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Suri and Tom Cruise Leaving Hotel in France

by leora on June 23rd, 2007

OMG! Just when I think I’ve seen the cutest Suri pictures she goes and does some more waving to photographers. Love this kid!

Suri and Tom Cruise Leaving Hotel in France

Source Tags: tom cruise, suri cruise, baby, adorable

smartgurl23
Jun 23, 2007 at 9:11 am

Suri so CUTE
Dancer
Jun 23, 2007 at 10:05 am

Where’s Katie?
lemon227
Jun 23, 2007 at 10:43 am

I’m wondering why Katie left before they did? Seems sort of odd. JMO.
Leah
Jun 23, 2007 at 9:54 pm

She is super cute. I looooooooooooooove pics of her and I will never get tired of them. I am now coming around everyday to see if there are any new ones and I will squeeze everything to visit the site for that. Thanks webmistress. These pictures are too beautiful for words.

Tom looks really good! But Suri just steals the limelight, She is a born star.
Leah
Jun 23, 2007 at 9:56 pm

Had to see th pictures again and again, her wave is so cute and she is going to be super tall. Her facial expressions too are priceless.
Libraesque2007
Jun 25, 2007 at 10:11 am

my god, do they ever put shoes on this kid???? She is totally adorable, but way way way too big to be 14 months old, even Heidi Klums 22 month old is much smaller than Suri, and BOTH her parents are tall
Claire Cruise
Jun 26, 2007 at 11:31 am

Suri, I LOVE that dress! You look so snazzy in pink.
Carla
Jun 26, 2007 at 12:40 pm

Libraeqsue:

I think we are looking at two different kids here.
Carla
Jun 26, 2007 at 12:42 pm

This one here (long faced) is shy and sucks on her figures all the time. The other one (square faced, wide nose) and shown in the top headline, is the outgoing one.
Carla
Jun 26, 2007 at 12:55 pm

Libraesque:

I read that article. Pretty scary.
Regarding the wonky eye, that’s what I was trying to point out: one kid has it (long faced), whereas the other kid doesn’t. Do you also see the possibility of two different kids here, or does the one kid have the ability to change facial expressions, like a snake?
Carla
Jun 26, 2007 at 1:00 pm

In the last picture here, when she is smiling and looking at TC, she’s saying, “My dad is such an as_ hole!”
Libraesque2007
Jun 26, 2007 at 1:08 pm

In other photos she definitely looks like a different kid. One day she had a long egg shaped head and the next day she had a very round chubby face. Weird.
And her eyes look more Asian in some pics than in others
Libraesque2007
Jun 26, 2007 at 1:10 pm

am I the only one that finds it creepy and gross that he has his arm UNDER her dress???? bizarre
Carla
Jun 26, 2007 at 2:14 pm

Libraesque:

I was just about to type that, when you mentioned that first, about his arm under her dress. I wouldn’t want a strange man, other than her real dad, to do that.
Carla
Jun 26, 2007 at 2:16 pm

So, do you think it’s the same kid, or are there two different ones, like I pointed out long before these French photos? ANd did Katie leave earlier with the other kid, so that she can meet up with the real daddy?
Libraesque2007
Jun 26, 2007 at 2:56 pm

I think you may be right, and given that Claire’s stories are not sounding so nutty now that we know tc is a Satanist
Libraesque2007
Jun 26, 2007 at 2:56 pm

It IS odd that they left seperately
Leah
Jun 26, 2007 at 4:29 pm

People, ummm, how do I say this delicately…..hmmmm GET A LIFE!
Libraesque2007
Jun 26, 2007 at 4:50 pm

uuuummm people, mind your own business.
I’m “talking ” to Carla NOT YOU
Libraesque2007
Jun 26, 2007 at 5:05 pm

hey Carla, did you see recently on one of the celebrity news shows that Suri came in third place for cutest celebrity baby?
Shiloh was number one, and David, Madonna’s soon to be son was number two.
Carla
Jun 26, 2007 at 9:27 pm

Libraesque:

Sorry that I didn’t answer you sooner, I was out tutoring.

Anyway, I’m surprised Suri came in third. SHe’s cute (sometimes) and not all that cuter than other celeb babies. SHiloh is a very beautiful little girl, whose facial photos don’t morph into different shapes, like Suri’s. Tiger Wood’s baby is absolutely gorgeous, and at a few weeks old, is not hiding for many months from the press.
Carla
Jun 26, 2007 at 9:36 pm

I think the reason why they kep her barefooted is to have control over her. SHe can’t run far on the sharp pebbles, and they have complete control over her buy carrying her around.

Mama is not with them because her only role as a mother is to be seen with her daughter in photos, and play with her at the beach. Beyond that, she’s not that close to her.

Maybe the mama has gone off to a fertility clinic to get pumped up with more baby juice, from some unknown donor.
Carla
Jun 27, 2007 at 7:54 am

Hey Claire Cruise:

Why would there be three different kids here? What’s the reason for not presenting the same one all the time?
amy
Jun 27, 2007 at 9:00 am

perhaps suri isn’t actually even a real baby, and the reason tom’s hand is so far up her little dress is that she is an elaborate and expensive ventriloquest baby doll!!
katie must of taken the real suri(gate baby) with her when she left..
i am glad someone else mentioned that wonky eye, i didn’t want to appear to be cruel!
Liz
Jun 27, 2007 at 9:14 am

Ey Carla, why are you trying to involve Claire into your manic conversation. I would also suggest you to get a live before you go fully nuts - but I think it’s already too late… You are some pitiful creatures…well well well…hopelessly devoted to talking rubbish. Others would call it a strange hobby, I call it sick. Maybe you should go look for someone to help you if you’re really serious with what you say… very sad. But hey, believe and say what ever you want…I even start to find it some kind of entertaining ;). Maybe you should write a book about this mental rubbish. Have fun :).
amy
Jun 27, 2007 at 9:21 am

Liz - i suggest you start treating your fellow posters with a bit of respect.
Leah
Jun 27, 2007 at 9:38 am

Funny that all those Jolie fans voting over and over again for Shiloh did not buy all the ‘a mughty heart tickets.’ Shiloh looks like a boy, not even a handsome boy. Her mouth is open all the time and her lips look weird. Suri is an Angel and if I were given either babies, I would take Suri you would have to give me a million dollars extra to take Shiloh, mainly to pay for the mental insititution she is defintely going to need.
amy
Jun 27, 2007 at 9:45 am

well, personally, i would want THREE million dollars extra to take suri, as that child is going to need life-long counselling when she eventually finds her daddy in bed with his pilot lover, learns how her mother was simply an over ambitious b-list tv actress who agreed to marry and act as a beard for ten years to a bi-sexual she thought she could ‘change’, and then there will be the adjusting when she is finally introduced to her biological father.

PLUS it is going to cost a fortune to get her de-programmed from the cult that is forced upon her.
amy
Jun 27, 2007 at 9:46 am

well, personally, i would want THREE million dollars extra to take suri, as that child is going to need life-long counselling when she eventually finds her daddy in bed with his pilot lover, learns how her mother was simply an over ambitious b-list tv actress who agreed to marry and act as a beard for ten years to a bi-s e x ual she thought she could ‘change’, and then there will be the adjusting when she is finally introduced to her biological father.

PLUS it is going to cost a fortune to get her de-programmed from the cult that is forced upon her.
Libraesque2007
Jun 27, 2007 at 11:45 am

leah, you’re projecting. It was Cruise fans who were caught red handed sending over 14,000 votes from two different computers.
Shiloh has her mouth open???? What does that even mean???
amy
Jun 27, 2007 at 11:48 am

POLL RIGGING: TOM CRUISE IS A CHEAT - DESPERATE FOR PUBLIC APPROVAL/POPULARITY

PROOF:-

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192197,00.html

oh, and if you don’t like this source, there are many many many other sites reporting the same incident…it WAS reported AND taken very seriously…how embarrassing for him!!
Libraesque2007
Jun 27, 2007 at 12:03 pm

how completely pathetic, but VERY common TC fan behavior I think
Libraesque2007
Jun 27, 2007 at 12:04 pm

amy I had heard that they traced the IP’s to the Scientology Celebrity Centre
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
A “religion” having a Celebrity Center!!!
hahahahahahahahaha
amy
Jun 27, 2007 at 12:15 pm

i don’t know why that surprises you lib - i mean they now call a celebrity their ‘messiah’ don’t they - say no more!!
Tia
Jun 27, 2007 at 1:33 pm

Lol Leah, that is so funny!!! I’ll pay money to take Suri.
Tia
Jun 27, 2007 at 1:36 pm

At least Tom Cruise’s fans did help his movie make $400m! what did Branglina fans do? Maybe they can only afford to pay for their internet connection bills. lol
Libraesque2007
Jun 27, 2007 at 1:47 pm

yes amidst accusations that the COS in LA bought 900 tickets to MI3, I believe that was reported by a theatre employee
interesting
Tia
Jun 27, 2007 at 1:51 pm

900 tickets? are you sure about that?
Libraesque2007
Jun 27, 2007 at 1:51 pm

MI3 failed by 20,000 to even gross domestically what the budget was of 150, 000
Tia
Jun 27, 2007 at 1:54 pm

Oh well, at least he has his fans and COS who according to you bought 900 ticket which comes up to around $9,000. World wide taking was $400m. Branglina still have internet fans who can only afford their bills. :D
Libraesque2007
Jun 27, 2007 at 2:45 pm

what????
what a childish comment
A Mighty Heart is a very heavy film apparently, not everyones cup of tea.
Believe me I will be here laughing my head off at all you fans when Mad Money completely tanks, or maybe goes straight to video
I wonder why tc doesn’t save that poor girl from her non-existent career and put her in a movie
Claire Cruise
Jun 27, 2007 at 3:17 pm

Oh my goodness, Carla… I do see what you mean!

What I had been wondering was why all the photos of “the longer-faced, shy” Suri had lighter hair. My assumption was that the difference was in the lighting.

Never in a million years would I dream that one of these little girls is Suri’s NON-identical triplet sister, Sophie!

Even at this age, they still look almost identical! I can’t believe it!

Sophie is the darker-haired, more outgoing one in the first headline. You know, the one running around in the pink bathing suit. Her biological father, Chris Caputo, has darker hair and is far less sensitive than Tom Cruise is.
Claire Cruise
Jun 27, 2007 at 3:33 pm

Libraesque2007, you still have me laughing over your comment about Tom Cruise having his hand up Suri’s dress!

Speaking as a person who was molested as a child, I honestly do not think the way these photos display the placement of Tom’s hand indicates anything inappropriate.

Haven’t you ever held a big baby girl in a dress with one arm? Gravity naturally pulled the dress down over his hand and arm.

It’s because I know Tom very well that I know that is the very last thing he would ever do to any child.

Such horrid inappropriateness was done to both Tom and myself throughout childhood, greatly infuriating the both of us. In adulthood, such pain and anguish has always driven us in our extreme diligence to respect and guard the physical boundaries of all children.
Claire Cruise
Jun 27, 2007 at 3:34 pm

No matter what the cost.
Claire Cruise
Jun 27, 2007 at 3:36 pm

I do not think that any one of us have seen Suri and Sophie’s BOY triplet… yet.

He’s HUGE… and he has thick BLACK hair, remember?!
amy
Jun 27, 2007 at 3:46 pm

lib, forget it, you are debating with fools…even when provided with PROOF they will blindly believe manufactured hype…

different genre’s of films are expected to generate different percentages of returns..

the ‘fans’ should have a good look at some of tom’s films - eyes wide shut for example, a film of which even the DIRECTOR was publicly recorded as saying how dreadful and embarrassing it was, (i actually think he DIED of embarrassment and regret over the actors he had cast)
and what about katie’s film offerings?? hmm…let’s see, shall we compare box office takings for the film in which she played the presidents daughter with boyfriend probs? or the b grade horror film she was in??
if people INSIST on comparing these COUPLES then they should compare these COUPLES box office takings i think….lets see who comes up trumps then hey????
oh, i did enjoy katie in ‘go’ though….
and don’t try to add batman returns to any box office takings as that film is a franchise which owed NONE of its success to a supporting actor/ress…..lets compare LEAD ROLE AGAINST LEAD ROLE shall we????
Libraesque2007
Jun 27, 2007 at 4:21 pm

Katies box office is embarrassing. It really will be SO interesting to see how the “new” TC will do at the box office, now that he isn’t connected to MI3 or a large studio.
I love all the controversy with Valkyrie. It’s awesome how everyone saw right through tc’s crap, purposely trying to play a German hero to have himself portrayed in a different light to a country of people who hate him!!!
So typically arrogant
So typically Cruise!!
amy
Jun 27, 2007 at 4:39 pm

well lib - the fact remains…IF the fanatics persist in comparing tomkat to brangelina…let them do so properly…angie vs katie (sorry-kate, she is now a child bearing woman) and brad(1 divorce) vs tom (2divorces and counting)
oh, and while we are comparing, let us compare offspring too hmmmm????
who was dry at night first?? bella or maddox??
who could count to ten first???? connor or z???
who knew the name of their biological daddy first?? shiloh or suri???
see….chalk and bloody cheese guys!!
stop embarrassing yourselves….
oh, and tell tom to get his hands OUTTA suri’s skirt, it is indecent!!
Libraesque2007
Jun 27, 2007 at 5:01 pm

yea, like I said before I know the reason why the tc fans have to constantly TRY to compare these two couples, on every single thread I’ve ever seen.
Because ang and brad have taken tom cruises place as THE IT COUPLE and they can’t stand it. They can’t stand the fact that B&A are an actual couple, not a contract couple
that Shiloh is so clearly Brads, and there is nothing but controversy re: Suri’s real father
that brad is considered to be the hunk of all hunks, voted sexiest man twice, and has NEVER been accuse of being a f a g, much less had countless people try to come forward about that and gay rumors plaging him for 20 years
OH, and lets not forget, B&A don’t belong to some bizarre cult that practices Satanism
Oh and lets not forget that B&A are considered cherished humanitarians worldwide

I can TOTALLY see why tc fans constantly TRY to compare, but it’s really just embarrassing
And now their beloved Forbes list even has Elton John above TC.
Libraesque2007
Jun 27, 2007 at 5:04 pm

yea, like I said before I know the reason why the tc fans have to constantly TRY to compare these two couples, on every single thread I’ve ever seen.
Because ang and brad have taken tom cruises place as THE IT COUPLE and they can’t stand it. They can’t stand the fact that B&A are an actual couple, not a contract couple
that Shiloh is so clearly Brads, and there is nothing but controversy re: Suri’s real father
that brad is considered to be the hunk of all hunks, voted s e x iest man twice, and has NEVER been accuse of being a f a g, much less had countless people try to come forward about that and g a y rumors plaging him for 20 years
OH, and lets not forget, B&A don’t belong to some bizarre cult that practices Satan^sm
Oh and lets not forget that B&A are considered cherished humanitarians worldwide

I can TOTALLY see why tc fans constantly TRY to compare, but it’s really just embarrassing
And now their beloved Forbes list even has Elton John above TC.
Libraesque2007
Jun 27, 2007 at 5:50 pm

amy, have you seen the poll over at US?
40% are for Shiloh, and only 22% for Suri.
I can hear it now, all the fans will claim polls don’t count.
It’s so pathetic how they are all for something until it doesn’t produce the results they want

Even on this site Shiloh got more votes than Suri….on Tomkatcrazy!!!!!
Claire Cruise
Jun 28, 2007 at 7:18 am

Now that I’ve had a bit more time to examine these photos, it’s as clear as day to me that these are two different little girls.

The one pictured under this headline is the real, bona fide Suri. She has lighter hair, softer features and a quieter, more reserved manner. Her eyes have a slightly more asian shape to them, as well.

If you go through all these latest photos, you will notice that Suri tends to place her head upon proud dad, Tom’s shoulder as she basks in the attention others give to her.

Suri also looks a bit more like me.

I believe it is Sophie whom we are more familiar with, however. I think Sophie looks more like Katie Holmes. And, just like Katie, Sophie is a bigger girl. Just compare their bare feet.
Claire Cruise
Jun 28, 2007 at 7:21 am

Suri’s bangs (fringe) are (is) also longer than Sophie’s.
Carla
Jun 28, 2007 at 5:01 pm

Claire Cruise:

I have to say that I tend to agree with you. However, you failed to answer my question that I posed to you before. Why are there at least two different kids, that are posed as one Suri? WHat’s the point?
Libraesque2007
Jun 28, 2007 at 5:19 pm

I’ve seen your picture on Myspace Claire, Suri looks nothing like you
Carla
Jul 3, 2007 at 6:56 am

Libraesque:

I’m convinced that there are a couple of different kids here though. Even some of the comments from various posters indicate that they notice differences too. Like when one poster said, “In one picture Suri looks like katie, and in another she looks like Tom.”
Libraesque2007
Jul 3, 2007 at 9:48 am

well what struck me as odd is that she very distinctly has different length bangs (suri) It’s very obvious.
Carla
Jul 3, 2007 at 8:44 pm

So, if mommy Katie had to leave sooner than Tom, why then, didn’t she take Suri with her? Why would she leave Suri with Tom? What’s always wrong with this picture?
Libraesque2007
Jul 5, 2007 at 9:39 am

carla I couldn’t agree more, there is nothing but constant speculation on why this couple is so strange and so “different” than other couples
Remember a couple weeks after she “had” Suri and she went to Paris with Posh, without the kid???? Can you imagine ANY other hollywood mom doing that? No.
Jennifer
Jul 6, 2007 at 11:03 am

TOM CRUISE WORSHIPS GOD
Jennifer
Jul 6, 2007 at 11:11 am

If you want to know what Scientologists are really like why don’t you read some of their profiles on myspace. They are Totally awesome people who are willing to help anyone out(check Kate Ceberano, juicy princess the way to happiness, Youth fo human rights…. All this bad stuff that you promote about Tom here is totally FALSE….Where are we at in this world if we knock people who are our BEST rolemodels?
Jennifer
Jul 6, 2007 at 11:16 am

Where are we at in this world if abuse and lies is accepted over TRUTH and FREEDOM of SPEECH.

I personally think Leora and Libraesqueare in cahoots. …..Yeah you’ve got people talking but not about ANYTHING worthwile really.

This is just a place for gossip and rumour to be nastily spread around the world.
Jennifer
Jul 6, 2007 at 11:21 am

If a commenter shows glimpses of sanity,and brilliance in thier comments then sadly you are treated like a looney here and webmiss erases your comments.

BOOOO BOOO BOOOO .
Tia
Jul 6, 2007 at 12:33 pm

HI Jennifer,
I haven’t seen you for a while. Do you visit any other Tom or Katie forum? I love reading your comments. Very well put!!
Tia
Jul 6, 2007 at 12:41 pm

Jennifer, do you’ve a link to Kate Ceberano, at myspace?
Tia
Jul 6, 2007 at 12:43 pm

Actually I just googled Kate Ceberano and found her page on myspace. thanks
Libraesque2007
Jul 6, 2007 at 1:40 pm

OOOOH SNAP!!!!

Priceless!!!

Tia, you just answered yourself, which means you’re really Jennifer

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I KNEW it!!!!!

hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
Libraesque2007
Jul 6, 2007 at 1:53 pm

and your new name is TIAFER

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Tia
Jul 6, 2007 at 5:40 pm

Lib, do I even care if you think I am Jennifer? NO!!! And why would I ask question I know the answer too? Did you not get the memo that Leora set up a logging system? So How in the hell did I get Jennifer’s passwords? Not to mention have you been reading our comments? She is from Australia and I’m from England…you know what? what’s the point explaining things to you? I know you just accuse people of posting with a different name when you run out of things to say…for a forty something years old you sure ain’t smart, but then again it might be the menopause kicking in!!! hahahahahahahahahaha
Tia
Jul 6, 2007 at 5:46 pm

Just google “Kate Ceberano myspace” and you’ll get the answer yourself.
Libraesque2007
Jul 6, 2007 at 6:11 pm

Tia, shut up
you asked “jennifer” a question and then three seconds later you answered yourself, posting as Tia

It’s not about knowing her password, you simply signed up as Tia, and signed up again as jennifer, you created two seperate accounts, that’s all

You got caught, live with it

for someone you claim isn’t very smart, I CAUGHT YOU didn’t I????
and anne, anna, ana, aka Helen

and all the rest on here
Libraesque2007
Jul 6, 2007 at 6:13 pm

and I’m not clicking on some FREAK $cientologists myspace page
Tia
Jul 7, 2007 at 3:05 am

OMG Lib, why don’t you read my comments again? I asked Jennifer a question and in the mean time I googled the question and found the answer myself and I said…”Actually I just googled Kate Ceberano and found her page on myspace. thanks” so where in my comment sounds like I was being Jennifer? If I had Jennifer’s account and I was trying to deceive anyone why couldn’t I just answer the question as Jennifer and why in the God’s name would I get out of this. Woman go take your menopause pills!!!! And who asked you to click on anything? Please woman get a life.
Leah
Jul 7, 2007 at 8:25 am

Nice to see you guys back here. Been posting on another site which is really cool. But sadly I cannot post it here because it is against the rules. Most of those fans who used to post here are there.
Leah
Jul 7, 2007 at 8:27 am

Germany’s federal film fund will give millions in subsidies to a movie about a German who was executed for trying to kill Hitler. The project’s been controversial because of Scientology member Tom Cruise’s involvement.

The German Federal Film Fund (DFFF) has approved subsidies worth 4.8 million euros ($6.5 million) for the film “Valkyrie.”

“The application was submitted, the criteria for the grant were fulfilled and the project was approved,” said DFFF project head Christine Berg, according to the Reuters news service.

The money comes from a new 60-million-euro annual subsidy budget for films by the German government. To qualify, projects have to involve a German producer and be at least partially made in Germany. The subsidy for “Valkyrie” is higher than the total budget for most German films, according to Reuters.
amy
Jul 9, 2007 at 5:08 am

tom has now had TWO different attempts to film BLOCKED in germany…this money mentioned above merely comes from a GRANT which is available to ANYONE who meets the qualifying criteria..which this film simply does do…end of…the FACT remains that an entire NATION LOATHES tom so much in the first place…and it is entirely due to SCIENTOLOGY…

i am sure there are COUNTLESS websites proclaiming the ‘good’ scientology does for people, they are set up by scientologists themselves in the first place…

to be truly informed surely it is a good idea to read a broad range of information about this cult and including that of the damage they have done to many many lives as well as the propoganda they put online….

perhaps it is just me, but i like to know both sides of the story before i make up my own mind…

sure, scientologist will help people out …FOR A FEE…..

and by the way tom HIMSELF ADMITS PROUDLY that he DOESN’T worship god….
Hana
Jul 9, 2007 at 5:51 am

Amy, yes the money comes from GRANT which is available to ANYONE but is this case they gave an extra $1,088,000 more than the required minimum. The decision to provide extra funding for the movie may or may not have been political.

About Scientology for once I agree with you, people should find out both sides of the story before they make up their own mind… BUT you and LIB are the last people I’ll find out my info about Scientology from.
You see you two go on about all kind of gossip that are not true about this family, Such as Suri’s age, Suri not being Tom’s, calling Suri all sort of names and you go on about gossips that have been prove wrong and yet you expect people to believe you about Scientology?! I don’t think so!!!
amy
Jul 9, 2007 at 6:13 am

i don’t expect anyone to ‘believe’ me hana, as i said, i personally feel people should research BOTH sides of ANY story before drawing their own INFORMED opinion..that’s all…

as for the ‘gossip’ lib and i go on about…isn’t it simply that…GOSSIP..??

as for the names i have called suri…the fact remains til the day she dies that her parents were not married when she was born so she will live and die as a b astar d … same as lots of other people all over the world have done and will do…

i don’t think she is tom’s biological child, end of, but i do consider him to be her father, again, something that happens to many others around the world…

i personally feel that the decision from the german goverment was politically motivated…lets face it, they don’t want to be accused of religious discrimination do they - despite the fact that they do not class scientology as a religion in the first place…

if it were any other country making a stance against something they have classified as a DANGEROUS CULT then i think the outcome would of been different…
amy
Jul 9, 2007 at 7:17 am

jennifer - you posted the following:

“If a commenter shows glimpses of sanity,and brilliance in thier comments then sadly you are treated like a looney here and webmiss erases your comments.”

I can’t see how that is correct as ALL my posts STAY online!!

gee, even some of YOURS make it onscreen…

lighten up…she deletes the comments which are nasty, personal and directed towards OTHER commenters on here…if people start being nasty towards others then their comments will be removed … that is why mine STAY and other people’s DON’T…it really is that simple!

you mention ‘freedom of speech’, please, practise what you preach….

and also, and i am not being sarcastic i am genuinely puzzled here…WHY/HOW is tom cruise one of our ‘best role models’??
amy
Jul 9, 2007 at 9:34 am

comment posted above:-

“If you want to know what Scientologists are really like why don’t you read some of their profiles on myspace. They are Totally awesome people who are willing to help anyone out”

mmm….gee they are SUCH totally awesome people who are willing to help anyone EXCEPT their own family out :-

Scientologists parents deny their daughter treatment which leads to her murdering her father and sister

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=122354
Libraesque2007
Jul 9, 2007 at 10:31 am

Tia, here’s your conversation with yourself

Jennifer, do you’ve a link to Kate Ceberano, at myspace?

Actually I just googled Kate Ceberano and found her page on myspace. thanks.

you posed a question to Jennifer, and then answered it and said “thank you”

you got caught, live with it
Tia
Jul 9, 2007 at 12:59 pm

Lib, If I pretended to be Jennifer to answer Tia’s question…why would I say Thanks?

Hello anybody there? Let me put this in a wording you might be able to understand….after my question I came back and said actually I found the answer myself nevertheless thanks. Is this clear enough for you?!
Tia
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:02 pm

Amy and Hana, since you said people should read both side of the story here the other side of the story to what AMY posted.
http://www.thewest.com.au/aapstory.aspx?StoryName=398593
Libraesque2007
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:06 pm

Eight percent chose Angelina Jolie over boyfriend Brad Pitt, 2 percent. Newlyweds Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes tied at 2 percent.

Rounding out the worst celebrity role model category were Cruise, 9 percent;
Jolie and Cruise were the only celebrities to land on both the best and worst lists. But more people named Jolie best celebrity role model, and more people named Cruise worst
Libraesque2007
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:15 pm

that was directed at whoever made the comment that TC is the best role model
HE IS NOT
He was 6 percent BELOW AJ and made THE WORST ROLE MODEL list also

Let me guess…………you now don’t believe in polls since TC is hitting all the worst and is now below everyone you have been comparing him to and saying he’s “better” than.

He was THREE percentage points ABOVE Michael Richards on the WORST list!!!!!!

And let me just cut you off at the pass, this was a TELEPHONE poll, so don’t try to start with the “it was rigged” crap, which we all know ONLY the Cruise fans have done and been CAUGHT at
Libraesque2007
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:20 pm

Tia, of course the COS is denying they were members. They denied fault in the Lisa McPherson case also

Despite her obvious and urgent medical needs, the lawsuit says, the church bypassed nearby Morton Plant Hospital and took McPherson 20 miles away to Columbia/HCA New Port Richey hospital for treatment by a Scientologist physician.
She arrived dead at the hospital on Dec. 5, 1995.
An autopsy report shows McPherson died of a blood clot brought on by “severe dehydration” and bed rest.
The church disputes those findings.
Tia
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:24 pm

Where is the link to the poll???
Libraesque2007
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:25 pm

and lets not forget about Jesse Prince, who stabbed his mother to death because he was denied medication
Libraesque2007
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:26 pm

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/12/28/134458.shtml?s=ic
Tia
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:33 pm

LOL……….no wonder you didn’t post the link. That is so old news!!!! We actually discussed the poll here back then. Thanks anyway.
Libraesque2007
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:45 pm

please provide a link to that discussion, AND a link to a more recent poll which states that TC is the TOP celeb role model, as that poll is from Dec 2006
amy
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:50 pm

tia - thanks for the link -

unfortunately, and i don’t mean this in anyway to be rude, it isn’t the kind of thing i was talking about…the comments given in this link were provided by a member of the church of scientology - i prefer more unbiased information to make my decisions on…such as the case of lisa macpherson …very shocking story…

what i DID find interesting is how quickly the ‘church’ is eager to disassociate themselves from yet ANOTHER scandal in this vein (ie lack of proper medication for seriously psychotic mental health patients leading to death/murders)
Tia
Jul 9, 2007 at 1:54 pm

I’m not going to look through the comments for the past 7 months to prove it. Why do I need a recent poll? I didn’t claim there is a better poll!
But if you ask me personally to me Tom is a better role model. :) And at the end of the day these people are actors and they main job is to get people to watch their movie so why don’t we wait and see which one of them get a more audience when it comes to their craft.
Libraesque2007
Jul 9, 2007 at 2:02 pm

Typical.
Please don’t ask for a link again if you will not do the same.

I see the subject is now attempting to be changed since TC was the WORST role model, and now we’re switching subjects to box office dollars??????
Tia
Jul 9, 2007 at 2:08 pm

Amy from my understanding its only hearsay at the moment so why don’t we wait ans see the outcome. After all the mother is alive and she might live another day to tell why her daughter wasn’t taking medication. What we have now is this…

“He (Mark Cross clinical director) said she had been diagnosed with a psychiatric illness late last year, BUT follow-up from Bankstown Hospital’s mental health team had APPARENTLY been declined by her parents owing to “their ALLEGED Scientology beliefs”. She had told him her parents did not want her to take her prescribed drugs.”

So all they have is the word of the patient who at the time claimed the reason she declined treatment was “She had told him her parents did not want her to take her prescribed drugs.”

And when you said read both side of the story this is a the other side I chose to read and accept….

Although Scientology has a strong objection to the use of anti-depressant drugs which it says are “prescribed like candy”, a spokeswoman said the church would never interfere with an individual’s medical treatment.

“We would encourage them to see a medical doctor and get a proper diagnosis,” spokesperson Vicki Dunstan said.

“The church would tell the person to follow the medical advice of a doctor, we would never interfere with the advice of a doctor. That’s between the parishioner and the doctor.

“Any scientologist would have to make their own judgment on that.

“We don’t interfere with parishioners’ lives to that extent.”
amy
Jul 9, 2007 at 2:24 pm

tia - like i said, i wasn’t trying to be personal or start an argument with you over this one…
it IS true that the words apparent and alleged were used in court - which is STANDARD procedure in court cases…

you are free to believe the scientologist representative if you choose to…

i have read many many many cases eerily similar to this one, where the scieno reps have wheeled out the same old line…a line which CONTRADICTS their own training, and also the statements of many many ex members of that cult…

i genuinely hope the mother DOES pull through and also that her daughter receives the help she so desperately needs….you are right - we will have to wait to see how it all ends up…

my point was, it is always important to bear in mind the source of information - is it biased? does it have something to gain? does it have something to hide? etc…..
Claire Cruise
Jul 9, 2007 at 2:37 pm

I haven’t read these particular comments for a while.

Carla, I believe the whole point behind having two of my unidentical girl triplets sired by two different biological fathers to double as Suri is GENETICS.

They are showcasing the amazing coincidence of how much alike two of my NATURALLY CONCEIVED non-identical triplets look.

Not very many naturally conceived non-identical triplets look that much alike.

Clearly, we are all related. Suri’s biological father, Tom, is my cousin and Sophie and Stoune’s biological father, Chris Caputo, is my nephew.

Do you suppose that I will be making my debut together with our BOY, Stoune?
Claire Cruise
Jul 9, 2007 at 2:42 pm

Libraesque2007: Never have I claimed that Suri (or Sophie or Stoune) looks like me.

The only feature they obviously share with me is my rare gray-blue eyes, although my eyes are round (not asian-shaped).
Claire Cruise
Jul 9, 2007 at 2:43 pm

And, as I have mentioned previously, it is genetically IMPOSSIBLE for a green-eyed woman like Katie Holmes to be the biological mother of any blue-eyed child.
Libraesque2007
Jul 9, 2007 at 2:47 pm

Claire, to quote you
“Suri also looks a bit more like me.”
Libraesque2007
Jul 9, 2007 at 3:19 pm

Claire this is from Yahoo Q&A

http://museum.thetech.org/ugenetics/eyec…

here is an eye colour predictor.
I don’t have kids but my mother is a blue eyed child of a green eyed and brown eyed parent, a third of the kids are blue eyed, a third brown and a third green and it’s all the same 2 parents i swear!

Basically, Claire, we would have to have the eye color of both KH’s parents and TC’s parents to get an accurate answer, although from the poster on Yahoo, it seems your info is incorrect

Katie-hazel eyes
Tom-hazel eyes
Suri- APPEARS to have blue eyes, there has never, to my knowledge ever been a close up to accurately see the eye color
mynameal
Jul 10, 2007 at 9:25 am

SURI IS GOING TO BE TALL LIKE HER MOM HAVE YOU SEEN THAT BABY’S FEET THEY ARE HUGE LOL NICE PITURES

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