Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Having Trouble Conceiving
Rumor has it that TomKat are trying desperately for another tomkitten but are having troubles conceiving.
“Katie is so upset. They both really want another child, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening. She says they have been trying since last summer. Tom and Katie have decided to go and see a specialist.”
This must be heartbreaking for the couple. I wonder how Scientology feels about fertility drugs?
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110 opinions for Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Having Trouble Conceiving
catinthehat
Jan 6, 2008 at 9:35 am
Check out this link to excerpts from Morton’s book — some people think Suri was conceived by L Ron’s stored sperm!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=506359&in_page_id=1773&ct=5
catinthehat
Jan 6, 2008 at 9:36 am
GEEZ, do these people know any other word other than AMAZINGK??!
nguzman
Jan 6, 2008 at 10:03 am
Catinthehat, this is an interesting theory and I would not put it past Tom Cruise and the gulliable Katie Holmes to actually do it. Who’s knows the truth but I am certain of one thing, Suri is Katie Holmes daughter. What I am convinced is that Katie does not understand the ramifications of what she has gotten into. In that video link where she is being interviewed by Access’ Billy Bush and he asks her about Scientology and she says she likes it and has been to the sessions and feels its bettering her life, I think if she really means that she has not been presented with the full blown Scientology beliefs yet. TC has probably sugar coated it for her so that she can slowly leave begin her Catholic faith. She thinks she has her situation under control but she does not. And when she tries to leave, she’s gonna find herself explaining again and again that “Scientology is not for me.” When I saw this video of her saying its amazing I must say any kind of respect (if that’s the word) I had for this girl went out the window. She has completely sold her soul and her daughter Suri is the sacrificial lamb. Poor little girl. She is going to be indoctrinated with these false beliefs and then to change that she will have to be deprogrammed.
No wonder John Travolta is such a devout follower, he goes to audits 5 times per week no matter where he is at. He gets on his plane and flies there. And the same will happen to Katie Holmes. She will go to these audits and confess her sexual desire, habits and someone will be writing all this down. And when she tries to leave after she realizes this is all a sham, they will have leverage against her. What a stupid girl.
Carla
Jan 6, 2008 at 10:09 am
Wen Morton wrote about Diana, critics called the book, a pack of lies. Yet, after 10 years, these so called lies have come true. Maybe that can explain why Katie disappeared for two weeks, right after she met Cruise.
nguzman
Jan 6, 2008 at 10:15 am
She probably was going through an extensive audit and interview. The Scientologist had to make sure before this relationship went any further that she was not going to become a “Potential Source Problem.” She probably convinced them that she was not a devout Catholic, not really that close to her family, etc. All the girly, immature things one says when they are young and naive. She’s really stupid.
Carla
Jan 6, 2008 at 10:48 am
Good point. Then she found out that she was pregnant (not Cruise’s) and he jumped up and down for joy on Oprah’s show. That’s like finding out that after you won the lottery, you also won the bonus. I beleive that at first, she was a babbling, girly-kin, who thought she found a goldmine, too. I think that Cruise kept her drugged for awhile, after she started to realize what crap she actually stepped into, and once people step into scientology, it’s like quicksand. They are stuck for the duration of their life, and can’t get out. The harder they try to get out of it, they are pulled back down, and go deeper into it, until they are fully consumed.
Carla
Jan 6, 2008 at 10:52 am
Travolta revealed that one of the democratic presidential contenders is a scientologist. I wonder if any of you watched Travolta and heard him on this late-night talk show.
New York
Jan 6, 2008 at 3:25 pm
It’s all extremely disturbing, and we all know where there’s smoke, there’s fire. And Tom Curise has a virtual inferno of flames all around him. I have to believe that Katie is very well aware at this point that she’s hopped on the spaceship of NO RETURN. It is very sad. Her life is basically over, whether she stays and lives this weirdO life or decides to leave. Nobody would write a book this explosive without there being truth to it. Just as Princess Diana’s book turned out in the end to be all truths. Morton is a well-respected writer and researcher. I think at this point Katie is trying to make the best of a really nightmareish situation. She will lose her little girl if she walks (and maybe her life). She’s not the brightest bulb on the tree, that’s for sure, but she’s not retarded either. She knows now what she’s gotten herself into. Can any of you imagine what her life must be like? All these rumors and constant innuendo would take its toll on the toughest of people. In public she acts as if all is well in her world. Well, that just flies in the face of reason. She wasn’t brought up in this enviornment. Her parents and family must be truly horrified, if not before, they are certainly now at the 11th hour of the release of this explosive book. Katie, I pray that you are okay and that your little girl is okay. I don’t believe there is a way out for you anymore. To be the butt of this huge joke must be horrifying. It would be to any normal person. There isn’t enough money in the world to make me want to trade places with you.
Battlemama
Jan 6, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Posted the links to the DAILY MAIL article under the MAD MONEY trailer. I will enjoy the commentary–LOL!!!
I think Libra may have hit the nail on the head with this one. I was skeptical about the turkey baster thing!!
Battlemama
Jan 6, 2008 at 3:28 pm
She won’t walk away alive with Suri if the L.Ron thing is true. It may have been in the contract Cruise had her sign without Daddy being there!!
Battlemama
Jan 6, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Wonder if they meant for Suri to be a boy and nature took its course and they ended up with a girl. I am sure with in-vitro, that mistake will not happen again.
The stupid idiot (KH) gets what she deserves!!!! She is such a dispicable person who not only sold herself, but innocent children for money. I hope both become pariahs in Hollyweird!!
New York
Jan 6, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Even if TC did a paternity test, nobody would believe it, because of course that would be rigged through those Scientologist freaks. She definitely looks like Katie, a little like Tom. But I have to admit that her baby-baby pictures look nothing like Suri is today. I almost think it was two different children they were displaying. Also, makes absolute NO SENSE how NOBODY was allowed to see the baby after the birth for like five months (maybe more) and now Katie and Tom have her everywhere. I bet she is THE most photographed child in the world. These two are just complete nincompoops, idiots, dolts. There’s no reasonable rationale to their thinking, which prompts the issue of a coverup. Tom, if you want Katie to get pregant so you can FINALLY have your son that you always wanted (jerk, YOU ALREADY HAVE A SON!), you must need to get neked and put your peeepeeee in her vjayjay and you must be in the same room (we hear you don’t sleep together). I would just die if you were my “husband.” And you get ickier and weirder looking with every passing day.
DescentIn2Madness
Jan 6, 2008 at 4:03 pm
“Dammit Tom, stop drinking the sperm out of the turkey baster!”
leo
Jan 6, 2008 at 4:47 pm
A few months ago I saw an interview with Tom and the reporter asked him if he reads the tabloids. His response was “no”. He said it doesn’t bother him what people write or say.
OK Tom, if it doesn’t bother you then why are your attorneys always filing a suit against someone?
leo
Jan 6, 2008 at 4:47 pm
A few months ago I saw an interview with Tom and the reporter asked him if he reads the tabloids. His response was “no”. He said it doesn’t bother him what people write or say.
OK Tom, if it doesn’t bother you then why are your attorneys always filing a suit against someone?
Carla
Jan 6, 2008 at 5:23 pm
New York:
On the date they gave that Suri was born, Katie’s parents didn’t bother to leave their vacation home in Florida, to see their new granddaughter, and be by Katie’s bedside. Why? Could it be that Suri was born months prior to that date given (April 18), and this was fake news? THen Suri disappears for 6 months. WHy? Could it be that they were trying to hide the fact that the kid was older than her birth date? Then Suri is seen walking at 7 months old and Katie tries to stop her, to act like she is helping her walk. WHy? Could it be that Suri was actually 12 months old, when most babies learn how to walk? Common sense dictates that if Katie got pregnant by Cruise, even 1 day after they had met in April, they wouldn’t have to hide Suri’s true birth date, which would place the birth around January, not the following April. They are hding her true birth date because Katie was already pregnant when they met, which would place the birth around Dec, not April. The reason for the April birth date is to continue with Katie’s preception of her image as a virgin, and innocent girl-next-door type. No one saw Katie in the hospital, not even Brooke Shields, who had her baby down the hall the same day. ANd the paparazzi were staking out Cruise’s house 27/7 and never saw them leave to go to the hospital. WHen Grier, Brooke’s girl had her first birthday party, Suri attended both it was not a joint birthday party.
LoneStar
Jan 6, 2008 at 6:26 pm
The L.Ron/Rosemary’s baby analogy hit a note with me. I just remember when KH was pregnant how out of touch with it she seemed. I’ve had children and I could not stop touching the belly that held the child conceived with the man I loved. It is part of a woman’s nature, I think. Those of you who have been pregnant know what I’m talking about, I think. Now why did KH seem so embarrassed, uncomfortable about her growing belly? They were out in public a LOT and I don’t see one picture of her rubbing her belly, even unconsciously. TC, however, was constantly rubbing it like it was a magic lamp or something. She wore that dumb white coat and tried to hide all the time. What was up with that? This all sounds so “conspiracy theory”, but dang, truth can be stranger than fiction, as they say. I wouldn’t put it past those COS folks to talk this girl into anything because of her infatuation with Cruise.
candice
Jan 6, 2008 at 7:24 pm
maybe there is some conspiracy maybe not but i dont believe that suri is ron hubbards baby. Katie is always going on about how perfect her life is from childhood to now and to me that would of been to have a fairytail romance get married and then get pregnant. If they were going to use hubbards frozen sperm surely they would of done the wedding thing the right way. There would be less specutlation then. Well thats the way i see it anyway. I think they had a slip up and suri was concieved like alot of other babies. (my first two were born out of wedlock)
Carla
Jan 6, 2008 at 8:51 pm
That’s my point. Suri was born out of wedlock, so it wouldn’t have mattered if she was conceived the first day they met or or two months later. There is too much controversy surrounding her birth date of April 18, for that to be her actual date. WHether katie got pregnant from Josh Hartlett, or Ron Hubbard’s frozen sperm, the fact remains that Cruise is not the biological father. That’s what Morton was trying to portray.
candice
Jan 6, 2008 at 9:29 pm
I would believe the josh hartlett theory before giving any credit to ron hubbards frozen sperm theory. If they were going to use frozen sperm to inseminate her then there would be less controversy if they got married first and had babies after. I dont think that the church of scientology leaders are that stupid. If they wanted to recreate another hubbard leader and they are smart enough to keep the cult going this long by recruting celebs etc i believe they would of done it differently. I would still like to believe that suri does belong to tom but i guess only time will tell on that one. Maybe im just to straight forward to believe any conspiracy theories that stretch that far. On the other hand the more i think about it if katie was pregnant with another mans baby but desperatley wanted to be with her childhood crush maybe they would keep the paternity a secrete. But there really is no way of telling what a child will look like when its born so its a bit of a gamble. Anna-nicole tried to pass her baby off as howard sterns but the older that child gets the more she looks like her dad.
nguzman
Jan 6, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Candice, I think a lot of wealthy men sometimes wait to see if the child is actually theirs and then later comes the extravagant wedding: Donald Trump and Marla Maples, Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones, Eddie Murphy and his first wife Nicolen, Johnny Depp and Vanessa, Rod Steward and Penny Lanscaster, etc. The baby after its birth serves as the deal maker. Too much $$$ is at stake. What if the person loses the baby then you got married for nothing…I mean in these cases.
nguzman
Jan 6, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Oops! I forgot about Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, Madonna and Guy Richie. The baby becomes the reason why these unions even happen.
candice
Jan 6, 2008 at 10:23 pm
babies are the sealing deal in most marriages celeb or not, (probably why divorce rate is so high) what i was getting at is if they delibratley used hubbards sperm for a baby then i think they would of had the fairytale wedding first. After all if there was one lot of sperm and it failed the first time surely they would have more to try again. So there would be no need to wait till suri was born to get married as they already knew who the baby belonged to. And if cruise knew suri wasnt his, again, why would they wait. They obviously intended to be togeather either way whether for career gain, more money to spend at the shops or whatever.
nguzman
Jan 6, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Possibly the wedding came after because they had to make sure she was “convertible” to Scientology, able to carry a baby to full term, and probably a few other things we don’t know. The sad thing is that when you are not close to your family, you become very vulnerable. I mean look at poor Britney Spears. She is shacking up with a papparazo instead of talking to her mom or dad of whatever is troubling her. What is that??? It is dangerous when one ventures off to far from the fray. That is when vultures come along and take you away.
candice
Jan 7, 2008 at 12:11 am
I see what your saying but it doesnt make sense. I wouldnt think that they would trust her with getting pregnant (thats if the church is behind it) If they thought she would be a flight risk. To me they would have her completely brainwashed first and that way there would be no risk of her causing trouble. Look how long it took kidman to realise what they were about. I dont think they would just pull katie off the street after such a short amount of time and trust her to be pregnant with the church founder’s baby. Its to risky if you ask me and the fact that they audit all their followers so that they have dirt on them incase they cause trouble just proves the lenghts they go to to make sure their followers are kept in line. I think Holmes was and is vulnerable but to me that makes her more unstable. I just dont think they would trust her with something that big that soon.
toledo fan
Jan 7, 2008 at 1:05 am
candice- I agree.
Did any of you see KH on ‘punked’? It shows how really naive and immature and gullible she is!
It was on YouTube but I don’t know if it is still avlbl.
ps- The Holmes’ are back from Telluride.
toledo fan
Jan 7, 2008 at 1:22 am
try this link- it’s painful to watch!!
http://www.itsfunnyhoney.com/video/75/katie_holmes_punked
Carla
Jan 7, 2008 at 9:15 am
Suri is either from another man or from artificial insemination. I guess it’s possible to think that Katie was drugged or knocked out, and knocked-up by a medical procedure while she was asleep. Why not? So she had a test tube baby. But that doesn’t explain why they faked her birth date and hid her from the public for many months. I mean, now this opens up a lot of speculations; Could Katie have had twins, and one died? Could one of the twins be born disfigured or something? COuld she have been inseminated at different times? That’s why her belly looked huge, and then smaller? This is crazy shite!
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 9:50 am
I think that this is plausible. Maybe once they got some good dirt on KH, there could be a p o r n movie of her somewhere, they did the procedure. They also could have drugged her and then convinced her that TC really was the Dad. Look at Nicole, she only gets to see her kids when TC says so and she has to keep her mouth shut. I am sure, from the beginning, she signed a contract and I don’t think her father got a hold of that one before his daughter signed it. I am sure there is clause in there about a baby.
Also, at that point in their relationship, Kh was delirious that she now had Cruise’s money in her hand and Suri would guarantee it. When I heard about their ‘engagement’, I remember thinking she has to be preggo. It was too soon.
I think the wedding was put off because KH called her folks to tell them the news. They may not have anticipated Daddy Holmes getting involved.
Doesn’t Scientology believe somewhere that L.Ron will be reincarnated or something like that? If the followers are saying Suri is it, there may be something worth looking into.
If Cruise is such the out spoken Scientoligist, wouldn’t he be proud of being Second-in-command? There are so many lies and secrets, anything is possible. I don’t think Morton pulled this one of a hat and said it looks good. Also, why the death threats if there is not some ‘damaging’ truth here, like Suri’s paternity? I doubt this over the Tom in second position thing or the other stuff!! The rest has been circulating for awhile.
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:05 am
Toledo: Are you sure this wasn’t a Sciento. set-up/test? KH is a LIAR in this.
“I didn’t see anyone.”
“I always tell the truth.”
“I don’t know what you are talking about.”
Sounds like a perfect candidate to have L. Ron’s baby!!!
I mean this took place right before she met Cruise. Imagine what Cruise and Scientology would be able to convince KH of if this guy could in seconds.
Carla
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:18 am
Battlemamma:
I like your thoughts, and you seem to be very open minded.
Maybe the Scientologists are trying to AI her again, but it’s not working. Maybe her diet, and her weight loss are preventing her body from conceiving. And you are right; if this was all junk and no truth to it, why are they threatening to sue and threaten the lives of those who are involved? Morton didn’t sell his home and take his family into hiding because he is afraid that they might want to interview him.
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:51 am
They do believe in reincarnation. I guess L.Ron didn’t make it to the next level and he will be cursed with monthly cramps and PMS in ten years!!
Interesting fact for all: L.Ron was married three times. It was his third wife who supported him and Scientology the most. Wonder if Cruise and cult are hoping the third is the one as it was with L.Ron.
Libraesque2007
Jan 7, 2008 at 12:07 pm
there is no way that kid is anyones but kh and josh hartnetts. They would never allow an L Ron child to be born a b a s t a r d, which is what suri is
Carla
Jan 7, 2008 at 12:34 pm
A reincarnated person doesn’t need to have parents to be married to one another. She already has a legal name, and her guardian is the second in command.
Carla
Jan 7, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Cruise is the host and Katie is the hostess. HAHAHAHA
Libraesque2007
Jan 7, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I just read the greatest news!!!!
Nicole K dropped out of her next movie…..she’s GOT to be pregnant!!! What AWESOME timing, Mortons book is coming out and now this
HA
HA
HA!!!!
Marion
Jan 7, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Wow. Calling baby a bastard is classy. I’m sure, it’s a sign of extreme open-mindness and positive thinking.
On the topic, don’t all those articles about the second child sort of contradict each other? Just a few posts ago there was one in which Holmes claimed they were “in no rush” about it.
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Okay, here is another bizarre theory for all this crap:
KH will get Suri when she produces a ‘male heir’ with the L. Ron DNA. KH will also be paid quite handsomely too for producing the L Ron male heir. Maybe the ‘problem conceiving’ is Kh doesn’t want to go through with the procedure, yet, because she knows her usefullness will end and she probably realizes that Cruise will renege on the Suri promise. She will get paid for services rendered to TC and the cult.
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 1:58 pm
I am not sure about Suri and the L Ron thing, but if I were KH, I would bury myself in a deep cave. KNowing her, we will see her shopping with Suri and her and TC smooching it up in public.
Why are these two the only ones everyone in the world speculates about on the paternity of their kid? With all the theories out there, there has to be truth somewhere in them.
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Candice has a point about conspiracy theories getting out of control, but I think what she has missed is that from ‘Hello’ with these two, it was unbelievable, especially KH disappearing in the beginning. And then the controversy with hiding how far along KH was, the changing belly size, and hiding Suri, makes one pause to wonder why is there all this secrecy, especially now that Suri is plastered everywhere. (They went very public with everything to very private after Suri was ‘born’ to very public again.)
I don’t know the facts, but something smells very fishy. Right now, I think anything is plausible. I am enjoying the fact that we can get a bit ridiculous and creative here and it probably is somewhere near the truth.
Libraesque2007
Jan 7, 2008 at 2:49 pm
bottom line, there is NO WAY the COS would allow an illegitimate L.Ron child to be born. That kid is Josh Hartnetts.
I think it absolutely “amazing” that NK is pregnant right when this book is coming out, I LOVE it!!!
I also think it’s hilarious that this story of her having “trouble” conceiving is coming out now too (I don’t think it’s true, since she’s said in interviews recently that she wants more kids just not right away)
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Libra: I think the ‘having trouble to conceive’ story came out because in April she said she wanted more right away. Also, I am sure the rumors of Nicole being pregnant is having everyone ask why KH isn’t. It was predicted that there would be Tomkitten #2 and Nicole divorced in 2007. Looks like it’s a baby for Nicole and nothing but shameless PR for KH in 2007/2008.
Personally, I think Nicole has more grace than Katie in the whole mess. Katie and TC have insulted Nicole every chance they can get and Nicole has just taken it in stride, at least in public. Nicole opens her mouth and one or both of them is sueing and/or complaining.
Toledo: Thanks for all your research. Did TC and KH send Nicole a wedding present? We all know that Nicole sent them one as well as a baby congrats.
One more question, of a personal nature, Are you part of the Holmes family? You seem to know a lot about them.
smartgurl23
Jan 7, 2008 at 3:59 pm
I don’t believe this story
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Go to Popsugar: Nicole’s rep has confirmed she is pregnant. Congrats to Nicole and Keith, Bella and Connor on the soon-to-be new addition to their family.
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 6:06 pm
There is a dorky picture of TC in Telluride underneath it!!
Libraesque2007
Jan 7, 2008 at 6:32 pm
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
VERY very happy for them
and like I said before this is amazing timing, perfect
candice
Jan 7, 2008 at 7:15 pm
I have to agree with libra on this one. The church would never let katie have a baby of the founder without having her completely converted first.They are just to smart for that. I still like to think suri is toms but im starting to think that maybe (????) she might have been pregnant first. You cant believe that they would kidnap her for 2 weeks and then think that she would still stay with tom after that. It would have to be consensual for them to inseminate her. It was to soon for them to have audited her enough to keep her quiet. And battlemamma i have followed there story from the begining but honestly didnt give much of the story any credit. But the more i research the two of them i would have to agree something doesnt seem right but i dont believe that its as far fetched as her having hubbards baby. Katie is to much of a risk. Plus i dont think they would pick a woman with a good lawyer for a father to do freaky things like reincarnate babies. Contracts or not if she wanted out im sure daddy would do his best. And im really pleased for nic and keith. She deserves to have a baby after her failed ones (which i know from experience hurt like c r a p) I hope this pregnancy goes well for her!!
candice
Jan 7, 2008 at 8:37 pm
I also think the having problems concieving story is c r a p. I wouldnt mind betting that she gets pregnant soon to take the spot light back off kidman and onto herself. Maybe they already knew nicole was pregnant and thats why tom is saying he wants a son. If the start talking about it now then it wont look so obvious if katie becomes pregnant so soon after nicole.
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Totally agree Candice!!! I also think that is how they are going to justify KH going to fertility treatments, Cruise, L. Ron, or someone else being the donor. I am sure Cruise will make sure it is a boy too!! We do have the technology for that.
I also think they will be vindictive and keep Connor and Bella from seeing their new sibling too much and from allowing them to be photographed with their new sibling, like they were with Suri for VANITY FAIR. I think they will not let Nicole and Keith even present the idea of Connor and Bella have family other than Suri, KH, and TC.
I hope Nicole has a son, maybe twins (a girl and a boy)–LOL!!
Candice:
How do you think Morton’s book will effect the public image of Cruise and Holmes? What if they do produce another kid–do you think anyone would even think it is TC’s, other than KH?
Battlemama
Jan 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Candice, TC does have movie coming out in Oct. It would certainly help his PR if his wife popped out another for the premiere. Some people are saying that is why Cruise is pushing the premiere to Oct. –to give Kh time to concieve and be pregnant.
candice
Jan 7, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Battlemamma, I think mortons book will fuel the conspiracy rumors. But for every person who thinks there is something fishy there is just as many who are devoted fans and who wont believe it. But there are people out there like myself who thought it was all just paps and tabs rumors who are starting to second guess things. I think this book will be very interesting to alot of people. Maybe the cruises are going to have another baby for damage control purposes. After all having another cutie like suri around is only going to keep them in the spotlight. Who knows but i find it very interesting reading the things about these pair. As much as i cant quiet wrap my head around some of the theorys i cant stop researching it. It would completley blow me away if there was truth to any of it. Its kinda like one of the mystery novels i read. One thing is for sure if mortons book helps expose scientology for the pathetic cult that they are only good can come from that.
LoneStar
Jan 7, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Okay, I just posted a comment on the original “Nicole is pregnant” story, and everybody’s talking about it over here…LOL
I feel like these publicists will tell us anything. Like I said before, I don’t wish ill willl to Nic or her baby, but these publicists just cannot keep jacking with people by denying a fact one week and “announcing” it the next.
Onward…
Who remembers the pic of KH leaving the hotel the day after her birthday looking like hell in the Santa coat? Someone (can’t remember who)made a comment that she looked like she’d been crying. We’ve all done it, cried so long and hard that your eyes puff up the next day and no amount of makeup will cover it? Well, what about this whole Nicole pregnancy thing—wouldn’t that news have come out to the family about that same time (Dec 18?)? Maybe KH was mortified that Nic is preggers and she’s not. Maybe she found out on her birthday and had Tom take her to a hotel so she could be alone and away from the zoo that is the Cruise compound. Maybe KH’s drastic weight loss/starvation is causing her to have problems conceiving again. Now, that’s if you believe that Suri really is Tom’s. If you’re in the “Suri belongs to JH or some other bugger and Tom is sterile” camp, then it might have hit home to KH that she’ll never know the feeling of carrying Tom’s baby, yada yada yada, like Nic will know with Keith.
As I write this, I have a strange sensation. It’s like someone here posted once, it’s like an itch you have to scratch, or something to that effect. It’s like these two are a mystery, and we’re all trying to solve it so that we can say “AHA! I knew it!”. Wonder if we’ll ever really know the truth about any of the crazy Cruises. It IS fun passing the time speculating anyway. :)
Sorry if I offend anyone by not addressing you or replying to you by name if I mention something you said in an earlier post. Sometimes I’m too lazy to scroll up to check who posted what. But I do read everyone’s comments and I’m amazed at how much people on this site are as intrigued by these two as I am. They drive me nuts trying to appear “normal” when they seem to be anything but. I actually have a very busy life, but I always take a few moments out of my day to check what’s going on here. I think I can honestly call it an obsession now. I read the daily news and see politics, murder, mayhem all around, but this forum is where I speak out. Too funny.
nguzman
Jan 7, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Katie attended the Critics Choice awards. There’s a new picture of her on the following link.
Here come more appearances as Mad Money, the Morton book, and one other thing (I forgot) are about to be released. These people really create excitement and have the press following them around when they bring out Suri.
http://www.people.com/people/package/gallery/0,,20168756_20169874,00.html
LoneStar
Jan 8, 2008 at 12:04 am
I just had another thought about publicists. They have GOT to be running interference for these two by keeping up with their popularity (or lack of) with the public. How else did TC know how much he screwed up with the psychology bit, the couch-jumping, the Brooke Shields fiasco, etc. They cut out the PDA pretty quick when people started complaining about how sickening they were. I’m sure we’ll see Connor and Bella again when the rumors get back to TC and KH. And KH herself said she thought it was awful what people were saying about her and her family. How do you know what we’re saying?? Because you pay people to act as moles on your fan sites to take the pulse and temperature of your fan base? Even Yahoo can tell you what’s being searched on the Internet and we know how tight Yahoo and TC are…
Okay, I’m rambling now. Sorry.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 12:09 am
In a way nguzman, it shows KH’s immaturity (and she is not that young) that she couldn’t at least wish Nicole her happiness. KH has carried and given birth to a baby. Imagine how Nicole felt during that time and she handled it with such grace and goodwill toward KH and TC.
I understand KH’s hurt that it is not her, but she has been viscious in her attacks towards Nicole.
Imagine someone, the new young honey who is with your kids, stabbing you at Christmas time with your kids call me ‘mom’.
This honey, who can’t stand the spotlight off her and her darling baby, is further going to try to steal the spotlight off your joy of being pregnant with the first child you are able to carry by the poor picked on me routine and probably another pregnancy in the media. Let’s further add insult to past injuries.
What next, Connor and Bella can’t be with Nicole and her baby because they have to drool over a new Holmes baby. That would be even more insulting!!!
Besides, according to the liar of the year Holmes, she has the perfect life and is waiting before having more kids!!
Cruise and Holmes put out this story in response to Nicole being pregnant to put the light back on themselves and condemn Nicole for her joy!!!! That is very immature and obnoxious on TC’s/KH’s part. There was no congrats in this story, only the poor baby KH is sad and not getting her way!!!!
I was always grateful when I got pregnant because I realized not everyone had the same blessings I did. KH is an immature, spoiled baby who needs to GROW UP!!!! Maybe she needs more auditting with TC and L. Ron’s s p e r m!
I’m sorry, but I am sick of the poor Katie not getting her way all the time routine! It is called life and she needs to learn this ‘grace’ that everyone says she has. Because there is not much in her behavior towards Nicole which suggests she has any, just a jealous, vindictive third wife streak. She is like a dog p e e ing everywhere to mark her territory and apprarently being a Cruise wife or ex-wife pregnant is something Nicole is not allowed.
She read the paper more, and I am not talking about the tabloids and how they are praising her and Suri. I am talking about actual news of what real people are suffering. She might ‘gain some perspective’ (to quote Cruise about world travel with Suri) about how pampered and spoiled she is. Maybe KH needs to travel to Sub-Saharan Africa with Jolie on her next UN mission. Maybe Jolie can kick her skinny bum around, too, until KH grows up.
Nguzman, I come here for the same reason. The melodrama keeps getting better and the main actors, Holmes and Cruise, more and more childish, vicious, and silly.
nguzman
Jan 8, 2008 at 12:22 am
Battlemama, I enjoy reading your comments because I know you are very well informed. I myself enjoy reading Hollywood entertainment news and have done so since I was 10 years old. I have always found it very interesting, the stars, the movies, the way they market themselves, the premieres, etc. One comes to the understanding that this is an image, talent, and money driven business. I agree with you on many things regarding Katie Holmes. I must say I have never “noticed her” on the Hollywood scene until she began engaged to Tom Cruise. I have heard of her name but never watched Dawson Creek. I also don’t think she’s that young, she already 29 years old. That’s a big girl. In my opinion she was lured in by her crush on Tom Cruise, the money he flashed around, the private planes, his yes people around his making her feel comfortable and important, probably he bought her many private gifts, etc. I think he even presented “Scientology” and those clearing sessions as a good thing this way you’re always happy and clear (pun intended). Only its more complicated then that. Good luck to her. She is going to need it. In this new picture that just came out of Katie Holmes tonight, its on People’s and PerezHilton’s website she looks thinner in her gown (which appears like a toga) probably worn to ignite pregnancy rumors.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 12:27 am
She looks ridiculous. What is up with her feet?
Also, I thought the stars were supporting the writers during their strike and were not crossing lines.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 12:29 am
Her dress: It’s a overpaid-for glittery towel in my opinion. With all that money and her shopping stamina, she could not come up with better.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 12:47 am
Best comment about her dress I read: ‘a burka for Scientologists.’ It would match the ‘burka’ she wore to TC’s Lions Premiere in L.A.
The only thing I can say about the hair style on Holmes and the stillettos: “Sally Field on stilts.” No insult intended to Sally Field, I really respect her as an actress. It was just my initial reaction to the pic. Well, that and “What an expensive and ugly towel/shower curtain!”
I guess TC wasn’t there, so she busted out the 5 inch heels. She towers over the microphone on stage. LOL!!(Look at the perezhilton pic.)
Well, I am going to bed. I have three kids and a husband to face in 7 hours.
nguzman
Jan 8, 2008 at 12:53 am
More Katie Holmes appearances coming up…
This is from The Los Angeles Times:
Katie Holmes, a surprise presenter of Best Comedy to “Juno” at the Broadcast Critics Choice Awards tonight, is done being dragged down red carpets by her superstar husband.
The well-spoken brunette was flying solo tonight and was hands-down the most fashionably dressed woman of the evening, clad in a knock-out, one-shouldered sparkly Grecian-style gown from the Spring 08 collection of Lanvin’s Alber Elbaz. Katie didn’t walk the red carpet.
This is far from Katie’s last appearance this week. The premiere of of her new comedy, “Mad Money,” takes place Wednesday night.
And Katie will also appear at Glamour Magazine’s low-key V-Day luncheon on Thursday at Craft in Century City, to support feminist/activist Eve Ensler’s internatonal anti-violence towards women’s charity.
toledo fan
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:31 am
whew- lots to read tonight!
Battlemama- couldn’t find anything about a present from TC to Nicole for her wedding. seems odd we didn’t hear anything at all.
No..I am not related to the Holmes family- just close to the inner circle. It is getting harder and harder to get much info as everyone is very very closed mouth about this odd couple and more so as things get worse. I know things about the family that would shock you but respect (and fear) them (attorneys you know) to much to tell. let’s just say they aren’t (except for the Mom) the sweet apple pie all American family KH would like us to think.
toledo fan
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:45 am
OMG how great if this is true about Nicole being pregnant!!! I hope her nothing but the best.
Geeze-I just saw KH in that thing- I don’t know if you could call it a dress/gown. expensive gunny sack maybe. yuk!
I don’t believe the “she can’t get pregnant” story either. she did say more kids “but not right away” in one of the Mad Money interviews.
As for the “who’s baby is it”- as far as the family believes- it is hers and TC’s. the theories are interesting tho. I do believe there is something that doesn’t smell right about the date of the birth. and yes her parents didn’t leave their FL vacation condo to attend the birth and KH’s Mom is VERY family oriented and we all thought it VERY strange she didn’t go immediately to LA.
It just gets ‘curiouser’ and ‘curiouser’.
I can’t wait to read Morton’s book. Like I have said before about our “obsession” with these two- it’s a great diversion/escape!
toledo fan
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:01 am
there are more pics on just jared. she actually looks good make-up wise. the hair- so-so. the gown- looks expensive of course but attractive?- not so much..:p
‘nite all
catinthehat
Jan 8, 2008 at 5:02 am
I’m flabbergasted that Tom let her attend an event without him. I actually think she looks really good in these pics (although the dress is horrendous) and is smiling naturally — probably b/c she got to escape TC for the night.
Carla
Jan 8, 2008 at 6:00 am
What is so demeaming about Katie, is that CHristmas ‘06, she visited ONE struggling family with gifts and a Christmas tree. For Christmas ‘07, she visited the designer stores. At least her mother, along with 26 other women, helped to knit many sewaters, hats and scarves to keep those in need warm. Katie, who could afford to give charitable money to clothe an entire city, only cares about herself. This young woman deserves everything she gets; fame, money, prestige, ridicule, verbal abuse, isolation, etc., etc. It all comes with the package.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 8:41 am
I read somewhere about that ‘chairtable’ thing she did. First, the family told them their name and she kept referring to them as ‘that Hispanic family.’ Second, she took the cameras and press with her to deliver everything. (Most normal Sub-For-Santas have you drop the stuff to a third party to keep everything annonymous.) I remember her seeing shopping with Bella that year too and I kept thinking ‘How do they know that she is shopping for charity?’ Well, her publicist probably informed them, especially after the pics of her delivering the stuff. And it was upfront, right next to her and not from the distance of a pap. following her to snap a shot.
Being charitable has more to do than just giving. It is about giving and not bringing the press with you to say ’see what I did.’ (That is why there are those out there who take exception to Pitt-Jolie being named the most charitable of the year. They point out that Paul Newman should have it, partly becaues he didn’t bring the press. The press is usually filming Jolie and Pitt.)
With KH, it was more of a PR stunt and when it didn’t get the press singing in choirs about her generosity, she probably stopped.
Her mother does what she does without inviting the press with her. She has been knitting these sweaters for awhile, at least that is the impression I got from the article.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 8:52 am
Toldeo: Thanks for your response. I was not looking for dirt, just confirmation of an impression. That’s all!
I think all families are imperfect and we all have dirt to hide. Wonder if Kh brought this up in auditing and this is why the whole clan is playing nice with Cruise and cult.
Here is my rebuttal to the Florida thing and Suri’s birth: Maybe Kh told her mother she wasn’t welcomed the first two weeks of Suri’s birth. I am sure it would have hurt her mom, but it is KH we are talking about here.
From what I understand, they stay at the Beverly Hills Hilton when they visit, any way. Don’t know about you guys, but I would never invite my parents and then tell them to stay at a hotel, especially if I had a large mansion and a guest house.
Besides, TC’s mom was there as well as the Scieto handlers/nannies. I am sure Mama Cruise was in the delivery room when Suri was born.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 8:54 am
Maybe it was Sciento. President Dave Misgieve (I know I am misspelling it) who was in the delivery room with TC and KH when Suri was born!! (Wink, wink) The surrogate was giving birth to their kid for them.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 9:00 am
Info about why UA cut a deal with the writers, ticking off other stories: It is Cruise’s failure:
Here is the article:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,320929,00.html
“Tom Cruise’s $100 Million Nazi Movie
“Valkyrie,” the movie about the failed 1944 assassination plot to kill Adolf Hitler, has already cost United Artists between $90 million and $100 million, sources tell me.
That’s why UA was so eager to cut a deal with the Writers Guild over the weekend and get back to work. Still pending on this film — which no one in their right mind actually wants to see — are a number of big reshoots as well as a huge battle scene that hasn’t been shot yet.
It makes you wonder what they spent the $90 million on so far? Tom Cruise’s eye patch?
United Artists is the first production company to make a side deal with the WGA, causing a lot of Sturm und Drang among the studios.
But reality bites, and if UA can’t get back to business quickly, it could go under. Robert Redford’s “Lions for Lambs” already lost them a nice piece of change. The “Valkyrie” price tag is running high.
Soon, its $500 million credit line from Merrill Lynch could be imperiled. As it’s been explained to me by an insider, the credit line goes in steps. “You don’t get it all at once,” says my source. “It’s only as each movie succeeds.”
The burgeoning price tag on “Valkyrie” could turn out to be a big headache. Most Cruise movies have not made much more than $100 at the box office, with the exception of the “Mission: Impossible” series. And that series was trending downward. “Lions for Lambs” didn’t help the situation.
The next Cruise film being discussed isn’t even for UA. Right now, the fledgling restart studio could use a “Jerry Maguire”-type project from Cruise, or a “Top Gun” action flick to jumpstart its bottom line.
Still, you never bet against Cruise’s partner Paula Wagner in Hollywood. She got the WGA waiver. The thinking in town is that she must have a great project she’s ready to initiate.”
Keep dancing Libra. Cruise has really done badly with UA and now Hollywood studios are even more mad at him about caving into the writers. Must have also threatened them to get back to work or they would have to be audited at the COS Headquarters.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 9:05 am
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,320929,00.html
Article discusses why UA gave into writers’ demands and upset other studios for caving in: TC and his failed movies. UA is about to go bankrupt and lose Merrill Lynch because Cruise is costing them money. From the $100 million Nazi eyepatch, no movie, to failed LIONS FOR THE LAMBS. In other words, other studios are mad at Cruise yet again. Paula must have threatened the writers to either sign or go throw auditing sessions at the COS.
Vianne
Jan 8, 2008 at 9:28 am
I posted earlier, but my post never appeared.
This was interesting:
http://www.laineygossip.com/More_explosive_allegations_from_Andrew_Morton_about_Tom_Cruise.aspx
Also, have you checked out Xenu TV on YouTube?
leo
Jan 8, 2008 at 11:36 am
Does anyone know if Paula is a scientologist as well?
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 11:51 am
Best quote I can find: “Is she a Scientologist? She looks momentarily startled. ‘Well, that’s not what this interview is about really. We… our company is a film company and we respect all the beliefs; everyone has their own beliefs and it’s personal.”
Sounds like she is purposefully dodging that one. I think she is…she has been with Cruise for over 20 years. I doubt Scientology would keep someone like her close to Cruise if she wasn’t.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 11:52 am
Here is the interview link:
http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview/interviewpages/0,,2208913,00.html
Libraesque2007
Jan 8, 2008 at 12:03 pm
oh my god….I just saw the pics of katie…..she’s a skeleton!!!!!!! she must have dropped 15 lbs in the last month, it’s awful!!!!! her collarbone…YIIIIKES. She’s mastered the fake tan though, her face looks pretty.
that dress………uuuuuhhhh, no.
toledo fan
Jan 8, 2008 at 12:46 pm
battlemama- I know you weren’t looking for dirt- I guess it irritates me when I hear the “all american girl from the midwest” crap when I know different. I would never pass it on as I agree we are all flawed. I heard a good quote from a phd- “all families are dysfunctional- the only difference is the level of dysfunction”. :)
There is a scientology site listing some members and their “level” but I don’t see Paula on it- but…who knows what name she would use- kauffman, wagner, nicita. I found Bella but haven’t looked for the other family members yet. They list by first name- making it very difficult to find a single person. The other alarming thing is the HUGE number names listed- very scary!!!
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/b/bella-cruise.html
toledo fan
Jan 8, 2008 at 12:55 pm
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/k/kate-holmes.html
don’t know if this is KH or not…
actually the web site is not very current according to the “last updated” notes.
Libraesque2007
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:12 pm
wow…..more bad news for tc and UA. I think he and PW are out of their league, obviously. Paul N certainly found the patsy he was looking for in tc…..they didn’;t even have the good sense to turn it down……speciallywith the second movie out of the studio being that nazi piece of crap that no one wants to go see….that’s running WAY over budget and isn’t even completed!!!!
makes me smile
toledo fan
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:19 pm
this is from-
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/14476/the-trouble-with-tom-cruise
There’s a complex and delicate detente at work between the secularists and the Scientologists. I didn’t ask Wagner outright if she was a Scientologist. I did ask her whether the secret of her long relationship with Cruise - she has outlasted two wives, a girlfriend and several publicists and will no doubt be at his wedding - was a “shared spirituality”. The answer was no.
“We are two professional people who have worked together professionally for a long time,” she says. “We worked together as agent and client and now we’re producing partners. And that’s it. He’s a good friend and a wonderful human being. There are always boundaries when you work with someone successfully. We have our professional lives and our personal lives and it works for us. We’re good friends. He’s a good man. He’s my dear friend.”
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:45 pm
With their tendency towards secrecy and them being upset about TC being outed, wouldn’t it make sense to keep this under wraps if she and her husband are? Also, would both of them be managing Cruise and Holmes if they weren’t? I am sure someone is paying for outing Smith and his wife.
Morton said that Scientology keeps Cruise on a short leash. That is a well known fact! Who better than his manager to do that. She is also dodging bullets for Scientology too.
Something to consider in all this.
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Toldeo: It is nice the comments that you do have, though. You are a great researcher.
I wonder how many are on the list who have since left, yet they keep the names to make themselves look better. I wonder what Bella will do in three years when, if, she leaves home. I get the feeling that no one leaves the house, except the wives.
Libraesque2007
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:18 pm
it’s been reported that that is EXACTLY what they do, they don’t update their celebrity lists when people leave…I just saw an article recently about that very thing, but I can’t remember the actresses name who gave the interview.
what I find odd about the msnbc article about mortons book is…….if “they’ve” interviewed people to dis-credit his claims, wouldn’t it be in their best interest to “find” “sources” that would say they “saw” david m on a plane for London after the wedding, etcetc….what the h e l l is the difference????
Libraesque2007
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:24 pm
it also says that dustin h was his best man then “later” says david m was…..okay well to me that says that hoffman was his best man at the nk wedding and everyone knows dm was the best man at the kh wedding, but the way they’re wording it it sounds like he contradicts himself.
WELL, bottom line….everyone can judge for themselves when it comes out!!!!
toledo fan
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:34 pm
EXACTLY! it’s coming to the point where lies are needed to cover other lies and sooner or later its all going blow up in their faces. I hope it’s sooner than later!
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 4:45 pm
I found the article you were referring to Libra. What still bogles my mind is that they are more upset with how insulting it is to, first, Scientology and, second, Cruise. What how about insulting it is to Holmes and especially, Suri? I guess they are rallying aroud the poster boy and their Church.
Did you see that dorky picture of Holmes they had there? She looks like a love sick fan who delirious happy to be in the presence of a god.
Here is the link for anyone who wants read it:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22538821/
Battlemama
Jan 8, 2008 at 4:49 pm
I wonder if KH is really hating Nicole right now. Nicole got the position as Cruise’s wife at the height of his fame and two children. Now Nicole will have her bio baby as well. Holmes got Cruise as he was crashing down very fast, everyone seeing through all the lies, and questions the paternity of her child.
Libraesque2007
Jan 8, 2008 at 6:21 pm
mama, you hit it right on the snout. I read recently where kh is quickly being perceived as tc’s bad luck charm. His unadulterated arrogance has nothing to do with her obviously, but from the minute they got together…the rate of his decline from A-List mega star has been the most dramatic I’ve ever witnessed..it’s shocking.
It explains why across the board die hard tc fans (what’s left of them in actual numbers….not the ones who defend using 17 different screen names) are absolute jolie-pitt haters. The J-P’s are on top of the world for all the right reasons, and the tc fans have had to watch his tobaggon ride down to the bottom of the barrel…it’s been non-stop since May 2005.
I can’t EVEN imagine what NK must have thought when she heard kh was pregnant….knowing that tc has never, and will never have bio kids because he can’t. She must have had an overwhelming sense of de’javu!!!!
My feeling is you can run but you can’t hide from the good Lord above. NK had the good sense to get out….now she’s being blessed with her own little angel…….that and this morton book may explain kh’s dramatic weight loss….who knows
Carla
Jan 8, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Whoa - I saw recent pictures of katie, and she looks horrible. I mean, she is thinner, and has little or no makeup on. And she looks like she aged 25 years in the past 2. I can just hear it now - they will annoubce that she can’t have anymore kids so they will adopt. I wonder if Tom’s two adopted kids are test tube babies from another scientologist woman who was inseminated with frozen sperm from L.ron hubbard. Maybe they are bleeding a colony of kids are are all related.
Battlemama
Jan 9, 2008 at 9:24 am
Here is how someone is describing TC: “Three years ago, Tom Cruise was Hollywood’s own Midas. Now, he’s the gay Darth Vader of Scientology, whose idea of a hot time with his wife involves a needle, some anesthesia, and a lab. Wow. Tom Cruise would seem less crazy if he turned out to be the Zodiac Killer.”
I am still waiting for the media to comment about KH and how it will effect her image. I wonder how this will effect her new movie. Isn’t the premiere tonight or something?
Even if the press pulls the book, TC is suing $100 million from both Morton and the publisher, I think the damage has already been done. One thing i have heard is that libel is very hard to prove and win money for.
I guess since Cruise’s and Holmes’ movies aren’t making money, TC will keep suing to support their shopping habits and airplanes.
leo
Jan 9, 2008 at 9:28 am
I just ran across this article. Long, but very interesting information about Cruise and the “Church”.
http://www.bible.ca/scientology-poor-famous-members.htm
Battlemama
Jan 9, 2008 at 9:42 am
Something to lighten the day from perezhilton.
“At least she is older than 16.”
- George Clooney, when asked for his reaction to Nicole Kidman’s pregnancy, Monday night at the Critics’ Choice Awards
Battlemama
Jan 9, 2008 at 9:43 am
Leo, Thanks for the articles!! I read the last one when kh was pregnant because I did not know much about Scientology. It was a nice refresher.
Vianne
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:01 am
Did anyone notice when Tom and Katie were first together how she was always “patting” his back when he was hugging on her? That gesture always seemed to detract from the “how madly in love they are” PR.
lemon227
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:44 am
Hey everybody, on Just Jared, there’s a write-up about Tom Cruise being a “life saver.”
“On December 30, Tom was driving his Hummer near his home in Telluride, Colorado, with his wife, Katie Holmes, and his three children, Isabella, 15, Connor, 13, and Suri, 21 months. Tom, 45, saw a woman who was stranded when her vehicle ran off the road.”
“An onlooker says, “The police were waiting with the woman for a tow truck and all of a sudden, a Hummer pulled up and it was Tom Cruise!” He and his bodyguard helped push the woman’s car out of the snow. The famous family had spent the holiday week frolicking in the snow.”
“We ski. We have big dinners and laugh,” Katie says. “We love cooking. Tom’s really good in the kitchen. He makes great pasta carbonara and lemon pasta.”
What a guy. This guy should go in the business of “saving” people.
Battlemama
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:47 am
Oh crap, Libra, did you call this one or what!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!
Wonder if he has a police scanner or something. He heard it and loaded the family in the car for rescue service!!
Battlemama
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:52 am
I thought Connor and Bella were with their real Mom for the holidays. If they were then this is a LIE!!
Carla
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:53 am
He has. He saved his two adopted children, by adopting them in his scientology world. He saved Katie, by giving her a famous name and unlimited money potential. There is always a “driver helped by Tom Cruise” story, at least once a year. WHat a crock of shite.
Libraesque2007
Jan 9, 2008 at 11:11 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
miss cleo in da hooooooooooowse
no seriously….it didn’t take a psychic to know he’d “save”someone before the book came out
Libraesque2007
Jan 9, 2008 at 11:15 am
hey, weren’t his kids supposed to be with nicole during the holidays????
Carla
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:01 pm
That’s unclear as to where the other two kids were in Co. with them, and if Katie’s parents were with them as well. I guess that may take a little researching. Anyway, I didn’t think that Tom drove. I mean, they always have drivers to cart their scientoloy a s s e s around, in a padded coffin-like compartment, just in case aliens find them and send a missle their way or something. Gee, I wonder if the hummer was camouflaged?
Battlemama
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:17 pm
There is a pick of Cruise driving the HUmmer on Dec 30th. It was posted on JJ and somewhere else. I posted a link about Nicole or something somewhere and underneath the pic link there is a pic of Cruise and Holmes in the front of the Hummer. I will have to find the link again and repost since you guys didn’t look at it.
Battlemama
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Okay, here is the link:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/tags/tom-cruise
I wonder if we should question the cop incolved. Another Scientology fiegn in distress or maybe Cruise does have the scanner to check about what is going on. I can hear him saying “Oh, a rescue Op. Kate, load up the kids and lets go!”
catinthehat
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:29 pm
I’m truly amazed that his “advisors” continue with these inane stories — do they think people really believe this junk? The only part I do believe is that they were posing in their Hummer - undoubtedly it’s the 2008 version with all the bells and whistles. TC has become so crass about flaunting his excessive wealth and I personally believe it reflects a true lack of CLASS. I used to think so much better of him. Katie got swept away without truly appreciating what she was getting into. She is clearly a very unhappy woman and must obey her husband or risk having her child taken away for lengthy auditing sessions at undisclosed locations.
Battlemama
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Catinthehat: KH exploits Suri just as much as Cruise does!! She is just as guilty of hurting Suri as Cruise is. She also is always shopping and flaunting her wealth.
catinthehat
Jan 9, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Definitively agree that she is tacky about flaunting excess as well but I’m also think that Tom “forces” her to do a lot of things that she might not otherwise do (or want to do) that she now gets ragged on about. That’s why she’s so miserable.
leo
Jan 9, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Since Posh was voted the biggest fashion atrocity of the year by Mr. Blackwell, do you think Katie will continue to copy Posh, or did this backfire on Katie as well?
I believe it backfired.
Battlemama
Jan 9, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Kh was actually named one of the well dressed of the year. It may have helped that she has hardly seen Posh this year. So much for being inseparable bffs. I think Posh telling Cruise where to stick Scientology hasn’t helped the relationship.
I question the judging because some her looks, the Asian call girl look in Berlin with Cruise for one, is not very flattering.
I seriously questions these ‘fashion’ lists. There was one where Kh was named best dressed over the summer, but if you looked at the panel, Armani and another designer she was wearing for the judging were the judges. Let’s see–that would count as a bias!!
Battlemama
Jan 9, 2008 at 2:56 pm
The only thing I can say about the review–not very well done. I have read reviews before and just taught my daughter how to write one, and it is biased and contains nothing but fluff. It sounds like damage control from the Cruise Camp.
I have no doubt that Morton has an axe to grind and that he has his own bias, but some of this crap is so far fetched, that there has to be some basis to it. Morton also never says that Suri was conceived with L.Ron’s DNA, but that the faithful are saying that she was. BIG DIFFERENCE!
It was like Smith’s Hitler comment: Taken out of context.
Still bogles me that everyone is so worried about Cruise’s rep and that of COS, but no one says one word about KH and how she might be feeling. I guess its good because it will come in the ‘poor victim KH’ form.
She volunteered for all this and went threw with the wedding. She continues to lie for it and subjects her baby to it. Most mothers would protect their kids from this with their lives.
Now, she wants to put another kid through it. Sorry, but this is America and we are not the Taliban or some fundamentalist regime. I’d suffer whatever humiliation to get my kid out it. But the money is too good to part with for Ms. Holmes and that is dispicable. (I guess the call girl look is good for her. That is what she has become for Cruise and Scientology.)
candice
Jan 9, 2008 at 7:02 pm
I saw pics of nic and keith taking a walk on a bondi beach down here in aussie land and also at a museum. No sign of bella and connor so maybe they had already flown home. Who knows. You never see much of these kids no matter who they are with. The paps in australia is nothing like they are in america so it would probably be easy for them to blend in and leave un-noticed.
zagzag
Jan 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm
I can not believe that a writer can publish a book with such outrageous allegations! Only time will tell which of the allegations are true and which are not.
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