and over again and sometimes this person never even comments on the topic at hand and try’s to take the whole chat to different discussion to get attention and just for the hell of disturbing people.

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    Mrs. G, they (Anne Helen Leah)definitely WANT this to be a fan site only, but it’s been my experience since I started posting here quite awhile ago that the majority of the people were anti-TC because it comes up on Google as an anti TC site.
    That link you provided was great. I love the article that said the reason they gave for keeping the kid out of sight was for her protection from the media, and low and behold where does she make her FIRST public appearance at “7 months” old?????
    The wedding!!! The biggest media blitz ever

    What a tool

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    I actually think Brad looked a lot happier with Jennifer than he does with Angelina. And he looks very uncomfortable with her when ever they’re in public and you don’t see the love, you never see them smiling any more and even Z their adopted girl never smiles and she aalways looks so piss off. lol

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    I’ve one last thing to say to Libraloser and Mrs.G… Are you guys looking for anti-Tom site? There are lots of them according to Libraloser so why don’t you use those site if that is what you really want and leave us be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    Anne, I just saw John travolta on Jonathan Ross TV show BBC 1…Jonathan asked if he doesn’t mind he wanted to ask him about Scientology and John was like yes sure…and he was really nice about it and of course Tom and Katie came into the question as well but it was very nice conversation.

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    DEAR WEBMISTRESS PLEASE CHANGE THE NAME OF THIS SITE TO BRANGELINA CRAZY

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    Helen, big Friday night plans huh???

    *feeling sorry for the social retards*

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    *My boyfriend is working late so I decided to stay home after all. you moron.*

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    someone on another thread said you’re 12 years old.
    should you have a boyfrined at 12????

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:11 pm

    what thread??? Does a 12 year old work for IT company? Are you just trying to find out about my age? If so you just have to ask!! I’m 25!

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:11 pm

    OMG, i have just missed that, I wanted to watch it and I was waiting for it but I was watching the 40 crazy celebrity moments on channel five. Let me look for it on the internet!

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    you know what I didn’t realize before? You THOUGHT you “outed” me because someone referred to the COS as $cientology??? sorry to break it to ya honey, but EVERYONE does that. You only need to go to any site that bashes $cientology, that’s how I started using the $

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    And I live with him….how old are you?

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:13 pm

    excuse me? I think you’re mixing me up with someone else…

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:15 pm

    I never said anything about $ in Scientology and I wouldn’t know you use that because I rarely pay attention to what you say.

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:16 pm

    wow, a big night of celeb-o-mania for the Duff sister.
    I never asked your age because I just don’t care. You could say you’re any age, but I’m still going to think you’re a teenager that believes Nicole Kidman has a fetus in a decorative jar on her mantle, and that TC is straight

    hahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahaha

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:16 pm

    Please please Helen can we ignore those attention seekers. They are annoying after some time.

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:18 pm

    I guess Anne has left the building so I’ll call it a day.

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:18 pm

    Oh you’re back.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:19 pm

    She sounds drunk anyway when she mentions her age and syas she did not say anything about it in the next post and then accuses you of that foetus story which was Bumble bees. Loser is psycho and desperate, I SAY IGNORE HER!

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:19 pm

    helen, it’s completely apparent you don’t pay attention to me.
    you didn’t think that posting *ignoring losers* 752 times was all for not did you???
    we get it you’re, like, TOTALLY ignoring me fer sure

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:19 pm

    *Ok Ignoring losers too*

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    Yeah helen, am back. What did Travolta say about Tom and Katie. I am so sad I missed it.

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:21 pm

    Anne, if you get a chance watch the show John was very nice and funny too.

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    can you believe it I only just saw your comment #111, I thought you had left. I must have missed it because of you know who.

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:24 pm

    Travolta said that he’s SO ashamed that he failed as the leader of the Homosexuality Clearing Sect of the CO$, and how humiliated he was when they asked him to step down, after that photo came out of him tonguing that pilot. He also said that he was impressed at how Cruise was able to have such a savvy legal team to keep his homosexuality under wraps

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:26 pm

    Helen, don’t try to cover up the fact that you forgot you logged on as Anne

    this is kind of like a game of ping pong!!

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:26 pm

    I am trying to find it on the internet but am failing miserably.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    May be I will find it on youtube since there are some videos there. Let me keep my fingers crossed.

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    Jonathan asked him about Tom and Katie’s silent birth and if he and his wife followed that method…and John explained that it was all about the mother and the baby and its not the mother who have to be silent and its not about the scream but she will not say words that might be recorded in the babies mind later in live..and people around her the doctor and everyone has to be quiet.
    I think I’m not explaining it right so if you get a chance watch it.
    I got the impression that its completely different from what the media reported.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    Good night dear. It is late and I will go take a shower now. Later.

    Lets keep our fingers crossed for some Suri picutres this weekend, though I don’t know whether we will get any. Here is to hoping.

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    Anne, I think there might be a repeat tomorrow so check the TV guide.

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Ok…goodnight. fingers crossed.

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:34 pm

    Thanks Helen, ofocurse it is different. The media like to paint everything as bizarre and wierd. Like changing Katie’s name to Kate. Did you notice that Tom called her Katie in the Mentor L.A video?

  • helen
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    I know….we had that discussion at Katieholmes.com/forum. And that is not the first time.

  • LIBRAESQUE
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    I have a GREAT idea, since you both coincidentally live in London, why don’t you exchange e-mail addresses and go for a beer. Then you can chit chat about your love for TC in private, then maybe you can have a mutual masterbation session while watching one of his movies, and after you can smoke a ciggie, or should I say FAG, and talk about how much you hate AJ
    doesn’t that sound FUN, and hey you’re both free tonight!!!!

  • Anne
    Mar 30, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    *IGNORING LOSERS* Off to make love.Lol

  • libraesque
    Mar 30, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    So let me get this straight, Helen is waiting for her live in boyfriend to get home, and Anne is now, at 1:00 a.m. London time logging off tomkat to go make love to someone somewhere
    huh
    Anne if you had the opportunity to be shagging someone all night I’m not quite sure why you were on TKC……

  • cc
    Mar 30, 2007 at 7:07 pm

    I thought this site called tomkat crazy not branglelina. I don’t understand why people bring them here and start their usual lame arguments.

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 30, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    My gracious,

    Quite a lot of back and forth went on while I was out on the town. $2 pints at the Dog and Duck Pub. If you are ever in Austin….

    Sadly, with all the back and forth my question was ingnored. So I will have to go find the quote….
    ———–
    #35 on the Family of WWII Hero Pissed Off Cruise To Play Him… thread

    Helen Says:
    March 28th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
    I’m very suspicious of people who visit fan site of celebrities they don’t like.
    ————

    You did call it a fan site.

    I am still a bit sad that Helen and Anne view me as a loser and possibly the enemy as I have had made no unkind remarks to or about them or about Mr. Cruise.

    Also, I am confussed as to the point of writing “ignoring losers”. It seems odd but I suppose it is a tad like putting your fingers in your ears and saying “la, la, la, la, la”.

    In any case I shared the loser story with my friends over beers tonight and they got a kick out of it.

    I picked up a gossip magazine in the checkout line at the grocery tonight. I feel a new kinship to Mr. Cruise since I have met (all be it, electronically) some of his biggest fans this week.

    An un-named source (you can never trust those) claims they (Mr. Cruise and Ms. Holmes) were having “a heated discussion” at their son’s basketball game. There was also a poll in which 78% of those asked think Scientology will break up the Cruise/Holmes marriage.

    Those gossip magazines are a hoot. Do the “reporters” sit around a table and pick one of themselves to be the “un-named source” that week? They are such trashy fun.

    One last question…

    Wasn’t Ms. Holmes quoted as saying she was a traditional girl and would change her name to Kate Cruise after she married?

    I remember this because my mom and giggled at the “traditional girl” line as she was 8 months pregnant and unmarried at the time. I don’t think there is anything wrong with being unmarried and pregnant but it is not what is customarily thought of as “traditional”.

    Have a good weekend all. I’ll check back sometime to see if my queries were answered.

    Off to see Buttercup at the Cactus Cafe.

  • Leora
    Mar 31, 2007 at 4:22 am

    Hey guys,
    Try to remember to be polite to each other and if you are going to insult someone don’t use foul language. Lots of your comments are getting sent to my spam filters because of certain words and I don’t want you to wonder where your comments are going.

    Keep commenting and coming back! :)

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 31, 2007 at 7:07 am

    My sentiments exactly. Hasn’t this been my primary message since the beginning?

  • Anne
    Mar 31, 2007 at 7:49 am

    *ignoring losers* not you leora

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 31, 2007 at 7:55 am

    But Anne,
    Leora just asked you to be polite. Was your last comment quite necessary?

    I would never call anyone a loser or ignore them. Ignoring those you disagree with never solved anything.

  • Leah
    Mar 31, 2007 at 12:40 pm

    *suspends ignoring losers’ rule*

    Mrs Guttman, I explained my criteria for ignoring people or their posters. If someone behaves like they are 4 years old and their primary objective in life is to trash and spew hate on Tom and Katie even without hearing the other side,then I really have nothing to say to them and ignoring them is the best way to enjoy the site otherwise I would have quit like many have done.

    How do you not ignore a character who says Suri is 15 months but was born in January? Moreover we saw Katie atleast twice or thrice a week in Jan? Tha Suri was concieved in Late April but is not Tom’s when Tom was with Katie at the time? What do you respond to such stupidity? I think ignoring such people is the best answer.

    Satire and humour are the reasons why I came to this site. I enjoyed webmistess’ digs at Tomkat because they were borne out of humour and not hate. I do not think Tom and Katie are gods, far from that but I do not have to put up with unfair hatred that does not benefit me at all since am not about to stop being a fan of Tom Cruise.

    I believe the purpose of being a fan is for fun so if am not having fun out of a post, I ignore it and that is my prerogative.

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Mar 31, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    All this is well and good, but it does not change the fact the name calling is silly and hateful. Hate is what you claim to be opposed to. Answering hate with hate has never worked.

    Maybe you are correct about all you believe in terms of your favorite stars and maybe you are wrong. There is no way for anyone to know for sure. So perhaps everyone should lighten up just a bit about Mr. Cruise and his life.

    Have a bit of fun and don’t be so serious. But fun can remain polite.

  • Anne
    Mar 31, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    Mrs Guttman, I cannot add much to what Leah has said. Again if you had been on this site for longer, you would uderstand where we are coming from to insult someone like Libraesque. She also went to Babyrazzi.com and was a nuisance, even there people resorted to either insulting or ignoring her.

    Like Leah, I have enjoyed the humour and sarcasm on the site and hopefully if you stop bringing up scientology amd telling us unoriginal stories about Tom’s se*uality and broken marriage, we will get on fine.

    I won’t lie, I love Tom and I enjoy everything Tomkat, from PDAs to the soccer games. I also laugh at them at times. I would understand if they annoy you, they would annoy me if I wasn’t their fan. What I can’t stand is bigotry and hatred and the desire to ruin a career Tom has made for the last almost 30 years.

    Lets see how far we go with this ‘truce’.

  • helen
    Mar 31, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    Truce sounds good to me as long as we stay at the topic at hand.

  • Carla
    Mar 31, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    I see that everyone is still at it again. I’m still not going to make any personal attacks on anyone, because that’s stupid. I think the way I want to think, and the Londoners can think the way they want. In America, we do have freedom of speech and we do respect others for their different opinions. With that said, Tom Cruise is gay who shoots blanks from having mumps in is early teens, who found a beard, and hides behind someone else’s weird-looking kid. ANd I admire LIBRAESQUE for standing up to an individuals’ beliefs.

  • Anne
    Mar 31, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    See what I mean????????

  • Carla
    Mar 31, 2007 at 8:38 pm

    No, I don’t see what you mean. What do you mean, Anne?

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Apr 1, 2007 at 12:07 am

    Not bring up Scientology? Why shouldn’t we discuss Scientology? It is a big part of Mr. Cruise’s life.

  • Carla
    Apr 1, 2007 at 4:41 am

    Beam him up, Scotty.

  • helen
    Apr 1, 2007 at 4:43 am

    *back to ignoring losers!!*

  • bumblebee
    Apr 1, 2007 at 6:55 am

    If Tom shoots blanks, why did NICOLE have to get fertility treatment NOW, with her NEW husband, and why did she get pregnant with TOMS child though miscarried (he delivered dough, but she didn´t bake the bun)??

    If she wasn´t preggers with TOMS child, why are the KIDMAN defenders mad at HIM for leaving his cheating wife???

  • bumblebee
    Apr 1, 2007 at 7:12 am

    *Suspending “offending” behavior*

    We don´t talk Scientology because we DON`T care discussing it on here!

    But Helen, Leah, Anne: please take it from me as a fellow fan, Scientology is NOT a religion but an organization that´s controlling its members and force them to shun own family members for dare leaving. Even John Travolta has warned people off it. Hugh Jackman said he asked him about it and John told him he doesn´t need it. He can´t leave beacuse they blackmail him, that´s a known fact. Same for Tom Cruise. That´s all I´m gonna say about this. Please do not defend a dangerous cult just to make a point about loving TomKat.

    The Xenu story (who is, by the way, not their god but an enemey to them) is the least of their problems.

    Tom is a great actor and Katie showed potential in PIECES OF APIRL and GO. Suri is a cute little girl and even if she might not be Tom´s child by bloodline, I am not gonna slam a baby just because I disagree with actions of her father or said-to-be father.

    The reason why I for one start attacking Libraesque is because she treats all tabloids claims and rumors about TomKat as fact to believe at face value.
    While at the same time, she came after me (and others) for citing tabloids in regards to Brad and Angelina, calling us names for taking tabloids as actual sources, then doing the same when she “proves” her point regarding Tom. A bit on the hypocritical site.

    I would even admit that she made some good points to me, but by acting all arrogant about it and not accepting anything else than her own opinon, not even considering it, doesn´t win her any friends. We bring up tabloid stories about those she defends to be “better than Tom and Katie” to give back to her. She´s not the only one who gets to choose which is true and which is not. So far, none of her “facts” have actually had any back-up so far.

    Thanks for reading.

  • helen
    Apr 1, 2007 at 7:51 am

    bumblebee, I’m not trying to defend Scientology but I believe its a free world and everyone is entitle to believe in anything they want including an organization and I’m not going to criticize them for it.

    One question when did Hugh Jackman said that? If the religion is as controlling and dangerous as some of you are saying I don’t think John Travolta will be going around telling people you don’t need it when in fact its a well know fact that celebrities do recruit for the cult including Tom Cruise and John Travolta. I also saw an interview of John this weekend and he doesn’t sound like a guy who wants to leave…if that was the case he would have chosen not to speak about it but his face actually lighted up when asked about it and made it sound very interesting…maybe they are asked to do that but never heard that he wanted to leave or spoke negativity about it.

  • helen
    Apr 1, 2007 at 7:55 am

    Sorry in the last statement I meant negatively.

  • bumblebee
    Apr 1, 2007 at 8:38 am

    Helen,

    you can go here:

    http://alley.ethercat.com/door/form.html

    to hear it from ex members. They don´t bash Tom, it´s a site where members who have left tell their stories about Scientology and how their experience was with it. Read them and make up your own mind.

  • bumblebee
    Apr 1, 2007 at 8:46 am

    I doubt he lighted up about Scientology. I think he agrees with the silent birth (no words spoken) and some of Scientology´s good tenets. If they wouldn´t have them, nobody would join in the first place. It´s the people at the top who are problematic. I guess that´s true with all religions though. At least Scientologists don´t go around and commit terror attacks.

  • helen
    Apr 1, 2007 at 9:01 am

    I know about that site and I’ve read some of it…thank you bumblebee.

  • bumblebee
    Apr 1, 2007 at 9:04 am

    However, this doesn´t stop me from being a fan of Tom Cruise. I chose him for his work, not his belief. I got favorites of all kind of religions. I just have a beef with ppl who accuse fans of adopting everything in the life of their favorite actors or other celebs. That´s stupid and get´s tiring as that is the ONLY aspect of Tom that I do not like and this is very well possible for fans, the majority of an actors fanbase doesn´t care about that. No matter which religion, once they start preaching, they get backlash. Even catholics.

    Despite popular belief: it IS possible to separate the actor from the Scientologist Tom Cruise. Tom hasn´t talked about it in almost a year, time to let the harrassing over it go. He was ASKED about it, didn´t force it onto everyone.
    He´s got a right to think the way he thinks about prescription drugs etc. (just like ppl have the right to dislike Scientology) and it has nothing to do with religion only. There are non-Scienos out there who share his opinion, some of which are victims of mistreatment by psychiatry.

    That being said:
    *back to ignore all talks Scientology*

  • Mrs. Guttman
    Apr 1, 2007 at 9:16 am

    Thank you for answering my question, Bumblebee. However, I do disagree with putting limits on what can and can not be discussed.

    Helen, I agree everyone has the right to their own beliefs… but to say no one should criticize those beliefs??? What of no one criticized what Hitler promoted??? I am in no way trying to link the mastermind of genocide to Scientology. I am simply trying to make a bigger point.

    To have the right to free speach is to have the right to critisize.

    Thanks again Bumblebee.

    Also, Could someone comment on the quote of Katie Holmes changing her name to Kate Cruise? Is that how her credit will read in Mad Money?

  • bumblebee
    Apr 1, 2007 at 9:18 am

    sorry, was the wrong link. Here is the right one

    http://alley.ethercat.com/door/index.html

  • bumblebee
    Apr 1, 2007 at 9:20 am

    Mrs Guttman,

    there were rumors around that Katie would change her name but no such thing was ever confirmed so far. In fact, Tom himself has repeatedly referred to her as “KatIE” in the last time. I doubt she´ll change her name and write this off as another “control freak Tom” story until I see evidence to the contrary

  • Anne
    Apr 1, 2007 at 9:25 am

    Hi there bumblebee and Helen,

    Although I agree that liking Tomkat does not mean liking scientology,I cannot stand it when people use it to trash Tom, it is a free world and whatever people chose to believe is their prerogative trapped or not as they chose to join in the first place.

  • helen
    Apr 1, 2007 at 9:28 am

    I totally agree with your comment #161. I think everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want, even if it’s wrong. And we shouldn’t attack or judge someone because of their believe. If Scientology is helping Tom then good for him, as a fan nobody has to agree with that but I respect him as an actor and he seems to be a decent human being so I think people should let him live his life as he see fit. He does not owe us anything.

  • Anne
    Apr 1, 2007 at 9:31 am

    Scientology is not a religion, it is a cult and it is not the first cult, infact, there millions of cults in the US alone today who do bizzare things. Yes sometimes I get the feelings that they exploit Tom and Travolta, like when they called Tom their christ when they knew it would expose him to ridicule and yet he was in no postition to rebutt it.

    Having said that, he is a big boy, he knows what to do if he feels trapped. If he wants he can stop being the self appointed face of the cult. You also have to agree that celebrity members of scientology have a good track record in hollywood. The have the least scandles and most of them are family oriented with a good head on their shoulders.

  • Anne
    Apr 1, 2007 at 9:33 am

    Like allfaiths,I think scientology has its good and bad points. Travolta said just the other day that Anna Nicole would not be dead if she had practiced it and I agreed with him. That does not sound like a trapped man warning people off it does he?I visted that site but I kept wondering, how do we know they are authentic?

    I know, I know, I know it is not th