Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes

149 opinions for Pictures of Katie Holmes and Suri Out Shopping in New York City

• NG
  May 5, 2008 at 3:50 pm

  I love the way Suri looks in the color red. Her little doll is precious. She is a cutie. I don’t think she likes wearing anything that is confining like coats, sweaters, or closed shoes.

• Tuna Subway
  May 5, 2008 at 4:25 pm

  Beautiful pic!

• No one Special
  May 5, 2008 at 4:29 pm

  Caption should be: Katie posing for the cameras and trying to prove she is a devoted mom.

  Suri is cute. She is cute in red!!

  Suri is probably wondering why all these people are taking her pics and mom feels a need to pose for them with her in her arms. Poor kid!! She can’t be just a two-year-old!!

  This is so reminiscent of January, when KH was posing for the cameras and had so much going for her. Then it all came crashing in. Maybe things will go better this time for her.

• No one Special
  May 5, 2008 at 4:31 pm

  Were they shopping or was Katie just posing outside the store? What was the temp in NYC? Everyone is in long sleeves and coats and Suri looks ready for a trip to the beach on a hot day.

• PuckHappy
  May 5, 2008 at 4:49 pm

  Katie must be burning up in her sweater, coat and jeans. It was about 60F, I think. No matter the weather Suri should have shoes on. What IF Katie had to set her down on the DIRTY pavement. ick!

• concerned mom
  May 5, 2008 at 5:01 pm

  I think a good rule of thumb is if the mommy wears a coat or jacket, the child should probably do so as well. Beautiful pic tho..

• PuckHappy
  May 5, 2008 at 5:34 pm

  “A sweater is a garment the child wears when the mother feels chilly.”

• mere
  May 5, 2008 at 5:50 pm

  The World Health Organization promotes breastfeeding until the age of 3. Certainly getting milk in 2-3 bottles a day for a total of 10 minutes of drinking can’t harm a baby if the WHO is saying that babies up until the age of 3 are still “on the breast”. We women need to look beyond the cultural boundaries of American tradition to realize that the trend of bottle weaning at 12 months IS NOT a trend everywhere, nor does it have a negative connotation. Truly, where did any of us learn that babies “should wean” from a bottle at 12 months? Think about it. Where did you learn that? From OTHER people’s judgements! Whatever is functional and healthy for a child to drink needed nutrients is a-okay for that child. It is a mother’s responsibility to feed her child in the way that is best for that child…and not others’ decision to make.

  Suri is probably sleeveless because she wanted her sweater off while shopping inside. They are probably walking all of 10 feet to a limo! Big deal!

  We should be celebrating the fact that Katie TAKES HER SHOPPING versus leaves her at home with a nanny. We need to be supporting fellow women by looking at the glass as half-full rather than half-empty. Come on ladies! :)

• concerned mom
  May 5, 2008 at 6:29 pm

  Pretty much Puck. I guess if they just came from Colorado, it might feel warm in NY at 60 degrees. I know when we are freezing here in FL and it is in the 50’s folks from the north are walking around in sandals and shorts. Still think if Mom puts on a jacket, need to have kiddy in one as well tho.

• Marie
  May 5, 2008 at 7:05 pm

  Katie - are you going to carry the little girl on your hip all her life?

• Tuna Subway
  May 5, 2008 at 8:42 pm

  Why you gotta exaggerate? She is only two years old. Angelina Jolie pics came out, like, yesterday, and she is carrying Shiloh even though she is preggo. Now, just because the kid has lots of hair, does not mean she isn’t little. She isn’t 5 years old. She has only been on this planet for 2 small years, and she still says, Dada.

• jenna
  May 5, 2008 at 9:00 pm

  Little puzzled about her need to drink from a bottle. The child needs to be weaned off and begin the sippy cup process.

• concerned mom
  May 5, 2008 at 9:15 pm

  Well I think what she actually says according to Tom, is “Dada Cruise” which I find a bit unusual. But then way back when they were in Germany months and months ago Katie said she said, “Good morning Berlin” every day. But she is one well traveled tot. Her passport is already probably adding pages. So who knows?

• Tuna Subway
  May 5, 2008 at 9:19 pm

  Tom said he does not know how she comes up with those things. Lol , Dada Cruise! That is cute, but maybe she hears his friends call him Cruise or something, and that is how she got it.

• Mary
  May 5, 2008 at 9:28 pm

  Suri does drink from a sippy cup……………there are pics of her with such a cup. She’ll come completely off the bottle eventually, all kids do. :)

• looika
  May 5, 2008 at 9:38 pm

  Love love love Suri. She is so beautiful.

• Priscilla
  May 5, 2008 at 10:01 pm

  Beautiful pictures. They both look so happy.
  Perfect mother and daughter shot.

• DonnerParty
  May 5, 2008 at 10:08 pm

  Yeah, sooner or later all kids get off the bottle. That other cos person, leah remni, her daughter is almost 5 yrs old and still gets 7-8 bottles of milk a night. Maybe it has something to do with their audit sessions.

• tyler
  May 5, 2008 at 10:13 pm

  It’s hard to generalize about the bottle, but seems like the longer parents wait, the harder it gets. I’ve seen this firsthand. Still, she’s still very young. Not that unusual to have an occasional bottle (of milk) at that age :) She’s cute.

• concerned mom
  May 5, 2008 at 11:30 pm

  The most a child of 2+ should have is perhaps a little tiny bottle (4 Oz) before going to bed–not IN bed but before bed if they must. I think with the newer sippy cups that are available, they should be out of the bottle stage completely at this point. I am a part time Nanny on the side and not one child I watch (and these are rich families) is on the bottle over about 14 mos. My 14 mo old twins have 1 4 oz bottle a day before bed-not in bed ever.

• Lauren
  May 6, 2008 at 3:31 am

  Kids can be attached to a bottle or a blanket. I saw pictures last week of Zahara Jolie- Pitt with a blanket at almost 31/2 years! and Ryder Robinson with her pacifier at 4 years. Every child is different. Suri seems to have a very strong personality. I doubt you can persuade her to do something she does not want to do like wear shoes or leave a bottle behind. There are kids like that. The best practice is while in public, indulge them or they can embarrass you. In any case I doubt she will be 10 or 15yrs and still on the bottle.

  Beautiful pictures. Thanks Julie.

• Hana
  May 6, 2008 at 3:33 am

  Cute pics.

  NOS: Katie is actually walking not Posing. Usually there are videos and from the video you can see the pics are taken in a matter of minutes, while they are walking from shops/restaurants to their car….

  I just hate the fact that people will be complaining where is Suri or Tom and Katie when we don’t see them and the same people will complain when we do see them.

• Lilianne
  May 6, 2008 at 4:16 am

  This won’t go through but very cute pictures of Suri. I liked how her baby isn’t dressed which is exactly the same thing that most little kids do with dolls. They just whip the clothes off and that is how they stay. Very sweet. I think the bottle should really be a non-issue at this point…it might be a little unusual for a child her age but it isn’t any different than a pacifier.

• Eliza
  May 6, 2008 at 5:22 am

  Glad I wasn’t the only that noticed she wasn’t wearing any shoes, hopefully Katie bought some while shopping. Oh she could’ve lost them along the way too. You know how those little ones hate their shoes. I picture them somewhere on the way to the plane back at home. hehe.

• Romina
  May 6, 2008 at 6:44 am

  Katie have winter dress,
  Suri have summer dress?!?
  What’s the weather in NY?

  ciao Romy

• Julie
  May 6, 2008 at 6:55 am

  forget about the bottle, forget about the shoes, don’t worry about the sweater, just look at Suri’s happy, radiant face! Amazing!

• No one Special
  May 6, 2008 at 8:19 am

  Tyler: I agree with you. Maybe this is her security since her parents have her in front of so many strange people who are taking her pic and alling to her. Also, giving Suri a bottle is a good way to placate her when she is in all those posh shops. You certainly don’t want a two year old throwing a fit in those shops. There are quite a bit of expensive things there and they are not kid friendly. Nor do you want her eating snacks to satisfy her hunger. Can you picture Suri running around stores with soggy animal crackers or sticky hands?

  Either way, it does get harder to get rid of.
  Something that is easy to do in the long run, but a pain in the short run, is to chuck those bottles in the garbage. We had to that with my son when he was over two and still on the bottle!

  Our peditrician told us that it was bad for his teeth. The other issue is that he was filling up on the milk and not getting the nutrients he needed from other sources. Who knows, maybe Suri’s barley water is healthier and has more nutrients than milk.

• concerned mom
  May 6, 2008 at 8:33 am

  I have seen plenty of kids with a blanket at this age. Usually they are holding it or dragging it themselves. Watched a 2 year old last weekend who carried his blanket everywhere. In my opinion, I would like to see Suri dressed in weather appropriate clothing, shoes, etc maybe sippy cup but it is really hard to get a child of any age separated from their blanket or favorite toy. To me, it would look more normal to see Suri in a jacket and shoes if her mom is dressed warmer and carrying her blanket. Don’t know how long they were outside tho, just from store to car isn’t so bad.

• bumblebeej
  May 6, 2008 at 8:59 am

  She should have shoes on. Even if she takes them off in the car… It’s NYC for pete’s sake

• tyler
  May 6, 2008 at 9:11 am

  I agree with the shoes part. She’s in NYC, not the beach. Maybe they assume she’ll surrender the bottle by herself when she’s ready. Good luck on that one!

• tyler
  May 6, 2008 at 9:22 am

  The last thing you want to do is to start indulging your kids in public for fear of embarassment. If Suri’s in charge now, just wait til she gets older. Parents need to set rules, not be their kids’ best friends.

• Milla
  May 6, 2008 at 9:35 am

  For goodness sake, trim her fringe (bangs)!
  How can she be comfortable with hair in her eyes.
  My daughter is still very attached to her blanket at the age of 3. Like Suri she is also an Aries, very strongheaded and quite a character but I’m sure she’ll give up the blanket when school starts. She has no choice but to!

• bumblebeej
  May 6, 2008 at 9:43 am

  I agree about not placating the kids for fear of embarrassment. It’s not very often people tut tut mothers whose kids throw tantrums in public. Plus, tantrums and the results (i.e. parents not giving in) is how kids learn about things.. boundaries, life, right and wrong etc.

• Doug
  May 6, 2008 at 9:46 am

  Parenting is one of the most rewarding, yet tuff, jobs someone can tackle. I agree that rules have to be set even if it’s tuff. There were plenty of times I heard “I hate you!!” Boy, those times were and still are tuff. Doesn’t stop when they enter the teen years. I still trudge on, however, because I’m their parent for a reason. It’s my job to help mold them to be the best they can be in life and to prepare them for life. If I was always a “yes man”, I know I wouldn’t be helping them in the long run when they are going to hear the word “no.” Heck, I’ve employed people who I could tell were never told “no” hardly if ever as a child because when I told them “no” as their boss, I faced a meltdown by adult men and women who couldn’t or wouldn’t abide by everyday rules, many of which I set in place to protect them.

• Tia
  May 6, 2008 at 9:48 am

  It looks like Summer Redstone doesn’t have a problem if Tom star’s in another M:I.

  “What I can say is, I consider Tom Cruise a great actor and a good friend, and if Paramount decides to go ahead with him, I will not object.”

• Tia
  May 6, 2008 at 9:52 am

  Im not a parent myself so I don’t have a great deal of opinions on this topic but I wanted to say, everyone is different and they have a different way of raising their kids. From what people that know them have said and pics of course Bella and Connor are very down to earth and nice kids and I hope Suri will be no different.

• Doug
  May 6, 2008 at 9:59 am

  I agree that everyone does have different parenting styles. I think the ultimate goal that many parents have, however, is that they want to see their children become happy and well-adjusted adults. As parents, we know we won’t always be there for them, so we do the BEST we can, even making mistakes along the way, to prepare them for the that Big World out there that they are going to have to face whether they are prepared for it or not.

• bumblebeej
  May 6, 2008 at 10:07 am

  I think Suri is being brought up different to how Connor and Bella were. They were kids together, and now they’re older. Suri is more like an only child in that sense (i.e. the older kids have their own life. I’m sure they play with her but they are tweens / teens… they are not full time playmates like a sibling who is only two years older/younger would be).

  Also, if the tabs are to be believed, Suri is brought up by Scieo rules. TC wasn’t as involved in the religion when the other kids were younger, so may not have been as ‘Scieo’ a parent (i.e. not saying NO etc).

  Anyway, a kid who can walk should wear shoes all the time they’re out, especially in NYC. Even if they pull them off every 5 mins, the job of the parent is to put them back on. I’ve done it when I babysit, drives me nuts but the kid usually gets quite bored with the process after 20 minutes. The same child would pull off her diaper every 5 mins too, but I’d just put it back on!

  No one in life gets to do what they want to do. So why should anyone give in to a two year old? She may just grow up thinking she can do what she wants to do, and like a lot of celeb children, it won’t a pleasant person make (just look at all the brats in the UK now.. Bob Geldof’s kids, the royals who are coming of age, etc).

• concerned mom
  May 6, 2008 at 10:16 am

  Yes, I remember many pictures of Princess Diana and her boys-they never had shoes on either, except when they started in that nursery school. I agree shoes are important.

• Lauren
  May 6, 2008 at 10:17 am

  I agree 100% with setting boundaries for kids, personally am tired of over-indulged adults who seem the world owes them. Having said that, it would not be wise for Katie to try and be a disciplinarian infront of 30 cameras with the world watching your every move, moreover to a kid like Suri who to me seems as difficult as they come.

• tyler
  May 6, 2008 at 10:19 am

  Tia, you’re right that different people have different ways. That’s the point of this discussion. Those that realize they represent authority figures have the best chance at succeeding in what is an extremely difficult job. Doesn’t mean you have to rule with an iron fist, but you have to be able to set boundaries. If a parent can’t do that, it means they’re taking the easy road.

• DonnerParty
  May 6, 2008 at 10:19 am

  When you are out shopping with a child that acts up, you cancel the photo-op, pack it up and go home.

• Lauren
  May 6, 2008 at 10:20 am

  LOL Concerned mom, you think the problem started with their lack of shoes?

  ‘I saw pictures on JJ of Suri alone in the store and another one seated with her bottle. They were quite funny. She looked like ‘am tired, please don’t bother me’. LOL

• tyler
  May 6, 2008 at 10:21 am

  Lauren, I do understand your point because if Suri throws a fit, it would be in tabloids all over the world. Like Doug says, parenting is hard.

• concerned mom
  May 6, 2008 at 10:22 am

  Tia, I saw that about MI. Maybe Tom will do it for little or no money up front with some of the box office profits. He does that sometimes-actually made more than the studio made on one of his movies. That would also be an incentive for him to properly promote the movie.

• tyler
  May 6, 2008 at 10:26 am

  lauren, haven’t see jj, but sounds funny. i’m sure you’re right on, it doesn’t start with shoes.

• Lauren
  May 6, 2008 at 10:26 am

  (Calm tone) Donnerparty, why ruin a good shopping spree and an opportune Photo Op when you can let the child walk bare foot. They won’t die you know (Note: sarcasm)

• bumblebeej
  May 6, 2008 at 10:33 am

  Generally they’re not bad for royals, but they do seems to be doing a bit of what they want (like flying expensive army helicopters to their girlfriend’s house?)

  See, Princess Di should have made them wear shoes!

• Lauren
  May 6, 2008 at 10:35 am

  Ignore my last comment. Every one is trying to be nice and I had to have a go at the one person who made a snide remark. My bad.

  Yes I do understand where you guys are coming from. Suri seems over indulged to an outsider but you never know what they do in private. They should let her live a week at Heidi Klum’s house. Now that is one tough mother. Firm but loving.

• Lauren
  May 6, 2008 at 10:39 am

  LOL Bumblebeej. I think Pr William is actually a very nice well adjusted lad. As kids go these days, all you ask is they are not caught doing drugs. (Note: Caught), doing drugs is inevitable for any kid with money.

  Now Harry is a different story. Should have served longer in Afghanistan. I guess licing in your brother’s shadow makes you want to make a name whichever way you can.

• concerned mom
  May 6, 2008 at 11:18 am

  Now Lauren that was funny. What I said did look silly in retrospect. I do think it is good for little kids to wear shoes. I never put my oldest in shoes until she was like 11 mos-don’t everyone shoot me now. LOL And then I had to buy Stride-rite because her little feet were so wide. Turned out normal tho so no harm done. I did have her in little socks to keep her feet warm tho. That was what I meant. I sure don’t think shoes would have made the difference in Will and Harry. My kids were born in the same timeframe tho so maybe it was what we did at the time? Don’t know. And yes Suri is sitting there all bored and tired looking. Like any kid you take out for too much shopping. They would rather be playing somewhere else.

• DonnerParty
  May 6, 2008 at 11:29 am

  Lauren I do understand what you are saying about going barefoot, normally. But to go barefoot in public, in NYC, you never know what she could get on her feet and then if she walks on her blankie and then get THAT in her face. YUCK!

• Doug
  May 6, 2008 at 11:53 am

  I agree with many of you on the subject of over-indulged children who grow up to be adults who thinks the whole world revolves around them. People like them are not only hard to be around, but they also seem to be thoughtless self-absorbed individuals who could care less about anyone else’s feelings but their own. Believe me, I’ve employed some who were very “booksmart” but were arrogant, cocky or whatever you want to call them beyond belief. I had to let many of these people go because you just couldn’t talk to them, even to give constructive criticism. Sad.

• Midwestern Girl
  May 6, 2008 at 12:57 pm

  Suri looks adorable as usual, but if Katie looks this gaunt in a photo (when draped in a turtleneck AND coat), she must be terrifyingly thin in person. If she is so happy and everything is so wonderful, why is she disappearing? People DIE of anorexia. Something must be very, very wrong.

• concerned mom
  May 6, 2008 at 12:57 pm

  I do think that Suri as well dressed as she is probably has dozens of pairs of shoes. Put some on the kid!! I wouldn’t walk around anywhere barefoot these days except the beach and then I have thongs on.

• Mary
  May 6, 2008 at 1:09 pm

  Suri wasn’t walking around the streets of Manhattan barefeet though……..She was in her mother’s arms.

• concerned mom
  May 6, 2008 at 2:14 pm

  True enough-don’t know why they carry her everywhere-good for kids to walk about themselves, but faster to carry them.

• Mary
  May 6, 2008 at 3:11 pm

  With the paps that form a circle around them I’m glad Katie is carrying her………..The way the paps descend has to be seen to be believed.
  Now there are some cute pics of Suri walking around when the family was in Germany and of course in some of her birthday pics.

• mom in chicago
  May 6, 2008 at 3:18 pm

  I think there’s way too much criticism about Suri’s clothes, bottle, shoes, etc., considering that no one actually knew what was happening in that situation! So many moms today want to attack other moms who aren’t doing things exactly the way they would do it. Suri looks healthy and happy so there is no need to be so harsh towards them. Oh and its obvious why Suri is usually carried everywhere - there’s always a throng of papparazi around and it seems much safer to carry her than to risk her getting injured or lost. I’m sure they don’t carry her around the house at home. I think some people just need to lay off and be glad that there’s not a camera capturing all of their parenting moments for the world to pick at.

• No one Special
  May 6, 2008 at 3:42 pm

  I have a question and maybe someone can explain to me.

  If Cruise has been so successful with LIONS FOR THE LAMBS and soon to be VALKYRIE, why is he trying to get back into Paramount’s good graces?

  Wouldn’t it speak volumes for him and Paula Wagner if he can make UA more successful than Paramount to prove to Redstone and clan that he really didn’t need them?

  I’m sorry, but it looks like Cruise is begging for work from Paramount. He was the one who called Redstone and set-up the lunch.

• swiftchick
  May 6, 2008 at 5:08 pm

  This is the first comment I have ever posted. I think Suri is absolutely beautiful and I don’t know why everyone picks on Katie Holmes and judges her because you think she should do things differently. Are ya’ll perfect mothers? NO. NO ONE is. If you’re going to continue to pick on people, I think the problem lies with you having a complex over your own insecurities and needing to pick on everyone else. Who cares?? Both her and Tom Cruise are great actors and they’re raising THEIR family the way they want to. You come to this site because you obviously like them, so enjoy the content instead of feeling like you have to voice your grouchy opinions that don’t matter!

• concerned mom
  May 6, 2008 at 5:19 pm

  Interesting and I think valid question. I think my head is spinning from all the Hollywood wheeling and dealing going on. I have read that it takes 2-3 years to get a studio up and running so the only thing is if the investors will stick that long

• Tuna Subway
  May 6, 2008 at 5:52 pm

  No. I believe Tom Cruise own’s part of the rights to the Mission Impossible franchise. In order for him to make another sequel, he has to come to an agreement with them, even if another Mission Impossible movie was made without cruise, he would still get some of the monies from the movie, because he owns part of the rights to the franchise. Also, I believe Redstone wanted to make good with Cruise since 2007. But Tom was busy and they had to arrange a date, and it fell last month. I think that reconcilation, probably made Cruise feel that he should get on good terms with a few other people. I think it was a great move. Now It makes it less boring, knowing he is in good standing with them, but at least that means less media will bug him.

• tyler
  May 6, 2008 at 6:32 pm

  Okay, this afternoon I’m not having a problem with the bare feet, but that hair in her face is disturbing. Someone said to check out JJ so I did. Her hair almost completely covers her eyes. Can’t they afford a couple of barettes LOL

• NG
  May 6, 2008 at 7:36 pm

  Here’s People’s picture of Suri and the Red shoe.

  http://www.people.com/people/gallery/0,,20198154_3,00.html

• ValentineBride
  May 6, 2008 at 9:35 pm

  JJ has pics of Suri walking in the store without socks or shoes… strange… you’d think a parent would want protection on their child’s feet.

• kelly
  May 6, 2008 at 10:29 pm

  why are her bangs so long?

• Hana
  May 7, 2008 at 3:51 am

  Now, isn’t this great? A discussion without attacks and snide remark? I hope it stays that way from both sides.

• Lauren
  May 7, 2008 at 5:42 am

  NOS, I know everything these days has been spun and spun and spun some more. The truth is that Redstone on two occasions last year held out an olive branch to Tom Cruise. (google it: Redstone retracts his comments). He denied his remarks in VF and on the second occasion retracted them saying he had no problem with Tom Cruise and that he was quoted out of context.

  On their last meeting, media outlets spun the story to seem like it is Tom Cruise who wanted to win back Redstone, but if you think about it, if Redstone threw out Tom like he did, why would he then allow to meet him and call him a friend? This is Restone remember blunt as they come.

  Mission Impossible has been Paramount’s most successful franchise. Cruise made Paramount over $3 billion over the years and has been their most successful star to date. The rest don’t even come close.

  Redstone thought he could make a new Tom Cruise from young stars like Gyllenhaal, he had a good script for Zodiac and even promoted it personally giving interviews and doing the red carpet. It tanked, for no reason at all. Good script, popular young actor, good director, rave reviews, yet it was a dud at the BO. Remember when he was firing TC he said it takes a script to make a box office hit, well he has now realised that he was wrong.

• Lauren
  May 7, 2008 at 5:57 am

  Mission Impossible is a very lucrative franchise. Even with boycotts against TC M13 made 395 million, more that most movies will ever make. At the very worst it can make 300 million if resurrected, that is about 180 million for the studio. Remember at the very worst. This is money we are talking about.

  Paramount has certain rights to it, and Cruise Wagner production have the rest (It used to be a TV series back then and CW bought its rights). Why waste that money if neither party is willing to compromise? Brad Grey has always been on TC’s side in this Redstone saga and he said they warned Restone about ‘firing’ Tom Cruise. David Geffen said so too. Am glad they have been vindicated.

  Let’s now look at Redstone, he fired his lawyers, fell out with Spielberg (Dream works is severing ties with Paramount in 2009, that’s another story), has lost many senior execs at paramount and fell out with his kids too. Paramount vantage is not doing so well either, smaller paramount affiliated studios like Plan B run by Brad Pitt and Brad Grey are in trouble too, they have produced bomb after bomb at the BO since Departed. Let’s not even start of Brad Grey’s problems and links with some criminal elements in Washington.

  Much as the Cruise critics would like to spin things in their favour, to be fair, they probably have not been following Redstone’s affairs. Redstone is in trouble and needs as many friends as he can. The dreamworks merger has been bringing in a lot of money and now things are getting from bad to worse.

• One Mom to another
  May 7, 2008 at 6:28 am

  I think you guys need to lighten up. Katie is a first time Mom. Suri will come off the bottle when she is ready - not when some “well-meaning stranger who doesnt know Suri’s” says so. Many kids walk around without shoes. Doesnt make Katie a deficient Mom. Get a life - I wonder if you are concerned as much about you own kids and relationships.

• Tia
  May 7, 2008 at 8:09 am

  Lauren, fantastic post and I also like it when we can all be adult and discuss things nicely without the snide remark.

• tyler
  May 7, 2008 at 8:18 am

  They really need to test market Cruise to see if he is still marketable. Just as there’s a lot of $ to be made, there’s a lot to be lost. Looked like Cruise was trying to go in another direction, kinda break free of that stereotypical role he always plays so I’m surprised.

• Tia
  May 7, 2008 at 9:03 am

  Tyler, this is not confirmed yet. But even if he decide to do that, he has always succeeded in doing different roles, that challenges him and I’m sure another M:I will not stop him doing other non-stereotypical roles.

  I wouldn’t mind another M:I with J.J. Abrams, just to find out what exactly “the rabbit’s foot” is. :)

• Carmen
  May 7, 2008 at 9:27 am

  He needs to do another MI with director John Woo. Boy, MI2 was the bomb for me!! Those kung fu moves were hot!!

• tyler
  May 7, 2008 at 10:09 am

  “Has always” as noted in Tia’s post is speaking in past terms. Successful business leaders will tell you, worse thing one can do is to ride on past success.

• PuckHappy
  May 7, 2008 at 10:19 am

  I have read a lot of opinions on different types of women’s boards and many sing the same song. They have all grown up with tc and have been IN LOVE with him, but now cannot get past his ignorant remarks on postpartum.
  They all agreed that it was a slap in their faces. One said it was as bad as spousal abuse and that until you have had it you have NO business having an opinion on it.
  Bottom line, they all agreed that they cannot and will not watch him anymore.

• Mary
  May 7, 2008 at 11:55 am

  PuckHappy………….I don’t believe the “they cannot abd will not watch him anymore” is necessarily true now. Absolutely in the beginning that was true but I think many of those same women see Tom and his entire family as getting a truly raw deal.
  He has explained himself and as much as some would like to believe that he can’t do or say enough to show that he did not communicate his thoughts clearly enough, he has.
  Most importantly the woman whose name he brought up in the discussion has accepted his apology and in my opinion that says more than enough.

• bumblebeej
  May 7, 2008 at 1:44 pm

  Wow.. it seems that a number of replica ‘mom’ comments were just published from moderation. Are they all from the same person?

• Lauren
  May 7, 2008 at 3:05 pm

  I do not believe for one minute that the average woman off the street shares that sentiment Tyler. Yes there are those who have been successfully manipulated by the media to believe that Tom is a bad controlling man who lost his marbles but most movie goers are not on the internet 24/7 trashing Cruise and his family, neither are they angry former scientologists. Infact most of those bloggers are a group of people headed by the so called ‘anonymous’ fighting scientology but using Cruise as a punch bag. They have a lot of time on their hands. You can see by the frequency with which non fans post here. Which gives me the impression that they are always on the internet saying the same thing over and over again on different sites with different identities. I have met some non fans here on other sites and they will say what they say here but of course more rudely.

  If someone can create a site dedicated to hating Tom Cruise and his family, what stops them from going from site to site posting what you have just said? If some one can call up Suri’s cake maker and Tom’s barber and the easter brunch place, what stops them from masquerading as ‘women’ all over the world?

  I don’t for a moment believe that TC is over as non fans labour to emphasise, why then would anonymous still be bothering with him? Why would non fans visit site after site to attack and harrass him. Why would Redstone be meeting a man who is over and retracting his comments? Shouldn’t he be dancing on TC’s grave instead? congragulating himself on successfully ruining him?

  The problem is that when you hang around with people who believe in the tooth-fairy, you start believing in him too. Not to be offensive but non fans are always feeding each other with ‘Cruise is over stories’ that they start believing them, mainly because they want them to be true. It blinds them to other realities. Case in point, none of them bothered to check up on Redstone and his reasons for holding out an olive branch for TC. They simply swallowed the story of TC is begging. Suri being older without proper chronology to support their claims, Suri and lighter hair, I even read some attacks on Perezhilton for Suri having a cameo on Oprah which never was.

  It is that desperate need to believe something is true that blinds some to any contrary realities. I love TC but I would never call him tall. LOL. I am sure if being tall became a crime, non fans would add inches to Cruise and scrutnise every shoe he wore for flat soles.

• tyler
  May 7, 2008 at 3:57 pm

  Lauren, Since I didn’t say anything about the man, I have no idea what you’re referring to by your comment about “a woman off the street,” so I can’t respond. Sorry.

• concerned mom
  May 7, 2008 at 5:10 pm

  Wow. Lauren. Thought you were toning it down.. While in my opinion, Tom did in fact lose a lot of women fans when he said that about Brooke-even though he apologized later,etc- it was irresponsible on his part and if just one woman came off her meds and was harmed because of what he said, that would be too many. Make no mistake he still believes the same way- whatever he says. Many of those women may come back into the fold as his fans, but as I am one of the ‘others’ I know for a fact many won’t. As far as his career goes, I am taking the time will tell point of view. Don’t think there is any point in wasting so much energy worrying about it one way or the other. I won’t believe that he is in MI 4 unless or until filming starts on it tho. As for Vakyrie-I cant’ wait to see what happens there. I bet Merrill Lynch is watching that closely as well. Studios in Hollywood are a dime a dozen-come and go almost as much as marriages do-hard to keep up

• NG
  May 7, 2008 at 6:44 pm

  Lauren, I guess the women you are describing is someone you also fit the bill with. You apparently go to the websites that allow for the public to practice their free speech and carefully read and probably take notes of what people are saying. The box office receipts for Lions for Lambs and Mad Money speaks volumnes about Cruise and Katie’s current appeal, people are not going in droves to see their movies at the theaters. You can analyze it from any angle but Cruise has damaged his career and so has Katie.

• Mary
  May 7, 2008 at 7:31 pm

  It’s interesting that LFL is chosen as an example but LFL did many times better than other movies dealing with the same subject matter (the war)……..That list of disappointments includes Rendition with media darlings Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhall, In the Valley Of Elah with Tommy Lee Jones and Charlize Theron, Redacted which was directed by no less of a director than Brain De Palma and Stop-Loss with Ryan Phillipe which got raving reviews.

  At the height of the bruhaha with what Cruise said M:I: 3 still managed to pull in close to $50 million on it’s opening weekend.

  As far as the treatment of PPD is concerned what has come out of it is that one size does not fit all in terms of treatment and as the discussions coming out of the debate have proven, there are many ways to treat PPD and many and not all of them include medication.

  Brooke Shields has accepted Tom’s apology for bringing her name into the discussion at all. She has moved on from that episode enough to be friends with Tom.

  As for Katie, if you check her list of movies before Tom, she has never had a movie that was a major blockbuster and I don’t think MM was meant to be that……………Batman Begins was the biggest movie that Katie was ever a part of in terms of Budget, production box office numbers and co-stars.

  Julie………I apologize for the off-topic.
  __________________________________________

  Both Suri and Katie do look great in red. :)
  It’s a very complimentary color on both of them.
  It appears that all had a wonderful few days in NY.

• Jenna
  May 7, 2008 at 10:03 pm

  Hey TomKat peeps: I just read this at TMZ.com:

  Maybe it’s what LRH prescribes, but Suri Cruise is too old to be drinking from a bottle, say doctors – medical doctors.

  Suri was spotted yesterday slurping a bottle as she and Scientolomom Katie Holmes strolled Madison Avenue, but Usmagazine.com talked to some pediatricians who say that the two-year-old should’ve been drinking from a sippy cup already. Most babies are weaned off a bottle by 18 months.

  Given her parents’ insistence on keeping her under the stairs – this could explain a lot.

• Lauren
  May 8, 2008 at 5:30 am

  I agree Suri should be off the bottle, parenting is never easy and any mother will tell you that. I am sure she will not be on the bottle ten years from now.

  Concerned mom, I am sorry my post came off as harsh. It was never meant to be that. Maybe you are used to harsh tones from me so you read it that way. LOL.

• Lauren
  May 8, 2008 at 5:35 am

  About their careers, again it comes down to selective analysis to suit your theories and wishes. LFL did better than most war movies. Mary pointed out those other actors/actresses whose war movies did not do well, have we written them off yet? Mission impossible was released right after those comments by TC, at the time when women supposedly did not want anything to do with him, yet it brought in close to 400million.

• Lauren
  May 8, 2008 at 5:43 am

  In MM, Katie was not the leading actress in it and it was not meant to be BO hit. It made almost 8 milion in its opening weekend and has made over 20 million domestically. Infact it is one of those movies that go straight to DVD and should make some money that way.

  Ng, if careers were finished because a movie did not do as well as non fans or any one for that matter expects, then la la land should have closed shop. How many stars have had duds in recent times? So Brad Pitt’s career is over too, Queen Latifa, Diane Keaton, George Clooney, Jake Gyllenhaal, Angelina Jolie, Nicole Kidman, Ewan Mcgregor, Hugh Jackman, Meryl Streep has had two! every one, I mean every one has had a less than fantastic performance at the BO at one time or another are their careers over? Only Will Smith would still be around and am sure if he did LFL, it would not have performed any better.

  From your theory can we take it that the costars of these movies MM and LFL, should also pack up? Is Robert Redford’s career over?

  Deception by Michelle Williams just made only two million for its opening weekend and had bad reviews, should she seek another trade? It had Ewan Mcgregor and Hugh Jackman should they leave too? Is Katie a bigger star than Hugh Jackman or Ewan Mcgregor to expect much more from her? She did better than them already if you take recent movies. These are realities you fail to see because you want to believe the contrary so badly. Why have selective judgement? This is the kind of unfairness that really bothers me.

  Non fans point put all the time that Katie is famous for who she is married to. I agree that she would not be as famous were she not married to TC. Why then do you expect her to have hit after hit at the BO even for a caper movie?

  Please help me understand this reasoning.

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 7:40 am

  Jenna: I doubt doctors do everything they say you should do. Either that or they don’t have kids. I don’t get the bottle comments any more. If she were three or four sipping out of it, I can see the uproar, but not two.

  Also, considering how much this little girl is paraded in front of cameras, and you can tell she doesn’t like it, while her parents have to pose and smile, let her have her comfort.

  Lauren, You are so biased that you are dripping with it. TC and KH can do know wrong with you!!

  I also still seeing you are trolling the other sites, stalking Libra and gang, and commenting here about it.

• Tia
  May 8, 2008 at 8:05 am

  Tyler: from Lauren’s comment, I think she meant to say PuckHappy not you.

• Tia
  May 8, 2008 at 8:19 am

  NOS: no offence but I can say the same thing about one or two nonfans (not you) who are so biased with their comments. Don’t want to name them because I do not want to start another war, when things are going much better on this blog.

  Lauren: I think you’re been doing great with your comments, so keep up the good work. I think we can all have good discussions without the attacks.

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 8:25 am

  tia: I have to agree with your last comment. I don’t see the point in trolling around the Internet and then commenting on what someone else said somewhere else. I guess I never understood stalking!!

  I also hope that I am looking at things based on the evidence seen.

• Lauren
  May 8, 2008 at 8:26 am

  Tia thanks for pointing that out. Tyler, am sorry it is puckhappy I meant not you.

  NOS bias is as bias does. The glass can be half empty and half full depending on the sentiment of who is looking at it. It doesn’t change the fact that it is a glass and it is neither full nor empty. I could say the same for non fans and critics. They are very biased most of the time and Tom and Katie can’t do right. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. I base my opinion on facts. Tom and Katie can of course do wrong and my comments when am not deriding posters :) can tell you that I know that they are not perfect. For one I think Suri is spoilt rotten and is very indulged, I am just counting on her parents to reign her in when they think the time is right. Her father has raised two kids and they seem very well adjusted. I do agree with what you say about bottles. It is a fact that perenting is not a piece of cake.

  It is also difficult to criticise as it only spurs non fans. Some things are said over and over again that I just don’t see the need to add my substance.

• Lauren
  May 8, 2008 at 8:37 am

  Thanks Tia, I like the polite discussion here too. At least now we can get our point across That is why I rarely if ever post on other sites. It is a waste of time trying to be rational with someone terminally angry and bitter.

  NOS with all due respect, I find it ironic that you would find nothing wrong with some one who writes to Tom’s barber and Suri’s cake maker etc calling her prudent for trying to research facts and yet call some one who does the same on the internet a stalker. How else would I be able to comment and understand where so called non fans are coming from? It is a new phenomena, having people very interested in a celebrity they seem to despise. I can’t say I understand it but from their posts here and around the internet, I do get an insight into their mind-set.

• Lilianne
  May 8, 2008 at 8:37 am

  Not that anyone cares about my opinion but I will give it nonetheless…for whatever it is worth. I don’t think that it is possible for anyone here to base any of their opinions about this couple and their child on fact. How can we when we do not know them and their lives? We can speculate and we can read things written or said about them but even that does not make it fact. Even things that come directly from a celebrities mouth may or may not be fact. I am sure that celebs let us know what they want us to know and sometimes mislead the public deliberately. I know I would if I were in that position because my private life would be noones business.

• Lilianne
  May 8, 2008 at 8:52 am

  Oh, and a question…why would anyone really care about what someone does on other sites especially if it is not one they frequent? If someone goes to a site and does not approve of behavior there then they should comment THERE…not discuss it here.

• concerned mom
  May 8, 2008 at 9:36 am

  Difference there Lauren is I believe ‘cyber-stalking’ someone is a crime in some places. Following someone around the net is both a bit scary and disturbing.

• Tia
  May 8, 2008 at 9:55 am

  mom: I go to most Tom and Katie website and the same nonfans are usually there too, so is that considered stalking?

• Lauren
  May 8, 2008 at 10:27 am

  LOL concerned mom. I don’t follow any one around the internet. As a fan, I just look for news on Tom and Katie and I will tell you that non fans are all over Tomkat threads on any celebrity blog, infact the usually have the first post. It is not rocket science really.

  Now jumping from site to site harrassing a particular celebrity, abusing their family and telling lies about them is what I call cyber stalking. Have you ever seen me posting about a non fan on any other topic other than TC?

  Stalking is a crime, cyber or otherwise. So checking up on celeb’s private lives and writing to their friends e.g Marc Anthony warning him off TC is stalking and it is sick and criminal.

• Jenna
  May 8, 2008 at 10:42 am

  Ok Katie fans….. I am officially obsessed with how BEAUTIFUL Katie looks in her most recent pics on Just Jared where she is photographed with TC coming out of the MET Costume Gala awards. I recently wrote that I did not like her new shorter hair cut but in these pics with all the makeup and with her hair being straightened with a CHI, she looks utterly incredible. A vision!!! That sparkly red ball gown and pairing it with a unique blue stilleto was a fantastic fashion choice. The gold necklace, the makeup was all perfect. I am soooo jealous of how gorgeous she looked. Ahhhh…. I want to look like that!!!!! And…..I want that gown!!!!

• Jenna
  May 8, 2008 at 10:47 am

  Ok…I am officially obsessed with how GORGEOUS Katie looks in her most recent photos coming out of the MET Costume Gala Awards on the JJ website. She looks INCREDIBLE!!! A VISION!!!! That red sparkly gown paired with a blue stiletto was a fantastic fashion choice. The gold necklace, and makeup all rock! Her new haircut, which I initially hated, looks fantastic now when it is all CHI’d flat!! I am soooo jealous of how beautiful she looks in those pics!!! (and , I am not that bad looking myself, but she is a complete vision)

• concerned mom
  May 8, 2008 at 10:49 am

  Lauren, I will say you have been doing better the last little bit here. We all probably have a list of sites we look at for our celeb news. Don’t see anything wrong with that. I think it isn’t good however, to bring all kinds of negative stuff back here about people who no longer post here which had been done as you know. I think there is the new tc site and the tom cruise fan site and a bunch of other places where fans can have a lovefest night and day. I don’t personally post all over the place-just a couple of places. And my main posting is actually in anti-scie sites and free katie sites not necessarily about TC at all.

• Jenna
  May 8, 2008 at 10:53 am

  sorry for the duplicate message…probs with the computer

• Lauren
  May 8, 2008 at 11:16 am

  CM, I just don’t like hypocricy and people being pretentious. Calling Julie a Nazi on one site and then coming here and wishing her well with her move just bugs me. To be truthful I mainly post here and on fansites. I rarely post though. I spend my whole day and part of the night on a computer doing work. Ocassionally I take a break to catch up on what my fave celebs have been upto.

  I am sorry if it offends you but I will continue pointing out people’s true opinions wherever I find them. That way, we can be clear where we stand.

  Jenna, there is a picture of Tom and Katie on Babyrazzi. (I am not the lauren who posts there most times). Now that is really beautiful. Katie looked very beautiful on the night I agree. I wish I could pull off short hair.

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 12:08 pm

  Julie: I am very disappointed with how B5 and you have handled this situation with Lauren!!

  Posted by Lauren a few moments ago:
  “I am sorry if it offends you but I will continue pointing out people’s true opinions wherever I find them. That way, we can be clear where we stand.”

  I know you have said that some here don’t have real URLS, so you can’t block them. I think that is why the last webmistress had people logging in to post–you had to have a real e-mail/URL to post and you couldn’t use different names!!

  Honestly, I don’t think you or your boss really want to remedy the situation!!

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 12:10 pm

  Jenna: I liked the red dress too, but the blue shoes looked really bad. They detracted too much from the rest of her outfit.

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 12:13 pm

  Lauren: Will save you the trip over to the other site!

  From LIbra:

  I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU LAUREN………IF YOU CLAIM “I mainly post here and on fansites.” THEN WHY DO YOU CONSTANTLY LURK HERE AND ON “I HATE TOM CRUISE” GATHERING QUOTES FROM PEOPLE?????

  GET HELP ASAP!!!!!!

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 12:15 pm

  Lauren, do us all a favor and post your response over there!!

  I, for one don’t want to have to keep drudging this one up. I am here to chat, not bicker.

  But, since B5 won’t do anything about you, I will defend those who are blocked because they use legitimate e-mail accounts.

• amy
  May 8, 2008 at 12:21 pm

  yes lauren you ARE right - stalking is a crime - EVEN cyber stalking - so WHY DO YOU PERSIST IN DOING SO??!!

  You are continually ‘quoting’ comments onto this site that you have read on other sites - your favourite site to quote is ‘ i hate tom cruise’ so that begs the question - WHY do you even VISIT that site??

  You also CONTINUALLY drag up the name of people who haven’t posted here for months and months - even QUOTING their recent comments on other sites - now i find that extremely disturbing and, well, just plain sick and nasty

  it is obvious that you have a vendetta against ANYONE who dares to not worship mr cruise to the extreme that you do

  WHY can’t you just keep each thread to the topic at hand and abide by the webmistresses rules on THIS site

  PLEASE feel free to comment on any other site you visit, instead of lurking in the background and then trying to cause trouble

  I am actually worried for your mental health at the moment - seriously - perhaps you should unplug for a few days, take a step back, and put this all into perspective - these are GOSSIP sites - end of - we will NEVER all agree

  just for the record - where did you get that comment about ‘writing to mark anthony to warn him off tc??

  i would be very interested to know where you found that from (as would others here)

  also the ‘calling julie a nazi’ comment….

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 12:26 pm

  Very well said Amy.
  It is sad we have to keep going through the same song and dance!

  I guess this time I am not going to sit by while she gets out of control again!

• tyler
  May 8, 2008 at 12:29 pm

  if one person here would accept the fact that, just as she is not going away, neither are others, it it would solve everything. to all the others, i don’t understand why you pay so much attention to her? not worth it. i say ignore the nasty comments. don’t acknowledge them. that’s what she wants.

• concerned mom
  May 8, 2008 at 12:41 pm

  Wow. Go away for a few minutes…LOL I like posting here. I would like to see some new articles, but Julie probably is busy with her REAL life at the moment so it is what it is. Things were going so well here, but I just don’t think you can help yourself Lauren. Not sure why you think you are ‘appointed’ to go all over the net and bring ‘truth’ back here as we can all see what is going on on other sites but on THIS site, we should be discussing the news and pics posted here. Share an interesting bit or pic from somewhere else when we see it. I do that all the time. Email Julie with an article I saw somewhere else. Sometimes she posts it and sometimes she finds something else to post…no big deal.

• Tia
  May 8, 2008 at 1:01 pm

  I go away for a few mins and come to all these.

  NOS: I think Lauren has been doing pretty good the last couple of days. I agree she should move on from old posters but that should be for everyone. I posted something on JJ and someone made a comment regarding that comment here so its not just Lauren.

  And it has nothing to do with URL. Some people are not using a real email address. For instance I don’t use my real email address because of all the spam I get. Plus, I don’t want to revolve my life around this website by clicking on the “notify me of followup comments via emails”.

• Tia
  May 8, 2008 at 1:06 pm

  NOS: Just saw the comment by Libra. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

  Can you both just drop this!

  Lauren, just forget about the people from “the hate site” and keep on making your point using facts and pics.

• concerned mom
  May 8, 2008 at 1:12 pm

  Oh Tia. I will have to go to jj and see what you posted! LOL I surf all over the place, post on a few ‘fave’ places and just ‘try’ to stay out of trouble. LOL

• Tia
  May 8, 2008 at 1:19 pm

  Mom: It was a couple of weeks ago, not sure if u can find it and its wasn’t a big deal, I only mentioned it because everyone should follow the rules not just as fans.

  My comment was about Katie’s dress sense, I said she dresses much better than some of the other trashy celebs in Hollywood (not exact words).

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 1:33 pm

  Tia: I agree Lauren has been doing better the last few days, but she is starting to escalate her behavior again. She can’t make it three days without bringing up Libra and comments from other posts. I am just trying to cut her off at the pass.

  Thanks for clarifying things. I don’t get the computer stuff. I just am remembering what Julie said about Lauren is still here posting.

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 1:38 pm

  From an observer at the MET Gala:

  “At the Armani table, Julia Roberts and Victoria Beckham bonded over motherhood, while Tom Cruise leaned over Katie Holmes and licked her neck.”

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 1:40 pm

  Here is the link:
  http://www.gossipgirls.com/tom-cruise/tomkats-broadway-date-night

  “Continuing to make the most of their trip to New York City, Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes had an eventful Saturday night in the Big Apple.

  Striding around in a killer pair of Christian Louboutin heels, Katie, along with her Top Gun hubby, attended the Broadway play “The Country Girl” at the Bernard B Jacobs Theatre. The Hollywood supercouple also grabbed a bite to eat with Jerry Seinfeld’s wife, Jessica.

  Upon returning back to their hotel, Katie rested a supportive hand on her husband’s back as he signed autographs for fans.

  A source on the scene tells: “TomKat then listened intently to a hotel guest who shared a personal tragedy with the couple. As they finally entered their hotel having promised to do what they could to help the guest, even the doorman wanted the pair to stop for a chat before they could retire for the night!”

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 1:41 pm

  Enjoy the new gossip, the strange and the stranger!!

• concerned mom
  May 8, 2008 at 2:01 pm

  True enough Tia. I love some of her dresses, etc. This orange/red one and the makeup?? Didn’t quite look right on her. I don’t even have a problem with the shoes.. LOL Just a ballroom length dress should touch the floor no matter what shoes you wear. Had she had on flats that would have looked good I think. Now that makeup–she is a beautiful young woman but that is sort of scary. I would like to see her dressing younger and more fun looking.

• amy
  May 8, 2008 at 3:53 pm

  katie’s ring (in the first pic) is nearly as big as suri’s wrist!!

  wow - no wonder she looks so tired all the time - lugging that rock around!! and yes, i know it’s her engagement ring - i have seen it before - but it just looks so much bigger now her fingers are that much thinner!! - i would be scared of it falling off!

• jajorge
  May 8, 2008 at 3:56 pm

  lauren, since you are such a practitioner of FLEXIBLE POLITICS, i’m sure you’d find it easy to find the BEST in people whose opinions differ from yours. you don’t come across as FLEXIBLE, i am sorry to say. but extremely biased in your own way, and somewhat extreme.

• jajorge
  May 8, 2008 at 3:57 pm

  sorry, but this orange/red dress doesn’t work for me. i think it’d be great for a halloween costume. who knows? maybe that’s what she was thinking with the make-up.

• jajorge
  May 8, 2008 at 3:59 pm

  oh, that’s the met.
  above, with suri, i think katie looks actually happy, somewhat normal. not zombied out. nice!

• concerned mom
  May 8, 2008 at 4:24 pm

  well jj it WAS some sort of ‘costume’ gala wasn’t it?? LOL

• tyler
  May 8, 2008 at 4:38 pm

  she looks good in red but the red makeup masked around her eyes looked weird. and the shoes, i won’t even go there.

• amy
  May 8, 2008 at 4:45 pm

  those shoes are just plain WRONG!!, unless your wonderwoman on your night off and out to a random ball - then - they rock!!

• concerned mom
  May 8, 2008 at 5:12 pm

  ok jj you were talking about the pic actually for this thread of discussion.. Yes I think the only time I ever see her happy is when she has Suri with her.

• jajorge
  May 8, 2008 at 7:15 pm

  you know what it is? i think the dress by itself would look nice with ballerina flats as someone suggested and/or hair swept off the face b/c the dress skirt makes it ballerinaesque. it’s katie’s hair that i think doesn’t go with the dress. i don’t know why but the head is like some pumpkin top or something.

• concerned mom
  May 8, 2008 at 9:13 pm

  you are so right! I actually like the dress-it is Hollyweird after all. The gown needs to touch the floor and a nice updo would have fit much better. I don’t get the sort of red makeup either but it was dramatic I guess.

• No one Special
  May 8, 2008 at 9:19 pm

  It was a Superhero costume party. KH came as the Super Fruit Roll-up :)!

• concerned mom
  May 9, 2008 at 1:29 am

  Oh NOS! funny one. Hope you don’t get rant girl on you!

• Lauren
  May 9, 2008 at 5:08 am

  It is nice to see so many people with their diffrent views. You are all full of ‘do as I say but not as I do’.

  Doesn’t Libra lurk here all the time? If she doesn’t why the comment that Tyler sent me? CM, you post at freekatie, where lurking on other sites and copying and discussing comments on tomkat fan sites is the norm. Now look at you here crying foul. This is the hypocricy that really bothers me.

  Amy, get help for yourself first. Your venom against Tom and Katie who are strangers and cannot even fight back against your attacks is unhealthy. Very unhealthy. I have seen what you post on many sites and I you must be joking if you think any one but you needs help ASAP.

  Just to point out, most of you non fans hardly have any new ideas. They are from you so called informats or mentors or whatever you call them. You post here what they have posted on other sites, you regurgitate their ideas. Plagiarism is worng. LOL. Case in point, the ratings numbers from Perez Hilton, the amounts that Suri’s cake, Katie being happy only when she is with Suri, Redstone and Cruise, Connor not on IMDB, pretty much everything you say is either Libra’s or NG’s idea. How hypocrical of you then to say that I bring here stuff from other sites when you hardly have anything original in your heads. Be ware of systematic brainwashing from your friends. Most of them are former scientologist after all.

• Lauren
  May 9, 2008 at 5:10 am

  Thanks Tia for the encouraging words. Being nice to nasty people is a big challenge. I try my best. I can see snide remarks are back!

• amy
  May 9, 2008 at 6:51 am

  lauren - as i stated before, you truly do need help -urgently - simply ‘reguritating’ MY advice to you does not deflect away from that fact

  once AGAIN - i DO NOT post on ‘many’ other sites - there are SEVERAL amy’s in this world

  and as for ‘venom’ - it is not ME who appears to have it running through my veins that’s for sure!!

  and as for your comments about none of us having any of our own original idea’s - based on the examples above - does that mean that when someone says ‘ooh isn’t tom so wonderful’ that the next person who comments the same line is ALSO displaying that THEY TOO have no original idea’s of their own?? how ridiculous!!!!

  gee - haven’t you realised - in life, there will ALWAYS be people who see things in the same way as you and people who DON’T..

  once again - your nastiness is unnecessary and shocking - i don’t see why us so called ‘non fans’ should have to be regularly abused in such a vicious manner by a cyber stalker - or get critisized when we stand up for our right to our own opinions -

• Lauren
  May 9, 2008 at 8:41 am

  I see you are not vicious at all. Read your comments my dear and you will know what vicious is. You are as nasty as they come. At least I have not resorted to visiting sites of celebrities I don’t like to comment on the site of their ring and make snide remarks about it.

  Practice what you preach. Your nastiness though unneccessary is not that shocking because I have encountered you on other sites and Tomkat threads and you never seem to have anything nice to say. You also do seem angry and bitter most of the time. No one asked you to ooh or aah but petty snide remarks are too juvenile and tiring.

• Tia
  May 9, 2008 at 8:54 am

  OMG! Can you guys just drop this and comment on the topics! Its getting annoying!

• No one Special
  May 9, 2008 at 8:55 am

  JULIE:

  I am surprised this nastiness is still allowed. As i said before, I don’t think you or B5 care about this siutuation with Lauren.

  I will no longer be posting here until it is dealt with.

  Con Mom, Lili, Bumble, jajorge, Tyler, and others,

  I encourage you to leave as well. Maybe when the hypocrits at B5 take it in the wallet, they will be more willing to deal with Lauren and her nasty posts.

• Tia
  May 9, 2008 at 9:02 am

  NOS: am I allowed? Lol! Just kidding.

• amy
  May 9, 2008 at 9:09 am

  um, er, sorry, i am confused here…

  lauren - YOU visit sites that are ANTI the celebrity you cherish - you have even quoted from “i HATE tom cruise”

  now, whilst i DON’T like tom - my feelings for katie and suri are easily detached from my feelings for him - hence why i visit this site

  Why would you choose to go to the ihatetomcruise site, and even libra’s new site KNOWING FULL WELL that they are NOT fan sites unless you intend to cause trouble - it is not as if you even have guts to comment, you simply read then run back here to repeat or taunt others -

  so i take it then by your logic in your comments about me posting everywhere that EVERY lauren i now encounter online is YOU - glad that is cleared up

  which ‘other sites’ have you encountered me on? you keep saying that but don’t say where

  I find your cyberstalking really creepy and disturbing - i hope you don’t have children - it appears you mustn’t have much time left for them with this obsession you have developed

  people with low self esteem often develop crushes on celebrities and take that to extreme levels - these people, due to their frustrations with themselves, can also be extremely aggressive and volatile - these kinds of people really need to put their hands up and ask for help

  there IS life outside these GOSSIP blogs

• amy
  May 9, 2008 at 9:12 am

  tia - it is an entirely open site, where no comments are edited or deleted - so if you wanted to go and comment you should feel free to do so

• Tia
  May 9, 2008 at 9:41 am

  Thanks for that Amy but I take it its not a fan site so I’ll give it a miss.

  Is it a nonfan/hate site? If so why? I don’t get it?

• amy
  May 9, 2008 at 10:00 am

  it’s not a ‘fan’ site - no
  but it ISN’T a hate site - the only thing hated on that site - as on MANY MANY other sites is probably scientology - and that is because most of the posters there have spent time investigating the cult themselves and have all formed their own informed opinions

  it’s a gossip site - same as this, but where everyone contributes news, pics, links, etc
  and all feel free to comment however we please knowing that we won’t get censored, deleted or blocked

  there isn’t any hostility towards each other and all opinions are discussed and debated without it ever getting personal to each other

  sometimes the comments are factual and serious, other times people just have a laugh

  i would personally suggest that you go to the new tom cruise site as that is for fans - the majority of people on this site we are talking about are NOT tom cruise fans, like myself for example -

  katie and suri - that is a different matter

• Lauren
  May 9, 2008 at 10:04 am

  Amy calm down. As I don’t have any more time for you. I redirect your post back to you. Just change Lauren to Amy. Mind you, it is a very low esteem that drives one to trash a stanger and make snide remarks about them every day. And no I don’t visit those sites, check Justjared and you will find all that I have posted here. My advice to all you and your friends is to get a life and try doing something positive. Trying not attacking TC and see whether you will get anything out of me. Why do nasty people fear any criticism? I thought there was freedom of sppech. Why is it that the very people attacking Julie for moderating are always calling on her to moderate all the time. Not that I do not appreciate her efforts.

  Tia thank you for being neutral. I can see non fans cannot see how their fellow non fan is being very nasty. Then again their sole purpose is to be nasty, so am not surprised.

• Lauren
  May 9, 2008 at 10:08 am

  Another non fan using Katie and Suri as an excuse. Yet she did not say anything when Suri was called autistic and called Katie a zombie. Always trying to point out how unhappy Katie is. Is that a fan? Please….

• amy
  May 9, 2008 at 10:17 am

  hahaha

  whatever -

  you are obviously just out looking for arguments

  i am so bored with you lauren, it’s the same old attacks again and again, day after day - boring boring boring- nothing original….

  go and pick on someone else for a while - i am not interested in you or your opinion, unlike the way you seem to be obsessed with me and my opinions - poor thing… focus on tom and not me ok - you make me feel uncomfortable

• Julie
  May 9, 2008 at 10:27 am

  Okay, I can see the comments here are getting out of hand. I am closing comments for this post. I hate to do that, but I can see that it is necessary.

  As far as the commenting…I am really sorry that I have been missing in action and haven’t been able to moderate things better. I just got internet in my new home last night. Please understand that this move was extremely hard and I haven’t been able to watch this blog or any of my other ones closely. Starting today I will watch comments closer. I will be once again abiding by the comment policy very strictly.

  Your comments will be deleted if you attack another poster, make comments about what someone commented on another site, bring up past comments on this site before I took over, attack Tom, Katie and Suri in an unnecessary manner or are just downright rude.

  Consider this a first warning. If you can not abide by the comment policy, you will not be allowed to comment here anymore. Please comment on THE POST itself and not each other.

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