Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes

79 opinions for Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Skip Mad Money Premiere Party

• jajorge
  Jan 10, 2008 at 4:15 pm

  haha. katie and tom are stalking friends. the friendship is ONE-WAY. none of their ‘friends’ seem to stalk them, or want to celebrate katie’s premiere with them. too busy. haha.

• jajorge
  Jan 10, 2008 at 4:17 pm

  who needs a babysitter, when you’ve got the rest of tom’s family to take care of the kids?? definitely not a kid issue. they simply had no one to party with, so disappeared. i mean, if i had a b/day party and invited all these people who never showed up, i’d leave soon too!

• Battlemama
  Jan 10, 2008 at 4:47 pm

  Wow, that was shocking that Leora posted this!! It’s making me blush.

  I wonder how much that hurt KH not having them there. I wonder if they had something better to do for the night. I am sure it is not a babysitting issue, either.

• New York
  Jan 10, 2008 at 4:48 pm

  I think it appears very clear that Tom has no intention on taking Katie’s career seriously. Not that this movie was anything to get excited about (much more of an embarrassment I would imagine). I think Katie is a beautiful young woman, but I think she is caught up into something very SINISTER. How would any of us handle the onslaught of CONSTANT public ridicule? It would be completely devastating, emotionally, physically, and definitely spiritually. Even when we partner up with really decent people, relationships are difficult. She partnered up with a complete INSANE, VAPID, INTELLECTUAL ZERO. Now her beautiful little girl (not TC’s) is the butt of everybody’s jokes. Suri will never shake that she is the “product” of the sperm of L. Ron Hubbard. Tom is fine living cloistered away from the REAL WORLD, much preferring to hang with his Scientology gun-toting GOONS! This is not a marriage; this is a LIVING NIGHTMARE. Her career is OVER, and I guarantee that Tom could care less. If he cared about her and her feelings, he would have made sure that all of their “friends” (a/k/a glad-handers) were in attendance for Katie’s big night. Instead? He embarrasses her and makes her leave and not attend, which will only create more tension for her amonst her fellow castmates and crew. Extremely tacky. I don’t believe she will ever recover from her association with this COMPLETE FREAK!

• New York
  Jan 10, 2008 at 4:56 pm

  Battlemama, you raise an excellent question. These vapid people think that all these celebrities are their friends. With friends like these, who needs enemies. They’re all glad-handing, trying to associate with the favorite flavor of the month. None of these people genuinely care about one another. It’s about looking good in photos. Think how real people, genuine people form friendships. It takes years of extremely happy moments and years of living through tough times with one another. I wouldn’t trade my friends for the world. People who want nothing from you other than you being you. These people are all so shallow. What a horrible existence. Katie shunned all of her childhood friends and her family, too, for this INSANE WEIRDO. I just wonder what the two of them say to one another when nobody is listening (although, I hear there’s always a Scientology handler in the room at all times). Do they speak intimately with one another? Do they really let the other in? They BARELY KNEW one another when they were declaring their undying love to each other (publicly). BUT WHAT DO THEY SAY PRIVATELY?! No other couple on earth is ridiculed as much and as extensively as these two. There’s a reason for that. TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION WHEN IT COMES TO THE CRUISE CREW.

• Dancer
  Jan 10, 2008 at 5:31 pm

  I read somewhere else that they went to eat at Cut.

• LoneStar
  Jan 10, 2008 at 6:03 pm

  I actually feel sorry for KH. How selfish of TC to not allow HER to see HER own film at HER premiere. He dragged her butt out for his M:I:iii and she had just had the baby (supposedly). He probably wouldn’t let her go pee during his movie unless he wasn’t in the scene!

  But oh, his fat patootie couldn’t wait to go out to eat. She probably sat there sipping water and wishing she could eat, too!

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 10, 2008 at 6:09 pm

  well considering this went down during filming….I don’t think theres any genuine love for tomkat presence…ANYWHERE ( I have a feeling everyone LOVES kh….but alone)

  Producers planned a nice dinner for the cast to get together after the first day of filming, but Tom insisted on coming too and sent a staff member to make sure he and Katie were seated at a separate table. He then asked that some of the invited cast members not come to the dinner, and ended up deciding that Katie should stay home with him!

  Katie’s co-star Ted Danson is also said to be miffed at the circus that surrounds TomKat. He was given a house next to the famous Scientologists and decided instead to stay at a bed and breakfast and then take off to Europe to have a break from all the chaos there.

• LoneStar
  Jan 10, 2008 at 6:28 pm

  Okay, before I look too much like an idiot—did they show the movie at this premiere, or am I clueless as to what a “premiere” entails? I’d hate to waste a good rant…

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 10, 2008 at 6:31 pm

  yes a premiere is an industry related viewing of the film, with a party after

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 10, 2008 at 6:35 pm

  LS, lets not forget he drug her out to his big night after she “ran” that marathon.

  NY, you hit it right on the snout. considering the lightneing speed at which these two got together…there was no basis for a solid foundation.
  Add to that all the ridicule, humiliation, embarassment, controversy re: every aspect of suri and her birth, not to mention the backlash from his oprah and today show stunts….it makes it crystal clear this has GOT to be a business deal, not a marriage.
  Also, changing “religions”, the strife between two families, planning a marriage, having your first child and globe-trotting with the infant constantly….PLEASE! Even the most rock solid, established couple would crack under an 18th of that pressure!
  It’s REALLY REALLY obvious she has no other option but to fulfill her contractual obligations

• New York
  Jan 10, 2008 at 6:43 pm

  The E Entertainment exchange between Jan Karl and Katie Holmes:

  Jan Karl: “Something you talked about before you came here?”
  Katie Holmes: “Um, well, he’s — he is known for, you know, signing for the fans, and they adore him so I’m really — I’m excited. It’s great.”

  KATIE, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY! THIS IS YOUR NIGHT, AND YOU DEFER TO THAT FLIPPING FREAK! YEAH, THEY ADORE TOM, AND IT’S SO TOTALLY GREAT, IT’S AMAZING! GOD, KATIE, GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• New York
  Jan 10, 2008 at 6:46 pm

  Katie also said that Suri was “glorious.” WHAT 29-YEAR-OLD says the word “GLORIOUS”?! It’s like she picks up lingo along the way and thinks it sounds cool, and she just sounds like a complete DOLT. “Dolt” meaning - a dull, stupid person; blockhead. Katie, you have no personality, no nothing. God, RUN IN THE OTHER DIRECTION AS FAST AS YOU CAN. THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU (DEFINITELY NOT WITH YOU).

• LoneStar
  Jan 10, 2008 at 8:10 pm

  Thanks, Lib–I stand by my previous rant.

  NY–What went down in the limo on the way over:

  TC: “Now, we’re only staying for a few minutes, got it? They’re really only here to see me, anyway. Oh, and don’t say anything stupid, see? Love ya, babe.”

  KH: “You’re so amazing!”

• Battlemama
  Jan 10, 2008 at 8:12 pm

  Few thoughts:
  1) It is AMAZING that a year ago things looked really bad for Nicole/Keith and great for TomKat. Now, here we are a year later and even TomKat’s Sciento. friends won’t even go near them and Nicole is on top of the world. Most of this has happened in the last two months and accelerated the past two weeks.

  Wonder how long before Cruise fires Holmes as his wife since she is the bad luck charm.

  2) I think the proverbial crap is about to hit the fan with TomKat and all of their A-list fans are trying to duck for cover to avoid being soiled.

  3) New York: Where is that interview transcript? Is this something new or old?

  4) KH volunteered for all this. There is not much sympathy here, especially because she has sold her baby for the money and glitz. I have no tolerance for people who sell their children this way.

  5) Lonestar: Are you talking about THANK YOU FOR SMOKING? As I said under #4, she volunteered for it. She made these choices. She is not a robot who only responds to programming. She chose that existence for herself and, unfortunately, she did for her baby too.

• Battlemama
  Jan 10, 2008 at 8:14 pm

  I thought TC went to sign autographs while Kh walked the carpet on her own????

• New York
  Jan 10, 2008 at 8:45 pm

  LoneStar, YES! Unfortunately, E didn’t broadcast the ride over to the show, but I’m positive that is what went down in the limo. What planet is Katie on? Truly, what planet?! Every single time she opens her mouth?! NOTHING. Nothing substantive passes those lips. She constantly turns everything on to TC. It was HER night.

  Battlemama, that was the transcript I transcribed from E tonight, verbatim transcript of her exchange with Jan Karl.

  Jan Karl: “Something you talked about before you came here?”
  Katie Holmes: “Um, well, he’s — he is known for, you know, signing for the fans, and they adore him so I’m really — I’m excited. It’s great.”

  Just like her interview with W magazine, NOBODY IS HOME. SHE’S EMPTY UPSTAIRS. I really believe something happened to her in those “missing days” where that FREAK indoctrinated her into his CULT. Her parents have to be MORTIFIED.

• jajorge
  Jan 10, 2008 at 9:11 pm

  yeah, i would believe that scientology and tom sucked everything substantive out of her brain — if only, i could remember katie holmes ever saying anything substantive before. but i can’t.

• LoneStar
  Jan 10, 2008 at 9:41 pm

  Okay, someone slap me. I must be getting soft. I feel sorry for her because she seems to have so much but so little at the same time. She’s infatuated with a loser, she’s beautiful but awkward and can’t walk in heels, she can’t speak one coherent intelligent sentence, she’s not a very good actress, she’s never going to live down the “who’s Suri’s daddy?” thing, she has to live with that COS b.s., and on and on.

  Yes, she sold out, but I’m wondering if she really knew what the heck she was doing. She barely knew TC before she sacrificed everything for him, based on a teenage crush. Did she know how strong the gay rumors are? Did she know that she’d never be able to step foot out of her la-la land without being scrutinized? Did she really say “Tom and I will always be in our honeymoon phase”? (A year later and they don’t even look comfortable together.) She’s in deep and can’t get a divorce if she chooses because her child has been sold to the devil, so to speak. Most of us can make our mistakes right, but dang, she made some doozies.

  I used to be a TC fan years ago, but now I just can’t stand him. I never had much of an opinion about KH before TC, but I guess it pains me to see her try so hard and still come up short. (no pun intended.)

• nguzman
  Jan 10, 2008 at 10:50 pm

  I must also be a softie because I feel for this girl and definitley for little Suri. I am sure they never leave Suri alone with Katie, she is always surrounded by people which most likely are Scientologists. I cannot fathom being in this situation and I say this because ONCE I came very close to being in this position.

  I was dating a nice educated man with a good job, car, house, etc., only we were both from different faiths. I thought about it very, very carefully. Prayed and even asked someone who at the time was my best friend “what should I do, I’m confused.” This friend told me “marry him, even if you get divorced at LEAST you can say you were married.” I never forgot this sad advice.

  I prayed, meditated, and decided it was BEST for me and him to break up. I wrote all this down and hid this paper in a place only I could find. This way if I ever regretted this decision or forgot why I made this decision I could pull out this paper, read it and remember WHY I did this.
  I have NEVER regretted it. Ever!

  And so we make choices in our lives and those choices begin to define our lives whether we like it or not. And there are certain things that are real path makers, who we marry, the father of our children, go to college or not, etc.

  Katie made a choice when she had a baby first, and with that baby walked down the aisle and said “I do” to a Scientologist. That is something I find incrediby hard to imagine. She didn’t get married first and then later have a baby and say “oh no, what did I do.” She had the oppportunity to call everything off but she didn’t.
  And at 29 years of age she is no longer 16 or 18 where she can chalk it up to a mistake of her youth. She is a 29 year old adult. She is pudding in Tom Cruise hand.

• nguzman
  Jan 10, 2008 at 11:00 pm

  And this is a good observation about their friends. Tom Cruise attended Will Smith’s premiere in Hollywood. Tom, Katie, and Suri attended the Spice Girls concertn NOT once but reportedly TWICE. And none of these people were at the Westwood premiere last night.
  Click on the link
  http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/rc_madmoneypremiere.html;_ylt=Aqxfyvsils9dBHOL0p.Y7NNfVXcA

  No A list stars to be found at this premiere. I think people are afraid of them. They don’t want to be associated with them. I think Hollywood is a cold town. They like the flavors of the month, the people who’s movies gross the most at the box office. Example, look at Kathleen Turner, in the 80’s she was a huge box office draw, today she is a has been. That’s the same way Tom Cruise is headed if he keeps bombing at the box office. Even some of the movies he’s produced did not do that well. Example: Ask the Dust with Salma Hayek and Colin Powell.

• nguzman
  Jan 10, 2008 at 11:06 pm

  And these people all know each other. Katie Holmes attended the premiere of Hairspray. She was in Europe and came back to the US and was photographed on the red carpet. Of course Queen Latifah was in that movie and so was John Travolta (a scientologist) but he did not return the favor and attend last night. I wonder if John Travolta and Tom Cruise even get along. I think I read somewhere that they didn’t, but that didn’t stop Katie from attending Hairspray.

• jajorge
  Jan 11, 2008 at 12:03 am

  who knows what their ‘friends’ really think of these two wackos — but i do believe that actions speak louder than words and from their ‘friends’ ‘ actions it would seem that the support and friendship is not reciprocated. and katie and tom can’t argue that friendship for them mean privacy, b/c that’s not the way they seem to handle anything including SURI.

  i know a lot of people think of katie as tom’s victim, but surely the clues to his madness were abundantly evident even before she married (?) him. the strange way he suddenly dumped nicole — it was a real shocker for the whole world, really, and probably for nicole too! the couch-jumping and anti-psychiatry tirades. his overall extravagances including extravagant pda sessions at kids’ soccer games….. it’s not as though katie hadn’t dated anyone relatively normal either, i.e. chris klein, josh hartnett to be able to make a good decision. she obviously chose the easy way to gain more fame, more money… why pity someone who sells their soul? even better, why pity someone who sells their child? love for a child is the ability to put the child’s needs above the parents, and i just see katie as using suri to pump up her own ego and image.

• nguzman
  Jan 11, 2008 at 12:39 am

  I think that maybe she had already legally committed herself to him with some kind of contract or maybe it was Suri. I’ll never forget seeing the interview Princess Diana gave to a British journalist and they asked her if she suspected something going on between Prince Charles and Camila.

  She responded she wanted to back out of the wedding but her sister told her “too late, Duchess (that was her nickname) your picture’s already engraved on the teacups.” She said in the Morton book that she felt like a sacrificial lamb walking down the aisle.

  I remember being very young and getting up at dawn to see this wedding not knowing that seemed so perfect and romantic but that was the LAST thing it really was. Princess Diana was actually trying to back out of this wedding but she didn’t. She went ahead with the charade.

  How many times don’t people go into a marriage with some doubt but plunge ahead because there is a child involved or material interest. And its not always the woman seeking to get married, sometimes its the man pressuring the woman into the marriage.

  I agree that Katie walked into this one with her eyes open but I don’t think she really understood the trade off. She tries to appear young and innocent and probably thinks she knows she really smarter and she thinks she pulling this sweet girl act over everyone, but I really don’t think she understands WHAT she got herself into.

  But as Suri begins to grow up and talk and Tom says “Its time for Suri to start going to Scientology classes and practicing the rituals of this pyscho cult” that is when its going to hit Katie.

  I bet Tom has already challenged Katie with her Catholic faith and he has responded with the Scientology response. He probably told her “E-meters with auditors are like going to confession with your priest, you confess your sins and release the negative sin or feeling and are cleansed. He probably tells her “See the similarilites? And probably Katie goes “Wow, that’s amazing.”

  Of course they are totatlly different acts.

  The reason I say this is because when Will Smith said Christianity, Islam, and Judaism is almost like Scientology I realized Tom Cruise probably told him “Okay, what is it about your religion that you feel is different about Scientology.” You see these people have probably dissected several religions, the main ones being Christianity, Islam, and Judaism and have a response for each one. And a lot of people don’t really understand their faith and are lukewarm in their religion. Not all, but a lot of people. This is why its so important to sit your kids down and ask them questions, explain the faith you practice. And most important, practice what you preach. Kids are like sponges, great obersevers and the real school is in the household. Having a child is such a HUGE responsibility.

• nguzman
  Jan 11, 2008 at 1:01 am

  I predict this weekend there will be a sighting of Katie and Suri. The movie Mad Money opens next week and so they know they have to stir some news, gotta get your picture in the paper, on Entertainment Tonight, Access, the Internet, and all the rags (magazines) to create momentum so that people will go out and watch this movie.

  In Europe they were photograhed at the park, zoo, bakery, walking in Tiergarten Square, on a beach in France, Paris, Sardinia, Italy in the water with Suri screaming, etc.

  In the US, Suri and Katie have been photographed in New York, Washington D.C., Fred Segal store, and the Grove shopping center, basically shopping or walking the streets.
  In the US they have less photo ops than Europe because here their outings look more obvious. In Europe they were living in a hotel. Here they have all the luxuries they need in their mansion. The stylish and hairdressers come to their house and so here they have to be better planned.

  I predict this Friday or weekend we will see Suri and Katie. This way their pictures will make next week’s Thursday magazine deadline. The movie opens next Friday. We’ll see…

• bumblebeej
  Jan 11, 2008 at 1:16 am

  I think perhaps none of the so-called friends were actually *invited* to the premiere. Think about it - if Will Smith, or the Beckhams showed up, then potentially the spotlight could be stolen from Katie… Even though KH and TC are more than happy to steal the spotlight from others at their big dos (who can forget those photos of TC waving from the bleachers at the Spice Girls concert, ugh).

  THen again I also agree that, had the high profile friends been invited, they may well have not shown up. It just makes me sad that from everything i’ve read, it’s all about KH and TC. What about the rest of the cast of the movie, journos?!

  There is an interesting debate about sciento and TC going on here:
  http://www.news.com.au/comments/0,23600,23034025-5007146,00.html

• jajorge
  Jan 11, 2008 at 2:07 am

  i don’t mean to sound like i’m only picking on you, nguzman. i actually agree with you on a lot of things. but the princess diana comparison was not a good one. first of all, tom cruise cannot be compared to heir to the british monarchy. second, diana was 10 years younger than katie holmes when she married. third, diana never ever tried to convey a ‘perfect’ image — she failed nearly all her school subjects, came from a divorced home, and unlike katie holmes, everyone really fell in love with her, her sweetness and genuine desire to do good. when she became princess of wales, she tried to use her celebrity to bring att’n to serious issues and her humanitarianism was well respected. katie holmes: she can’t do anything! diana raised 2 sons, worked tirelessly for so many causes and so many people, and managed to become a fashion icon too on top of all that! i just can’t feel sorry for someone just because they’re a failure in everything, and selfish enough to put her own needs ahead of suri’s. ah, yes, and nobody could blame diana for marrying like an opportunist since she had a pedigree that surpassed the windsors in some ways, with a fat trust account that she didn’t need to become queen!

• LoneStar
  Jan 11, 2008 at 6:53 am

  Nguzman: Yes I remember getting up to watch Princess Diana’s wedding on tv as a kid. She was extremely young and in love and definitely didn’t know what she was getting into. I cried my eyes out when she died, and it surprised me how much I cared about a woman that I didn’t even know. I remember thinking that if I ever did meet her we would have probably sat down on the living room floor to have tea and chat. Now, for a woman in her position to come across as that approachable is quite an accomplishment. I read the Morton book on her (and anything else I could find) and found her to be both enviable and pitiable. That’s kind of how I see KH, minus the whole “sitting on the floor drinking tea” approachability. I see them both as lonely women who find their sole joy in their children. I definitely know that feeling because I was unhappily married for a long time to my older children’s father and divorced because I realized I only had one life to live. As sad as it was when Diana died so young and so tragically, I’m glad that she seemed to be happy at the end of her life.

  As for KH, the naivete that comes from being in love with who you think is the perfect person, thinking you have the perfect life, is what makes this so sad. No, she’s not very bright, but she seems to be in love and now reality is knocking at the door. I also feel for Suri, that beautiful little girl. My daughter (with my new hubby) is two months younger than Suri, and I compare them a lot. I remember thinking how hard it would have been for me to leave her when she was a newborn like KH did to Suri when she went traipsing off to Fashion week in Paris. I simply wouldn’t have done it. I also wouldn’t overexpose my child in the media as the Cruises have, either. I do understand that she’s probably sick of the COS constantly around and just wants some time to herself, but TC seems to want to control every aspect of her life. I doubt very much that she knew how much a part of their lives the COS was going to be. She probably was warned over and over about this cult from family members, friends, etc., but why she thought she could take on TC’s controlling ways and that crazy cult is beyond me. I remember being turned off to a guy that I was really attracted to years ago because he had renounced his Christianity and started studying the Muslim religion. No offense to Muslims, but I knew that a common faith was important to me and that I would never be able to be with him long term because of it. (If he had talked about Scientology, I would have just thought he was plain nuts!)

  Jajorge: Yes, Katie and Diana appear to be much different as far as their need to reach out to others, help the disadvantaged and such. KH is still wrapped up in her glamorous new life, but we don’t know that somewhere down the road she, too, won’t find herself looking for a deeper purpose for her life than just being TC’s trophy wife. Let’s hope that she does.

  Okay, I’m done for now. Rambling again.

• nguzman
  Jan 11, 2008 at 8:00 am

  Lonestar: You hit it right on the nail. You understood exactly what I was trying to get at. I have also read many books on Princess Diana as I found her to be very fascinating but also tragic. Her parent’s divorce really marked her life. I believe she was a wealthy kid who was neglected and that created many insecurities in her life. And I believe that towards the end of her life she finally got her self together emotionally and was headed towards a new peace in her life. She didn’t have the luxury to live that part of her life.

  However, I am not comparing Katie and Princess Diana as far as their purpose in life or Tom Cruise & Prince Charles as concerned. What I was getting at was that Princess Diana actually wanted to get out of that wedding but forged ahead. Today when we see pictures of that wedding we now know what was really going on in her mind as she had publicly spoken on this subject and clearly stated she wanted out of the wedding. Yet that day she managed to plant a smile on her face, look at Prince Charles in a loving way, smile for the camera, etc, because Princess Diana also knew how to manipulate the press. In the beginning of her marriage, she was not raising awareness for land mines, or other charity groups, she was also accused of having anorexia, spending too much on clothes (something she had never done even though she had money but did not have a lot of personal wealth because it is well documented, yes she had a trust fund but she was not the wealthiest woman). When someone passes away that is when one can examine someone’s life and say “this is where her life changed, when her life began to have purpose and this is when (in photographs) she also began to look more confident. I doubt if Princess Diana would have married someone that was not famous like Prince Charles would she had had as much exposure as she did. And she also loved to manipulate the press.

  I think Katie was already committed to Tom Cruise (legally besides just with Suri if that is even his child) that she could not get out of this wedding. This is only my assumption. But I really doubt she understands what she got herself into. I think Nicole Kidman went down the same path but got out of it because Tom Cruise decided he wanted out. She probably was humiliated at the time but that was actually the best thing that could have happened to her.

  Katie’s life has definitely taken a drastic turn by marrying Tom Cruise. And I think that around June/July 2007 a plan was implemented to start marketing her a certain way because Katie and Suri suddenly started wearing designer clothes publicly. She was not a fashion plate before. That’s the thing about being a celebrity, you are photographed, video taped, and today with the Internet people can look you up in mere seconds. You can see it in the many photographs that have been taken of them.

  With Katie and Diana, I know for sure Diana wanted out of this wedding because she has actually been recorded saying this but went ahead. I think Katie probably wanted out but right now that’s not something we will know because right now she is in the “the marriage gets better every day mode.” Fastforward a few years and she might also be confessing what was really going on in her mind. Although I think she will never really reveal a lot of things because she sign a contract to not talk about their life.

• nguzman
  Jan 11, 2008 at 8:12 am

  Lonestar: You hit it right on the nail.

  I did not mean to imply that Katie Holmes and Princess Diana are the same. I meant that Princess Diana tried to back out of her wedding but went ahead. We know this information after the fact. Yet she smiled for the cameras, kissed her husband on the balcony, she was acting.

  I think if Katie wanted to back out of this wedding, we won’t know that for years to come or maybe ever because she signed a confidentiality agreement.

• Vianne
  Jan 11, 2008 at 8:14 am

  I think Katie has whole-heartedly and fist-pumpingly embraced scientolgy. Remember back when Jada Pinkett-Smith came out in support of Katie and Tom in that People article:
  On reports that Holmes is a ‘prisoner’:
  ‘It burns my soul – I see her in the house with Tom; he doesn’t have that on her! It kills me. ‘Tom’s this monster and he’s got her chained up in the basement and he’s forcing Scientology down her throat’ – it’s bulls—. Let me tell you: Kate ain’t no little wimpy kitty cat. It’s not that ballgame. For real.
  I see how protective she is over her family and her husband. She very much carries the idea that people better not [mess] with my family. She gets fired up. When she gets to that mode, it makes me step back. I was like, ‘Okay!’ And Tom looks at me and goes, ‘See? See? Did you see that?’ And I go, “Yeah, I saw that – hell yeah.’ It amazes me. ‘

• Vianne
  Jan 11, 2008 at 8:20 am

  The backlash of the media when Suri was hidden away after she was born, was a boon to the scientologist cause - the people who weren’t scientologists were horrible people only saying negative things about them. The scientology “family” was the only family Katie could truly trust.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 8:21 am

  They skipped the paty because their scieno party friends weren’t there. They don’t party with just any plain folk. “It’s truly amazing.”

• nguzman
  Jan 11, 2008 at 8:22 am

  She is surrounded by Scientologists day and night. It must be exhausting trying to resist them when they try to win you over with and expensive life style. And your own family is living in another state. Good luck!

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 8:26 am

  And their other friends are running away from them and don’t want to be associated with them because of Morton’s book. See? It’s AMAZING how we find out who our friends really are, when we are down and out.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 8:29 am

  I think that Princess Diana was murdered, and I also think that Katie has to be careful as well. They both stepped into a pile of shite. Princess Diana couldn’t get out of it. Katie will learn that she can’t either.

• lwarner
  Jan 11, 2008 at 8:45 am

  I hate to believe that none of their friends were there to support Katie. She seems to be such a generous and thoughtful person. Shame on those so called “friends”. They should have been there with a truck load of cupcakes for her. Why is everyone so quick to bash Tom? She’s lit up like a Christmas tree everytime she’s near him. He doesn’t come across as this cold “I don’t care about your career” type to me. I think the public puts Tom in such a bad light because of his beliefs because they don’t understand them. It’s easier to make Tom the bad guy.

• nguzman
  Jan 11, 2008 at 9:04 am

  Carla: I think Princess Diana was murdered too. I think JFK was murdered by a government (which one I don’t know). I think Marilyn Monroe was murdered.

  I think when people become too great a liability they are permanently silented.

• nguzman
  Jan 11, 2008 at 9:05 am

  and that photographer that reportedly was trying to blackmail Tom Cruise. I think he was also murdered. But all these things are swept under the rug.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 9:22 am

  Yes, yes, and yes. Marilyn Monroe, along with numerous other women who were friends with JFK, were murdered because JFK told them his inner thoughts and feelings about things. I think that JFK jr. also was hit because he suddenly had aspirations of running for the presidency, and they (whoever they may be) were afraid that if he dug long enough, would find out who was connected to his father’s murder. So to get back to your other point, yes, Katie is now in danger for the rest of her life.

• Battlemama
  Jan 11, 2008 at 9:31 am

  There are major differences between Diana and KH:
  1) Diana knew how to walk like a fashion model in the clothes designed for her. KH, well, can we say awkward giraffe.

  2) Diana knew how to stage herself with the press!! Kh and TC, it is too well rehearsed.

  3) Diana didn’t p i m p her sons out into the press. She knew she was partly famous, at first, because of her marriage and producing an heir to the throne, but she made the press sign agreements to stay away from the kids until they were of age. The press still honors that. I think we have all commented on Cruise and Holmes and their use of the media. It is even more ironic that Cruise went after the press at Diana’s funeral. They have him on tape or something chewing the press out for causing her death. What a self-serving ego maniac!!

  4) I am sure Diana shopped, but she didn’t flaunt her wealth the way MS. Holmes does. Diana also used her status to bring about change. The only thing changing about Kh is her age, looks, and popularity.

  5) Diana could put two intelligible sentences together and come across as an intelligent person who really cared about others. Even when told what to say, KH can’t. As far as her being so great on the set, the only thing people can say even now from the movie set, is that KH brought treats once a week. Besides, bragging about your kid as being the best in the world, is a major turn off for everyone.

• smartgurl23
  Jan 11, 2008 at 9:35 am

  My sources close to the couple say they wanted to have a low key dinner

• Battlemama
  Jan 11, 2008 at 9:45 am

  Here is what I found about TC’s opinion of paps and taking celeb photos. I like the part where he calls the press liars because the press said that the stars co-operate with them to take their pic. Ten years later, well, I guess TC likes the cameras following him, KH, and Suri!! I know somewhere there is a clip of Cruise after the funeral lashing out at the media that was there covering the funeral and he accuses them of killing Diana.

  “Celebrity photos can mean big money

  Chasing celebrities has become a big-stakes proposition for many professional cameramen, worth incurring the wrath of those luminaries who want some personal space left them.

  Greg Swift of The Daily Express said a single photograph of Diana could have been worth thousands to tens of thousands of extra issues sold for its buyer.

  “She has always been a main news story for the newspapers of this country,” Swift said. “The whole country, indeed the world, has a deep fascination for everything she does. And she was and will remain one of the most popular figures in the world.”

  According to Globe Magazine spokeswoman Terry Raskyn, celebrities often cooperate with the paparazzi in getting their photos into the tabloids.

  But in an appearance on CNN shortly after the accident, actor Tom Cruise called her statement a “total lie.”

  He also said he and his wife, actress Nicole Kidman, have been harassed by paparazzi in the very tunnel where Sunday’s crash occurred. He said they were “devastated” by the news, and furious at celebrity photographers.

  “They run lights and they chase you and harass you,” Cruise said. “It happens all over the world. And it has certainly gotten worse.”

  “You look at the kind of money that is generated for the newspapers and for these paparazzis — that’s why” they are so persistent, he said.

• Battlemama
  Jan 11, 2008 at 10:01 am

  In terms of conspiracy theories surrounding deaths:

  DIANA: Personally, I think everyone involved made really bad decisions that night, except the security guy with Diana. Dodi’s father had reportedly being calling the press to tell them where Diana and Dodi were that summer (Free PR ala Lynne Spear’s style). Dodi and Diana had a helicopter to use that night in order to leave. They liked the chase with the paps., so they took the car. The security guy tried to tell her to take the helicopter. The driver, who is really to blame, was drunk!!! If you are supposed to be designated driver, stay away from the booze. Oh, and Diana had no seatbelt on. It could have saved her life.

  2) JFK: The records were sealed by the courts on that one until the grandchildren of all involved (Kennedy fam, invetigators, Oswald’s family) are dead. So JFK, JR. would not have been able to get into that one.

  3) JFK, Jr.: Sorry guys, but pilot error. Weather conditions were bad. The experts said even the best pilots would have had trouble with that one. He should not have attempted the landing. In the last twenty years, how many great pilots have crashed small planes in bad weather: Many have!

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 10:59 am

  Regarding JFK: DO you believe it was done by the man in the grassy knoll?

• nguzman
  Jan 11, 2008 at 11:23 am

  No. I think it was a combination of a government, the mafia, and someone. That guy was the scape goat.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 11:25 am

  Battlemama:
  For a person who seems relatively smart, you shock me with your lack of desire to look beyond the smoke and mirrors.

  Diana: She was always an embarrassment to the royal family, but they couldn’t touch her while she was married to Charles. Once she divorced, she was dating an Arab, and pregnant with his baby. SHe also was planning to move to the US in fear of her safety. Despite all of the smoke and mirrors that night, where else to hit a person, but in a tunnel late at night, when no one was around.

  JFK: Ask Prosecutor Garrison, in New Orleans about the facts. I’m not even close to the Kennedy family, yet it’s public knowledge that Oswald and Ruby were seen together at a strip bar, weeks before the assasination. Two prostitutes had Ruby and other CIA agents as their clients, and they told the police a week before the assasination, that Ruby and his pals, planned the killing. Both prostitutes died from drug overdoses.

  JFK Jr.: He was going public, and started the George magazine. Even though it took him 4 tries to pass the bar exam, he finally did, and he had aspirations to first become a senator and then become president. If he ran, he would have run without campaiging. ANyway, even though those records were “locked and sealed”, as president, he could have had them unlocked. His wife was running around and had a couple abortions, their marriage was a farce, and she was an embarrassment to all, and there was talk of drug abuse.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 11:28 am

  Yes, He was a secret agent who was set up.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 11:31 am

  JFK said that he didn’t need to listen to anybody, and owed himself to none. He prevented us from getting into a war with Russia. The government, however wanted a war to stimulate the economy. SO, after JFK was assassinated, LBJ said: elect me and I’ll give you a war; Viet Nam. The rest is history.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 11:35 am

  JFK was probably the only president who actually ran this counrty on his own. He made his own decisions, and was not influenced by anyone. He prevented the US from getting into a war with Russia. After his assassination, LBJ said; elect me and I will give you a war, Viet Nam. The rest is history.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 11:37 am

  After JFK was assassinated, LBJ said: elect me and I will give you a war - Viet Nam.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 11:39 am

  Believe what they want you to believe. But, If you look beyond the smoke and mirrors, you will see that Princess Diana, JFK, and JFK jr were hit.

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 11, 2008 at 12:24 pm

  okay, this is going to seem off topic but I tried to post this yesterday and it wouldn’t…..so here goes.
  Bottom line, this is a business deal between tc & kh
  They hardly knew eachother when all h e l l broke loose with the Today show and the Oprah appearance. Even the most concrete, solid, ESTABLISHED couple could not have withstood everything that’s happened in the last 2 years

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 11, 2008 at 12:29 pm

  the backlash of the today show and oprah is where it started, and it’s consistently gone downhill since. The humiliation, his plummeting popularity, kh changing “religions”, becoming pregnant, adjusting to living with his whole family, planning a wedding, various premieres, globtrotting constantly, tc getting canned from paramount, having her first child, the strife between the families…..lets face it….no one on gods green earth could have weathered an 18th of these storms
  this is a business deal pure and simple…and she is fulfilling her contractual obligations under the WORST circumstances

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 11, 2008 at 12:29 pm

  the backlash of the today show and oprah is where it started, and it’s consistently gone downhill since. The humiliation, his plummeting popularity, kh changing “religions”, becoming pregnant, adjusting to living with his whole family, planning a wedding, various premieres, globtrotting constantly, tc getting canned from paramount, having her first child, the strife between the families…..lets face it….no one on g o d s green earth could have weathered an 18th of these storms
  this is a business deal pure and simple…and she is fulfilling her contractual obligations under the WORST circumstances

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 11, 2008 at 12:30 pm

  adjusting to living with his whole family, planning a wedding, various premieres, globtrotting constantly, tc getting canned from paramount, having her first child, the strife between the families…..lets face it….

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 11, 2008 at 12:31 pm

  no one on g^o^d^s green earth could have weathered an 18th of these storms
  this is a business deal pure and simple…and she is fulfilling her contractual obligations under the WORST circumstances

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 11, 2008 at 12:32 pm

  no one in the world could have weathered an 18th of these storms
  this is a business deal pure and simple…and she is fulfilling her contractual obligations under the WORST circumstances

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 11, 2008 at 12:33 pm

  no one could have weathered even a portion of these storms
  it’s a business deal pure and simple

• lwarner
  Jan 11, 2008 at 1:04 pm

  i just don’t think it’s a business deal. what could she possibly have to bring to the table that he didn’t already have? not putting her down by any means. people put her down so much like she’s ignorant. she met him at a time in her life, like so many late 20’s girls, when she craved marriage and children. she loved him when she was a kid just as i loved john taylor of duran duran when i was a kid. i can totally see how she jumped on that train. she got the guy that no one ever gets. i hope their life is rainbows and butterflies. they are always smiling and his hand is always placed somewhere on her. i’m sure that’s very comforting to her. at least they seem to notice one another is there.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 1:29 pm

  Wasn’t she in love with TOm Hanks? Where did TOm Cruise come into the picture? I guess she lied again.

• Battlemama
  Jan 11, 2008 at 1:34 pm

  Carla: I don’t put so much into ‘conspiracies’ for the sake of conspiracies. I also don’t read much about them either. I do know other things. And scandal is nothing new in the Kennedy family, so doing away with JR. for that reason is silly.

  I do think there is more to Kennedy than meets the eye, but Diana, I need hard evidence. Also the VietNam thing, Kennedy was increasing the amount of military advisors from the U.S. What do you think our naval ships were doing in the Gulf of Tonkin, pleasure cruising?

• Battlemama
  Jan 11, 2008 at 1:36 pm

  Carla: What about the Cuban invasion–it wasn’t for vacation property? So, Kennedy, for being the peaceful guy you portray him, sure didn’t act it in the three short years he was there.

• Battlemama
  Jan 11, 2008 at 1:37 pm

  Tom Hanks was married and has a conservative rep.

  Tom Cruise: Think JERRY MAGUIRE: Show me the money!!!!

• Battlemama
  Jan 11, 2008 at 1:43 pm

  Libra: Here is two alternatives to why she stays:

  1) The money and the shopping.

  2) She really does love and she is standing by her man!!

  I am leaning towards the latter. IF you look at Brad and Angie in public, they act like they are love…leaning in towards each other, letting each other have the spotlight, etc.
  KH and TC: Well, use the Diana and Charles example to see them. They have a very formal way of holding hands and at times Cruise looks like he is supporting her so she won’t fall over. Also, someone brought up how KH chose TC’s awards night in Berlin to come out with a new look and Cruise had to go find his fans and sign autographs at KH’s movie premiere night.

• Battlemama
  Jan 11, 2008 at 1:44 pm

  I meant I am leaning towards her staying for the money. SORRY!!

• Libraesque2007
  Jan 11, 2008 at 1:53 pm

  I agree only in that the money comes under the contract…the business deal
  NO ONE would endure what she has for shopping…..no one. It’s much more complicated than that….trust.

• jajorge
  Jan 11, 2008 at 3:06 pm

  i wholeheartedly see things like battlemama! i really don’t think anyone’s necessarily FORCING her to stay with tom. if you think about it, why does he need her? suri, sure, but why katie? if anything, his career’s been plummeting since they hooked up, he doesn’t need her to bring home shopping money, doesn’t need her to bring fame…… he only needs a vapid gullible naive young’un next to whom he’ll feel powerful and good, and such girls are not so difficult to find, especially if you’re tom cruise…. no, she needs him. for the shopping. the companionship. the fame. the friends (cuz i get the impression she doesn’t have any). the family.

• toledo fan
  Jan 11, 2008 at 4:04 pm

  I thought she actually had a poster of Tom Hanks in her Teenage bedroom- not TC.?
  Indeed this is the ‘odd couple’. He saw a naive, malleable, vulnerable, impressionable, gullible, weak, (watch the ‘punked’ tape again) young woman who worshiped the ground he walked on. decided (with the help of his scieno cohorts) this would be his next wife and baby mama and his public image would be bullet proof. he thought wrong. he got smug and cocky and acted like an complete jack a s s and now his image is that of a fool and his career is in the toilet.
  I also used to like his movies- I was not a “fan” but enjoyed his movies. what threw me over the edge after the couch jumping was his rant on psychiatry and psychotropic drugs. I too am in a family of medical professionals and have close friends who have been helped by medication and/or counseling. Now I have nothing but disdain for him. As for KH- I waver from thinking she has an agenda to she’s just a stupid, vapid airhead who actually believes all the crap he is feeding her…

• Battlemama
  Jan 11, 2008 at 5:03 pm

  As a woman who has suffered from postpartum depression, I found his comments offensive. Yes, exercise and eating right does help it. But, when you have a lot of stress (like 3 babies in two and half years) and a lot to deal with emotionally and your hormones going every which way, the meds. are needed. Also, I am sure the around the clock nannies and house staff help a lot.

  TC should be grateful that both him and his wife don’t suffer from it and shut about what he knows nothing about!!

• nguzman
  Jan 11, 2008 at 5:19 pm

  When he ranted on and on about postpartum depression, he offended a lot of women out there.
  His Mission Impossible III movie took a hit because of it. And he still didn’t “get it.” He went after Matt Lauder and I could only imagine how he gets when he doesn’t get his way. Look out! Hopefully Suri won’t inherit his ego and temper.

• Carla
  Jan 11, 2008 at 6:26 pm

  Unfortunately, we will never really know the truth, when it comes to any of these incidents. If we did, it would probably upset us dramatically. Anyway, getting back to Cruise, he has no right to criticise that which he knows nothing about. I’m referring to postpartum depression. As for Katie, I think that she used to have a lot of fans, but many have gone to follow someone else.

• zagzag
  Jan 12, 2008 at 2:32 pm

  I remember Katie in pre-TC interviews and she came across as delightful, funny, cheerful and INTELLIGENT. Now she has been trained to talk in soundbites I think - so she ends up sounding ridiculous. While I understand why she avoids saying anything too long/in-depth due to bad editing, she is coming across as silly. I hope soon she does a longer type interview with someone fair and let’s her lovely personality show through. Although…I’m sure that she’ll be trained in exactly WHAT to say and HOW. Aaargh!

• bumblebeej
  Jan 13, 2008 at 2:23 am

  I just watched this (old, I know). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc_wjp262RY
  I can’t believe how many times TC contradicts himself. And he’s very condescending… The interviewer should have pulled the plug.

• nguzman
  Jan 13, 2008 at 9:44 am

  bumblebeej: I’m glad you put this YOUTUBE link because it only reinforces Tom Cruise’ arrogrance,
  ignorance, agenda. He says “yes, he would like people to try and look into Scientology and yes, what it is about.” Or something along those lines. He is so arrogant, rude, obnoxious. It is Tom Cruise’ way or the highway.

  This interview was probably played over and over again in Cruise’ camp and they probably disscected it and told him, “try not to come across too forcefull or passionate because you turn people off. Try to smile and be kind to Katie in public, hold her hand like a gentleman so the public can think what a kind and loving man, he’s so attentive with his wife. And then with Suri take pictures holding her carefully, the public will eat it up. People love a fairy tale story.”

  Can you imagine being married to someone like this? He would bully you into a corner and want you to EXPLAIN your belief and then have a comeback “look Scientology is very smiliar because of this or that, etc.” And if you live with this person and don’t have a steady job Monday thru Friday (40 hours) you have to HEAR this all day and night long. And then all the hired help have probably been counseled to push Scientology. Everyone in that house is probably a Scientologist probably even the gardner. No wonder Katie Holmes sometimes looks DRAINED with black circles, every where she goes in that house (except shopping) its probably Scientology talk.

  The heartbreaker for me would be when my child starts to be put through this drill (practicing Scientology). That would really be sad. But I agree with Battlemama, she is in it for the money and she made her choice. But Suri didn’t pick, she wasn’t given a choice, she was born into this.

  And in my neck of the woods, going to see a movie is $10.50 so you know I have to either REALLY like the actors in the movie or go to a matinee showing which is $9.50 And there are very few movies out there that I really, really like. I think the classics are actually better made movies.

• nguzman
  Jan 13, 2008 at 10:04 am

  And one thing about being a celebrity, more and more there are forums (the Internet, DVDs, blogs, pictures, magazines (rags), etc.) that record what you say. YouTube is a powerful medium because it can be played again and again and again.

  I’ll never forget when Sally Field won an Academy Award for Best Actress. She began her speech by saying something along the lines “I know you like me.” It took her YEARS to live that down. She revealed she was seeing a therapist, was insecure about Hollywood, and needed to say that to Hollywood and the WORLD.

  This YOUTUBE video on Brooke Sheilds and postpartum, and the Oprah jumping segment are two things that will forever haunt Tom Cruise.

  I mean, he has not jumped on another couch since then AND has not given another interview where is comes across as forceful as the one with Matt Lauer. Why? Because he knows now he turned off a lot of people.

  You turn off the public and they won’t pay $10.50 to see your movie. And in some movie houses in my city, its $14.00 a ticket. After a while, if your movies keep bombing, your salary rate goes down, and then no more green light on your movies to be made. Then you appear on those captions “Remember him” he used to be a big star. And Tom Cruise is still too young to be out of the game. Although I think he has aged a lot in the last few years. He says he doesn’t sleep a lot, maybe he should rethink that because the big screen picks up all the lines on your face. He’s gonna need botox shots soon or something. Wait, he doesn’t believe in injections.

• Snowflake325
  Jan 13, 2008 at 10:08 am

  I think Tom doesn’t sleep a lot because he can’t sleep. He always appears very “manic,” which is a psychological condition. I think he definitely is in need of meds. That’s probably why they don’t share a bedroom, because Tom is downstairs jumping on the furniture all night for “exercise.” He’s definitely manic!

• nguzman
  Jan 13, 2008 at 10:09 am

  I mean we know he doesn’t believe in medications because that is probably the reason why Suri always has her fingers in her mouth. Surely she has been teething for a while and they don’t want to give her any medication because they must think there are side effects to teething medicine, let the child stick her fingers in her mouth. She doesn’t know any better. She thinks that’s normal. Poor Suri. I mean there are a lot of pictures with her putting her finger or the blanket in her mouth. Maybe that’s why she still uses the bottle.

• nguzman
  Jan 13, 2008 at 10:14 am

  And in my opinion, all actors are egotistic. You would have to be because you are also rejected a lot so you have to have this “deluded” image off your greatness. And some actors are more egotistic than others.

  I think a lot of today’s actors, celebrities are actually overrated. But they are egotistic and love the attention. I think the front runner here is Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Jessica Simpson, etc. I predict that next year at this time MAYBE only Lindsey Lohan will still be in the news. The rest will be found under a caption “Remember Her.”

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