Nicole Kidman Says Tom Cruise Manipulates Their Children
I haven’t seen a statement from Nicole Kidman’s camp saying that this story isn’t accurate, so I’ll report it. If it turns out not to be true, I’ll update this post. Anyway…
Heat Magazine has a quote from Nicole Kidman and it is taking the internet by storm. Nicole tells Heat magazine, “It’s a pity they have been manipulated by the father to distance themselves from me.”
She’s obviously speaking about her children Isabella and Connor Cruise.
She said she tried to arrange a Mother’s Day visit, but the kids ended up spending time with Tom and Katie instead. “They are closer to their new mom now,” she admitted.
I know that we all saw pictures of their kids on Mother’s Day and they were with Tom and Katie. I really hope that this story isn’t true because if it is, it’s just awful. I can’t imagine not being able to spend Mother’s Day with my kids. I know that we don’t know everything about Nicole, but it has always seemed to me that she was a good mother and that she loves Isabella and Connor.
I’ll keep an eye out for any statements made by either party…
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218 opinions for Nicole Kidman Says Tom Cruise Manipulates Their Children
concerned mom
May 27, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Welcome to the Scientology way. Disconnection–it is real and being used today. Check out the exscientology kids site. Their stories about growing up in, living in and finally escaping from this –according to a recent finding in the UK court-system- cult tell so much about this. All the rumors about NK being a ‘bad mother’ and not caring are part of the whole fair game system. Since she didn’t join, her kids are probably being told she is an SP-enemy of the church. Don’t know much about the publication itself but what better way for NK to have ‘deniability’ than to put her story out in a lesser publication? Her story gets told, she can deny it as — a consider the source–.. In fact, I look for her to deny it. At the end of the day, all the people involved are victims of COS even TC– although he is probably too far in to be able to get out at this point.
Lauren
May 27, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Concerned mom, come off it. This is heat magazine. I hope you apologise for the rant when NK’s camp comes out with a denial.
Having said that, I am shocked that someone who cannot move closer to her kids can turn around and complain that they are distancing them from her. I am only saying this if this is true, which am sure it is not because I can’t see Nicole telling heat magazine this. British magazine are the worst when it comes to sleeze.
Any how, she was helping her husbadn in rehab in 2005 for 6 months and went off to Europe to do movies for most part of 2006. I hope she bought a house in LA as rumours have it because as a parent, you have to make sacrifices when it comes to your kids.
tyler
May 27, 2008 at 3:22 pm
for once, i agree with part of what lauren says. nk needs to move closer to her kids, as hard as that may be. i would have moved in next door to the tiny little c—- and made sure i was there to see my kids every day. of course, tiny tom hasn’t been home much over the past couple of years either so it’s doubly sad because they had neither parent. if you’ll recall, he has been galavanting the world with his third wife and his magical child. of course, you’ll never see that noted in lauren’s comments.
Mary
May 27, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Sometimes I wonder just how gullible Nk believes the public is.
She is actually accusing her ex-husband of manipulating their kids who are now teenagers, teenagers whom she herself said have a say in where they want to be. She had no complaints about previous Mothers’ Days………..Not last year, not in any if the previous 7 years since her divorcefrom TC.
She had no complaints of manipulation or distancing when she had Bella in Australia last year and taking her into a salon and her wanting to have her hair dyed blue, no complaints when Conor spent several weeks as she said working on the set of Australia last year as well.
She had no complaints of distancing or manipulation when she took them to the Nickelodeon Awards last year.
This is the same mother who says she moved to TN for her personal life, has made comments with regards to her kids that gas made even her most ardent supporters cringe.
I sincerely hope that those remarks are not attributed to her.
tyler
May 27, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Mary, you obviously know little about mothering. Those kids belong with her.
Mary
May 27, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Tyler Bella and Conor were with Tom when he was filming M:I:3 in Italy and for some of the promotion.
I am not at all sure about Germany though.
Tuna Subway
May 27, 2008 at 3:30 pm
I think these quotes are a lie. The magazine saying it is a trashy tabloid magazine like UK version of Enquirer. I doubt Nicole Kidman would give them an interview. I’m pretty sure this one ain’t true. There are no pictures of it. And I’ve only seen one source for it. The only source it originally came from was Spybiz UK
Mary
May 27, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Then Tyler she should have fought for them!
Tuna Subway
May 27, 2008 at 3:43 pm
I think that our culture is so far down. Just wait till we have our own 9.0 Earthquake here, and everybody remembers the humanity and stops with all this trash talking of other people, especially people they don’t know. It needs to stop.
Tuna Subway
May 27, 2008 at 3:46 pm
I just noticed something funny. All those little circular balls surrounding Nicole. I wonder what they are. Looks like drops of water.
PuckHappy
May 27, 2008 at 4:23 pm
I will believe it is true until I hear otherwise. After all, if the tabs make tt look good then it’s true so vice versa is only fair!
concerned mom
May 27, 2008 at 5:01 pm
I am not saying that I believe this particular publication at all. Just saying that if NK wanted to get a story out about her side, it would be a good place to put it out there–as she most surely will deny this whole story. I don’t believe she is coming out yet with her side of the whole situation, but when and/or if she does–she could blow the lid off the whole cult. I believe the smartest thing for her to do is to go completely public because that is where her greatest protection lies. Like Jason Beghe–what can they really do to him now that his story is all out there?? Good move.
concerned mom
May 27, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Not a fan of NK’s either but I think she has quite a story to tell of her own-Moving to LA will be a very good decision for her. However, as she moves there, of course TC and crew are probably moving to NY for a while for the play. If it were me, I would live wherever my children were.
Mary
May 27, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Concerned Mom I don’t know that NK could blow the lid off the whole cult.
According to Jason Beghe:
Tom Cruise, he says, was out for several years. “He was brought back in around the time of his divorce from Nicole Kidman.
For NK to come out with her side of the whole situation she would have to explain how as a mother she did not fight for her children or made any effort to be near them yet she could make comments like she moved to TN for her personal life.
Kathy
May 27, 2008 at 8:23 pm
I think Kidman has too much to hide and will therefore never talk against Cruise or COS. If her kids are being kept from her, all she needs to do is call her lawyer. Those rumuors about a house in LA were denied by both her rep and even her husband in a recent interview. As far as sacrifices go, Kidman was quoted recently as saying that her kids have to sacrifice because of her career. They have to travel the world to see her. I’m sorry, but the kids are the last ones who should have to sacrifice. Also, this is Kidman’s third Mother’s Day in row that she didn’t see her kids. Last year she was filming in Australia and the year before that she was filming in New York. Maybe having a biological child of her own will make her maternal instincts kick in and make her rethink some of her choices and maybe slow down in her movie making. She already has close to a half dozen projects lined up after the baby comes.
jenna
May 27, 2008 at 10:34 pm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm - 67k -
linty389
May 28, 2008 at 12:12 am
First…I doubt she said that. She’s never spoken negatively about Tom with regards to the kids, and I don’t think she’d start in a British tabloid.
Second…am I the only one who finds it odd that NK spent a ton of time with her children until KH made her appearance in Tom’s life and Tom started speaking so enthusiastically about Scientology? There must be some explanation for why she was such a big part of their lives until then, and then she suddenly spends so little time with them??? It makes no sense!
Annie
May 28, 2008 at 1:37 am
i think andrew morton described nk, in his book ,as cold @a prima dnna. i will also call her a hypocrite . ”i am so shy nicole”, that is her favourite phrase, did’nt think of her 8 @6 yr old children when she appeard totally starkers on stage every night ….the difference between her @tc, is ,she’ she’s sly; @ he says whatever comes to mind…….seeing stepmothers don’t have good reputations, kh must be doing something right………i don’t believe you can buy a 15 @13 year old , paticularly when they have had everything money can buy all their life.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 2:30 am
OMG! You’re arguing over a quote made up by one of the worst trashy tabloid magazine? Heat is like UK version of Life & Style and Star magazine in the UK. If NK gave an interview to that magazine then I’m George Bush. That magazine only gets interviews from the likes of Big Brother rejects, they never done an interview with an A List celebrity.
If this turn out to be true then NK once again has used TC and the kids.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 2:34 am
Jenna, last I check this isn’t a John Travolta or Scientology website! So please stop posting non-sense!!
Jane
May 28, 2008 at 2:55 am
Yes, Andrew Morton said a lot of things about NK. I haven’t read the book but from the reviews I read the books says she wasn’t/isn’t a good mom. Maybe they divorced because of that.
Here are some reviews about the book.
By Bunceman “Mark” (Australia) -
For me, the thing I took away about this book is the patheticness of Nicole Kidman. Tom came through reasonably unscathed, but she comes accross as extremely snobbish, demanding and insecure. I was pretty impartial to Tom Cruise before reading this book. but I am now a definite fan. I am also not a Scientologist. I don’t agree with the religion, but as far as I am concerned, he can follow any creed he wants.
By Alphia D. Larkins “mimi3plus3″ (Acworth, Georgia United States) -
I was expecting a “tell-all” and scandalous account of Tom’s life, but was pleasantly surprised to learn that this is not the case at all. Actually, most of it is very flattering to him, as far as I am concerned.
He comes off as a very likeable, lovely and caring human being. If anything, I admire him more now than I did before reading the book, and I was a huge fan even before reading it. He seems to be a lonely young man seeking approval of his fellow actors and wants to be real friends with them, not just working acquaintances. And if the book is true, they all respect and like him and have remained friends with him and have been his good friends for years, like Sean Penn (I was surprised to learn that they were ever friends) and Emilio Estevez. The other actors that he has worked with have nothing bad to say about him. The
ex-wives come off much worse, which surprised me greatly. I was a huge fan of Nicole Kidman and always assumed that their divorce was Tom’s fault, and that she was such a nice, sweet young lady, but have revised my opinion of her after reading this book. She treated Tom unkindly a lot of the time and did not appreciate the wonderful manner and ways that Tom tried to show his love for her. And Mimi Rogers doesn’t even deserve a mention, she was too old for Tom to begin with! I have never understood why he married her and am still as puzzled about that as I was before the book.
Tom seems to have been a better father to the two adopted children, Isabella and Connor, than Nicole was/is then or now. The only one that comes off really bad is the Church of Scientology.If the facts in this book is correct, and I can’t verify if they are or not, but if they are, then this place is NOT a Church, it is a CULT, not much different than Jim Jones “Church” was, and we all know how that ended. But this cult caters to the rich and famous, and has grown into a world wide organization. I think the people involved in it are drawn to it because of the other celebrities that are involved in it. They can pretend to be religious without really being so. But there is no sense of God or Jesus Christ in this place, only L. Ron Hubbard, and why they are all so fascinated with him, I can’t figure out. He sounds like an old drugged up hippie to me, who eventually lost his mind before dying.
But to each his own, if the members haven’t figured this out on their own, then no one can change their minds, they will have to come to that conclusion on their own. But I cannot condemn Tom Cruise for belonging to it, nor for his loyalty to the “Church.” The last time I heard, we have freedom of religion in this country, so why deride Tom or any of the members of this place, they are entitled to belong to whatever institutions that they choose to, they are free citizens. But I cannot give it the title of “Church” as it seems more like an exclusive (for rich folks) country club than it does any spiritual place. But read the book and make up your own mind. This is what I got from the book, perhaps you will see it differently. However, Andrew Morton has not done a “hatchet job” on Tom so don’t expect that. I am glad that I have read this book, it certainly was not what I was expecting.
Annie
May 28, 2008 at 3:53 am
when suri was born and all the news,was, who sent gifts @flowers etc, when they wrote that she sent a bouqet, she intructed her publicist,wendy something or other,to deny it…..saying ….”miss kidman did not send flowers”, promting one journalist to write , that some things are best left unsaid! ………..every body , is so bent on blaming tc for everything under the sun that they choose to ignore things or overlook them…….. i cannot believe that he felt comfortable or happy having his wife parade around the stage every night naked, seeing he does come across as a bit possessive……..
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 3:56 am
“Julie said:I know that we all saw pictures of their kids on Mother’s Day and they were with Tom and Katie.”
This is NOT true. There is no pics of the kids on mother’s day. The pics you’re talking about were taken a day before mother’s day.
Annie
May 28, 2008 at 4:16 am
hana…..you are so right, i think mary said the same thing,the pictures of the cruise family were taken day before mothers day …….all it takes is one person to write something and everybody follows suit.
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 4:19 am
Tyler, when Tom was at each of his children’s games, they said he was using them for PR. Now whenever we don’t see him with them for a spell, he has abandoned them for his golden child. Either way he can’t win. These children are teenagers who have a say in their lives. You can’t just haul them form place to place like that. By the time Katie’s parents went over to see her in Gr, am sure Bella and Connor did too. Just because there are no pictures does not mean it did not happen. After all we only see a teeny weeny fraction of their lives.
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 4:24 am
I am glad every one can see and judge for themselves. Annie, I noticed that people rarely do research but as long as some thing is negative about TC, they are inclined to believe it.
If this is true, and that is a big IF, then she should be ashamed of herself. Uma Thurman moved to NY across the street from former hubby after a bitter divorce to be near her kids. Most mothers do anything to be near their kids not whine about it.
Tia
May 28, 2008 at 4:52 am
I don’t believe this BUT if this turns out to be true then I’ve lost any respect I had left for Nicole Kidman.
How many times is she going to use Tom Cruise and the children?
How many times has she said the kids love LA and that she trying to find a place to be close to them? How long has it been since she first said that and where is that place in LA??…she is looking for a house to be close to HER CHILDREN and not looking for a bloody needle in LA! The fact that she is willing to put the blame on “the father” whom she has said nothing but good things about being a husband and father for PR once again so publicly then she is not fit to be a mother!
jenna
May 28, 2008 at 6:56 am
Never claimed that the Travolta allegation was on a COS website Hana…..the allegation was made by a Mr/Mrs. Kenney who have voiced their opinion regarding autism and the COS. The other article was from an interview with LRH’s biological son in 1983. What I copied and pasted was not “nonsense” as you so eloquently put it, but mere public information from three individuals that have gone on record to quote and share their information and experiences. I located the quotes/interviews and thought it appropriate to post. It may be interesting to some readers to hear the other side of the COS from one of its former creators.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 7:12 am
But this website has nothing to do with JV!
If anyone wants to be informed about JV or the CoS they can do so from that website. You don’t need to post that here at a tomkat site.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 7:16 am
Sorry I meant to say JT.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 7:19 am
Plus, you can just post a link instead of the whole article. I think once you posted the same article five times. At least be considerate for some of us who are not interested in JT or Cos.
Lilianne
May 28, 2008 at 8:45 am
I don’t know if this story is true or not, of course, but even if it is then I do not blame NK for saying something like this if it is true. To be kept from your children would be a terrible thing to go through and to have them turned against you is even worse. Anyone who says otherwise obviously does not have children or has never gone through a divorce where children are in the picture. Yes, it is obviously not good to bash your child’s other parent and to keep personal details private BUT if Nicole is being kept from her children then what recourse does she have? I think that it is all fine to keep things private and to keep your personal opinions about your ex-spouse out of the picture but Conner and Bella are old enough now to hear BOTH sides and to make a decision for themselves. Also, people can say all they want about how NK should have bought a house in LA to be nearer her kids and she should have this and she should have that BUT what is the point if she is NOT allowed to see them? She could live in their back yard for goodness sake but if she is not allowed to see them then what would be the point?
looika
May 28, 2008 at 8:51 am
jenna,
thanks for the link. Suri is a cutie, isn’t she.
Leenee
May 28, 2008 at 9:02 am
This is from a VERY trashy tabloid and until Nicole’s camp confirms it, all this bru-ha-ha is just a waste of time. (Yawn)
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 9:04 am
Lilianne, we’re only going by what NK has been saying herself.
Someone posted quotes from her stating LA is a big draw for the kids and I need to find a place there to be close to them (meaning she can see them).
Over the years she had no problem and she has said nothing but nice things about both the children and their father, and that is the reason so many are saying this is not true but if it turns out to be true…why now? And why say all those things about the children over the years? Isn’t she contradicting herself?
If this is true, they’ve joint custody and if she cared enough for the kids why not fight for them? Afterall she’s willing to talk about this in the media…
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 9:14 am
NK wasn’t claiming manipulation and distancing ever before.
This is from her husband in an interview he did with People magazine in the November 12, 2007 issue.
PEOPLE MAGAZINE: How is your relationship with Bella and Conor(Nicole’s kids with Tom Cruise)
KEITH URBAN:(They’re) fantastic. I just talked to Bella(14) and Conor(12) yesterday. A lot of people in that situation, it’s not as fluid as it is for us. (The kids) have come out to Australia a few times. It’s great. We all get along very, very well.
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 9:43 am
Annie, I just watched 17 interviews of Nicole Kidman and NOT ONE TIME did she EVER say or even hint that she was shy.
OR did she mention tt name.
kaykaywife
May 28, 2008 at 10:16 am
Hana, Last time I checked this wasn’t the Hana website. So please stop telling people what to post or not post. leave that to Julie. Ok!
And for your 411 the cult of Scientology is a big part of tom cruise, and not talking about it in the tomkatcrazy website would be impossible. Please remember its not the Hana site.. You don’t call the shots here.
Anon
May 28, 2008 at 10:22 am
Morton mentions in his book that Nic visits by web cam because Cruise WON’T LET HER SEE THE KIDS!! This statement in HEAT mag. is something that is already common knowledge.
I read in WOMAN’s DAY earlier this year that Katie has expressed concerns that TC won’t let Bella and Connor see their MOM!! I think KH is very well aware of what will happen if TC trades her in for a younger model. She will be visiting Suri by web cam!!
Also, how many movies has Cruise paraded around naked in: I can think of a few!!
What about moving your knocked up latest honey in the house two nanoseconds after you met her? That has to have an impact on the kids.
What about making out with your knocked up honey in front of the kids at public places? That has an impact on the kids.
Seriously, you folks think Tom Cruise is the greatest thing in the world since the invention of the wheel. News Flash: HE IS NOT PERFECT at anything. None of us are because we are all human!! It is also amazing that anything that makes Cruise or Holmes look bad is automatically false and anything positive is automatically true. Get over your Cruise worship or all you guys Scientologists who are supposed to worship number TWO in Scientology and his Scientology Princess Suri!!
What about telling the press that your two-year old bio is your only reason for living? That impacts teens.
What about telling the press that you can’t leave your bio child home when you travel, but you can dump the adopted kids in camp for the summer and move them to their aunts house while you live somewhere else with the wife and toddler? That has to hurt.
What about telling the press that you are hoping for a son for number two baby because you always wanted a son? That has to hurt.
Anon
May 28, 2008 at 10:25 am
KayKay: This group is good at telling people what to think and to leave if they don’t post what they (lauren, Tia, etc.) want!!
And Julie allows it!!
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 10:51 am
kaykaywife, everyone here tells others what to do. So what is wrong in telling people to follow the RULES as stated by Julie? :)
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 10:55 am
Anon: Juile does everything to please the non-fans too, that including posting gossips.
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 10:57 am
Hana, TC=Cos. It is who he is. How can anyone not have gotten that simple fact yet? He is not the characters in Top Gun or MI. Repeat, he is not the characters in Top Gun or MI.
kaykaywife
May 28, 2008 at 11:05 am
Hana, You should leave that part to Julie. Unless you are a host and Julie is paying you to be her right hand it’s completely ridiculous that you are telling people what to do or not to do.. Don’t you think?? I mean who do you think you are?? And just because according to you ” everybody does it” doesn’t mean that you have to do it too! Don’t be ignorant and play nice.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 11:05 am
Anon: I’m going through your comments and I wish i had more time to comment.
Why is it you guys are allowed to make up just about anything and we the fans have to provide link or quotes otherwise you ask us if we know them personally or “have they said that to you”.
No one said TC is PERFECT! He is not and neither is NK and neither you and I!
Tom has NEVER said suri is his reason to live!
Tom NEVER said to the press he can’t leave Suri at home when he travels!
You don’t know where his older children have been living….just speculating so don’t stated that as if its a fact.
“What about telling the press that you are hoping for a son for number two baby because you always wanted a son? ”
This has to be the most laughable thing you said (and very sad at the same time) i hope you don’t have any children to be making up thing like this and using those words about family you have never met! you keep referring to his CHILDREN as bio and adopted is just DISGUSTING! And you want us to take your comments seriously.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 11:07 am
kaykaywife, I’m not the only one to do it! I’ve sent a couple of emails to Julie and she hasn’t replied so if I think someone is not following the rules I’ll point it out just like other have done and are doing.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 11:10 am
Tyler: I get it and if the topic is about cos then, I understand but TC has said he will separate his work from his faith on his latest interview so its about time we should do.
I’ve notices what most of the non-fans are doing is bring up Cos on every thread.
concerned mom
May 28, 2008 at 11:18 am
Jenna, some great points. Thanks. Back to Jane, if this unauthorized biography wasn’t negative on TC, why did the author and his family go into hiding before its release? And why did they not release it in the UK-when the CoS threatened serious lawsuits?
Oh the site is hopping today..
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 11:19 am
Hana, he had to say that in order to try to save himself. It was a PR stint, plain and simple.
concerned mom
May 28, 2008 at 11:21 am
And Hana, just as TC says he is going to separate his work from his ‘religion’ he is extremely busy trying to get celebs of ALL ages into the cult. All kinds of stories hitting the web on his recent attempts at friendship with young celebs as well as well known ones. Friendship, when you are a COS member means one thing to TC and that is to draw them into membership in what he considers a higher plane of existence.
Lilianne
May 28, 2008 at 11:22 am
Hana..I don’t want to get in the middle of your little war with others here but you should know something. When Katie went on Letterman back in January she was asked about having more children. She made the comment then that “they” would love to have a son someday. That is not something that Anon made up…I just thought you should know. Maybe you ought to consider checking things out before you make fun of others?
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 11:25 am
Concern mom said: why did the author and his family go into hiding before its release?
MSNBCmedia.msn.com/Today Show: British tabloid Daily Express apology regarding the TC unauthorized biographer story
On Nov 11 in the page 12 column headed ‘Cruise’s fury at Morton’ it was reported that Andrew Morton had run into serious trouble when writing a biography of Tom Cruise because of threats from Scientologists.
It is now accepted that this is not true and that Mr Morton has not received threats or that he was forced to sell his flat and move underground to write the book.
We apologize to the Church of Scientology and its members for the embarrassment and distress caused by the article.
*Edited by moderator - put link in url box*
kaykaywife
May 28, 2008 at 11:28 am
Hana, Even though he did say that he was going to separate work from faith It’s almost impossible to talk about Tom Cruise and not bring up the topic of C.O.S. Why? this site is about everything Tom and Katie are and last time I checked they are full blown scientologists. Example: Imagine a site about a famous alcoholic and not talking about alcohol or a Site about Amy winehouse and not talking about cocaine.. (Etc) Point is Tom is scientology and it happens to be a very dangerous cult, So common sense tells you that people are going to be interested and talking about it. and you know what?? the more people know the better so thanks Tom!! I just don’t understand how people don’t get that C.O.S= TC
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 11:28 am
Liliannesaid:That is not something that Anon made up…I just thought you should know. Maybe you ought to consider checking things out before you make fun of others?
Well, I’ve no idea about what Katie said,…but yes I’ve checked and Tom has NEVER said that. :)
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 11:31 am
kaykaywife, I didn’t say never bring it up but why bring it up on every thread when its not even necessary.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 11:34 am
mom said: All kinds of stories hitting the web on his recent attempts at friendship with young celebs.
TC is not responsible for the rubbish the tabs made up. Don’t believe everything you read. :)
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 11:40 am
What I find interesting is that when it came out that Bella and Connor call kh ‘mom’, the tt FANS were accusing Nicole of going off and leaving her children and just plain not caring about them and NEVER seeing them.
NOW that Nicole speaks out saying that tt is standing in the way and she never gets to see her children, the tt fans say that Connor and Bella are ALWAYS with Nicole and they (tt fans) can even quote NK and KU as saying they are always together.
Which ever way the wind blows!
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 11:46 am
Hana- TRUE, tt is NOT responsible when the tabs print ‘rubish’ and he is known to sue when they do. He has not sued lately because PICTURES are printed as PROOF that he is befriending the younger generation.
TRL ring a bell? He did NOT have to appear on that show or BET either.
kaykaywife
May 28, 2008 at 11:49 am
Why not bring it up in every thread?? Let the judging part to the people that get paid to run this website. Why do you insist in taking the job of telling people what to say and do? It’s annoying. If You are a true TC fan do some research about his religion. Like I said, it’s a BIG part of his life (it’s basically who he is). All that info is out there and maybe after you do maybe your opinion about the topic will change.
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 12:17 pm
PuckHappy: It’s not every way the wind blows. What NK is saying/accusing TC of now is in direct contradiction to everything both she and KU have said about Bella and Conor.
I watched that Letterman and I can’t recall KH saying they wanted a boy.
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 12:22 pm
When NK says she never gets to see her children, it’s a bold-faced lie!
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Wow, Mary. Now NK is a bold-faced liar. What does that make TC?
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Yes Tyler if these comments attributed to her are verified as true…………..Yes she is!
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 12:39 pm
I believe that if the comments are true, and she wasn’t allowed to see the kids on Mother’s Day, that might have pushed her over the edge. Wouldn’t blame her. Of course, this may all be speculation. For all we know, she may have a great relationship with both of them. I do find it odd that someone who defends TC would have the nerve to call others a liar. Did you watch the Oprah interview?
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 12:54 pm
I would hope wth all my heart that those comments were not made by NK. I, for now will give her the benefit of the doubt because that particular magazine is known for being a notorious
rag far worse than any in the US.
If NK does stand by the statement that she does not see her kids then she is in my opinion a bold -faced liar.
If she didn’t get to see Bella and Conor this Mother’s Day that is not enough reason for her to say something which from her and her husband’s statements is clearly not true.
Yes, I did watch the Oprah show.
I am specifically calling NK a liar if those commrnts hold true.
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 1:05 pm
For the records my views on TC are not pre-determined because I am a fan………..For example I was none too happy with his comments about Brooke Shields and some other things.
I do feel however that TC has done right by his kids.
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 1:15 pm
To Anon TC has NEVER said that he wanted a son for the the next one because he’s always wanted a son………..He’s NEVER said that.
concerned mom
May 28, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Wow. The site is interesting today. So many passionate people. I am finding it amusing that the total fans of TC would actually call NK a liar if she said the things reported.
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Sadly Concerned Mom there’s nothing amusing about it……………I find it more than just unfortunate that NK would say something that is not true.
I remember clearly her satelite interview from Australi talking to Jerry Penacoli of Extra speaking of Conor being there and of Bella coming out when asked about her children.
What she is saying about manipulation and distancing is very clearly not true!
By her own
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 1:38 pm
……….To finish: By her own own statements and her husband’s previous statements.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Wow! Interesting!
I’ve just been away and came back and reread some of the comments and its very interesting!
Lilianne, I can’t believe you pick up on my tiny little comment (which btw I wasn’t making fun of but just making my point) over everything Anon has said. Especially since you are a parent…how can you just pass her comments one about Cruise’s children as she deliberately refereed to them as “bio and adopted” like that. I really thought you were one of the FEW who was unbised here.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Where are Tia and Lauren when you need them. LOL!
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 1:45 pm
unbised
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Oops, sorry I meant unbiased.
Hana
May 28, 2008 at 1:47 pm
The difference btween TC and NK is he doesn’t use the children to lie about her!
jenna
May 28, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Hana: if a post was shown 5 times then that was a computer error and by no means intentional. In addition, I did indeed provide a link in my subsequent comment. Thanks to all the earlier posters and their comments regarding the info I shared. Clearly, Hana ,most found the information quite interesting. I appreciate those that indicated that this indeed is not the Hana website. Its a forum for all to share and discuss the lives of TC and KH. Yes, Lookia…Suri is beautiful……she is stunning, actually!!
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I am just curious how anyone here would know FOR A FACT that Nicole is a lair?
It was just a few weeks ago that you were boasting that Nicole NEVER has her children and does not want them.
NOW you say that she has them ALL THE TIME.
Which is it?
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Let me say it again ………..if those statements attributed to NK are true then those comments ARE a direct contradiction to what she and her husband have both said in print and televised.
Anon
May 28, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Example of his double speak. When Cruise said this, he had travelled to Louisianna, France, Germany, and New York ‘as a family’ of three. Bella and Connor were not with them!
“The “Mission Impossible” actor, who has biological daughter, Suri, with his wife Katie Holmes, and two adopted children - Isabella and Connor with former wife Nicole Kidman, insisted he loves them all equally.
The actor revealed, “I wanted to be a father all my life. Truly, it makes no difference to me between my adopted children and Suri. I’ve never separated them in my thoughts - I just don’t feel that way about it.”
Tom Cruise also revealed he is determined to ensure Suri travels all over the world, saying, “I like to encourage my kids to be open to other people, and other ways of life, and to be curious about them. That’s why we like to travel as a family.”
The actor added, “I always say to my children how important it is to try and look at things from someone else’s point of view, and that’s what travel does for you. We can look at other people, see what we have in common with them, and celebrate our differences from them.”
NOTE HE SAYS HE WANTS SURI TO TRAVEL ALL OVER THE WORLD. NO MENTION OF BELLA AND CONNOR GETTING THE SAME PRIVILEGE!!
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Okay, I will rephrase the questions. If, per YOUR POSTS, Nicole NEVER wants to see her children and stays away, then WHY are you NOW saying that she always has them?
Just because she says in ONE interview over TWO YEARS AGO, that she saw her children ONE TIME, does NOT mean that she is allowed to see them NOW.
Anon
May 28, 2008 at 3:02 pm
TC and KH wanting a bio son. Again, the fact Cruise has one already is somehow not important to either of them!!
“Tom Cruise And Katie Holmes Struggle To Have Second Child
Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes are reportedly seeking medical advice following a series of failed attempts to conceive a second child.
The couple is desperate for a son following the birth of daughter Suri in April 2006, but Holmes is alleged to be having difficulty becoming pregnant.”
Why are they desperate for a son if they already have one? Answer: Cruise wants a bio son!!
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 3:05 pm
HE also says that he wants his children to be open to others and other ways of life. As in other ways of thinking.
IF he wants that for his children, I would think he would want the same for those that belong to his cult. And I would also think he would want the same for those that work for his fan based sites.
I am sure that tt would NOT approve of the way the tt lovers tear apart the all around fan.
That is NOT what he is about.
Anon
May 28, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Suri is Tom’s salvation:
“She is Daddy’s little girl, and he doesn’t know what he’d do without her,” a friend of the Cruises tells OK!. “It has been the toughest patch Tom has had since his divorce from Nicole Kidman, Katie [Holmes] has been there for him, of course, and she’s his rock, but when you see him with Suri, you just melt. He adores her.”
BELLA AND CONNOR WERE THERE AFTER THE DIVORCE AND STILL ARE, BUT THEY DO NOT RANK ANYWHERE NEAR SURI!! AND KATIE FOR THAT MATTER.
Anon
May 28, 2008 at 3:08 pm
PUCK: HE WAS DISCUSSING SURI IN THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION!
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 3:10 pm
TC clearly said he has never loved another woman the way he loves Suri’s mom. That was in my opinion huge and I lost what little respect I had for him in that instant.
Anon
May 28, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Why only Suri will travel with them?
Leaving Suri behind with a family member or nanny while the couple shoot their films abroad isn’t an option, Katie says.
We don’t like to be away from her. She’s very aware. We take her to the park in each city and walk around. This summer, when Tom was working in Germany, she’d wake up and say, ‘Hello, Berlin.’
But, leaving Connor and Bella is okay with these two!
Anon
May 28, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Why Bella and Connor were not in Europe last Summer:
Isabella, 14, and Connor, 12, are said to be spending their Summer at a camp outside of Portland, Oregon for children of Scientology. It’s like your basic camp, but they also learn Scientology coursework.
Anon
May 28, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Tyler: That is a cruel thing to say, true or not. I remember when my dad said that to me, it stung and it hurt. Cruise certainly said that a lot throughout the news and I am sure Bella and Connor heard it too.
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 4:11 pm
anon, it most definitely is true. i watched part of his oprah interview and he was very clear about the fact that he never loved any other woman the way he loves katie. he didn’t of course refer to her as suri’s mom at the time, but what’s the difference?
concerned mom
May 28, 2008 at 4:20 pm
The older children have not even been living with the ‘three’ blessed ones. They have been living with apparently one of TC’s sisters who is homeschooling-indoctrinating them deeper into the cult. Normal homeschooling could be done anywhere in the world AND what a rich education actually going to so many countries and places that would be. They even have on-set schools for child actors that sometimes stars put their own children in. Bella and Connor could easily move around the world with TC and crew but for some reason are being denied that opportunity.
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Anon: The tabloids had a lot to say about what Tom and Katie think, feel and hope for.
Thanks for posting all those quotes from the tabloids though.
I do recall Katie saying that Suri is very aware and they don’t like to leave her.
Remember as well that Nk said that Bella and Conor are at an age where they have a say in where they want to be.
I do recall TC saying to an interviewer that at one all the family were together in Germany.
Cruise was told in an interview with Lara Spencer of The Insider that he has a beautiful little girl in Suri and his response was…………
“I have three beautiful children”
When he was promoting M:I:3 both Bella and Conor were with him at certain points.
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Hana, I am back! To your rescue!
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 4:31 pm
NK said she was desperate for a child for the last three years. How do you think that made her adopted children feel? She already had children and yet she was crying for a child like she had none.
How does that compare to taking Suri around the world when Tom in the same interview says he treats his children equally?
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Didn’t non fans complain about Tom taking his two older children to premieres not so long ago?
Tyler, what did you expect him to say when they asked him such a pointed question? He did emphasise that he does not in any way mean to disrespect his former spouses. The question was asked, it needed to be answered. Aren’t you the ones complaining about woolly interviews?
And why are we quoting tabloids? Without authentic sources? Please try to quote interviews which are much more true.
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 4:37 pm
He never said he didn’t mean to disrespect any of his previous spouses. You made that one up.
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Lauren, I’m with you on one thing. I did lose respect for NK for saying she wanted a child for a long time considering she already had two. I couldn’t understand how any mother could say that, even if she was cut off from them. No excuse.
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Nicole is a liar because she went on Oprah and said she had a good relationship with TC and with the kids.
It would be much more prudent to move to LA, go to court and ask for more visitation rights and fight for her kids there than call up HEAT magazine in the UK to complain.
Let’s not forget she sold her house in LA and moved.
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Tyler thank you for realising that. Watch the couch jumping interview and you will see Tom say he respected his former spouses. TC has had only good things to say about NK since the divorce apart from that like of ‘Nic knows why we divorced…’ NK on the other hand makes barbed comments about him from time to time despite saying she loved him and will always loved him. She said she could now wear heels only to ditch them when she found an ever shorter spouse. LOL.
I am really starting to lose respect for her.
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Con mom, TC moved on movie sets with Connor and Bella for years. Now they are grown and you can’t move them like normads any more. Bella is almost 16. Remember he lets them choose what they want and maybe that is what they want. I am sure he is with them right now as he has been most of this year. Tom does one movie a year to be near his children as much as possible. Can you say the some for NK who was in Europe most of 2006 filming?
What has she done to show she is desperate to be near her children apart from calling up heat magazine to whine?
jajorge
May 28, 2008 at 4:53 pm
yup. i remember that show, and he did indeed say something like that. he’d never been in love before, or something to that effect.
tom may be a good father, i don’t know. but on his divorce with nicole, i really thought the way he handled it was telling…i mean, do you end a 10 year marriage with 2 kids by immediately flaunting a new relationship with someone else? and so flagrantly too! i mean, i remember not long after their divorce was announced, there were pictures all over the world of penelope cruz in a skimpy white bikini with tom and bella and connor at some children’s park… i’m not saying that once you divorce, you’d better stay single for a long time….no, you might find someone soon…but there’s always the choice, and one can always be discreet.
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Tyler, TC did say he meant no disrespect to his ex-wives……………….
Entertainment Weekly June 2005.
Good Housekeeping June 2006.
I do agree with you about being appalled by NK’s comment about always wanting a child seeing that she already has two and I don’t always agree with some of the things TC has said either.
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Nicole was wrong to leave her kids, but he’s still a douche. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise.
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Jarjorge, Tom split with Nicole in Feb 2006 and the relationship with Penelope started in July. Now that is long in hollywood. Most people satart dating before one marriage is over and even get their lovers pregnant before the split is announced. Lets not be harsh on poor Tom.
I remem ber seeing TC on Oprah talking about Nicole. He only had nice things to say. Nicole too about Tom on Oprah. Now I guess she has changed her mind.
I am sure if put on the spot like Tom was, she would say she feels for for her current husband as she has said she has never been happier or complete than she is now. Do you see TC crying foul?
Why are you people crying a river for her when she said during her marriage to TC she lost her identity?
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Sorry, Feb 2001
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Tyler: He really isn’t a douche………If you met him I think you’d probably like him.
I met him at a screening, he was lovely.
Lauren
May 28, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Mary every one who has met him says he is a lovely man. I know many do not agree with his beliefs. I personally don’t believe he should a fall for them. There are so many bad people out there. Even non fans cannot say more than five reasons why they dislike him. Most do not think about their selfish desire to attack the Scientology church. Which is sad because what they are doing to him is what they are accusing the church of doing to them. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
linty389
May 28, 2008 at 5:54 pm
I don’t remember Nicole ever saying she was desperate for a child. She did say recently that she really wanted a baby…and I’ve seen interviews with her where they ask her about kids and she said she’d like “one more.” I’ve never heard her talk like she doesn’t already have 2 beautiful children.
I think this is all being blown way out of proportion when she probably didn’t even say these things.
Tyler- I agree with you about that statement he made on Oprah. When you’ve been married twice before, you shouldn’t say something like that…even if it’s true, just out of respect!
kelly
May 28, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Nicole kidman has not wanted to see her kids and then she swoops in to say can I see them mom’s day. Tom has had it with her and said you can’t just reappear when you want to, she is not cpnsistant, and he is a good dad.And by the way she cheated on him, that is why he left her.
Annie
May 28, 2008 at 6:30 pm
andrew morton, wrote in his book, that nk ,was @ is abad mother……i don’t believe that….what i believe ,is, they are not her 1st priority……her career has been! a nanny ,to nk @tc wrote abook about her time in hollywood ,i think it was called , ‘i’llnever work in this town again” something like that, she wrote, that she never saw nicole,with or without the kids! tc used to look after them. there are a lot women in world ,who don’t have a strong maternal bond with their children…..accordingto everyone here , we’ll go through fire @hell to be with our children, so what’s her problem?…nk is respected in hollywood, it’s not like she’s a nobody or doesn’ have millionsat her disposal…….she could always take legal action,and win,if she wanted……
Annie
May 28, 2008 at 6:59 pm
puckhappy…i only ever write ,what i have actually seen ,interiews from respected mags,eg ladies home journal,vogue, vanity fair ,et news clips,from here,in australia, the insider, inside edition ,et,books , that have been written by reputable people ……..i also like to think ,that i am an intelligent human being…….what i don’t do, is,go on gossip sites,read mags like star, famous,et @ believe the rubbish they put out there,or print the worst photo, to go with the story.
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Kelly- your post is totally made up. tt has NEVER said that he ” has had it with her and said you can’t just reappear when you want to, she is not cpnsistant”
IT IS FACT that on the Oprah show just three and a half weeks ago when asked BY OPRAH if Nicole sees her kids he rudely said “Whenever”. He said they have joint custody.
So STOP making up stories.
BESIDES THE FACT THAT ALL OF THE “FANS” HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT tt HAS NEVER SAID ANYTHING BAD ABOUT NICOLE. So IF you are a real fan, get with the program and keep your stories straight!
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 7:26 pm
I believe Nicole’s better off without Cruise. She became her own person.
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Annie, Well I only post what I am told first hand by tt coworkers!
Marie
May 28, 2008 at 7:35 pm
A mother’s s[NK] silence is a weapon that she uses wisely to keep the peace and harmony in order ensuring that each child are kept away from comments such as posted on this page by many.
TC continuously implements publicly mind games used against NK during the most important time of her life. She is carrying a child. My opinion of TC’s intention is to destroy another’s happiness.
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 7:51 pm
What NK silence?………………..She’s the one who is talking not TC!
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 8:36 pm
TC has made a laughing stock not only of himself, but of a 27 year-old girl for whom he walks on water. If he would have practiced silence, much as NK has done, his image wouldn’t be so tarnished.
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Much as NK has done in reference to what?
It is unbelievable to me and even those in the media and even to her supporters that NK continues to talk about Cruise seven years after their divorce!
Marie
May 28, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Obviously TC is in your head Mary…wake-up girl.
Mary
May 28, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Thanks for the advice………………….Don’t need it. :)
I do happen to think NK constantly has TC in her head though, for some inexplicable reason not even marriage can stop her speaking about the man.
Marie
May 28, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Appreciated.:)- unfortunately the best is to be left between the parties to sort it out behind closed doors…..
Annie
May 28, 2008 at 10:11 pm
it’s official!…..tom cruise is always wrong! everthing he does ….everything he says, is always wrong…. he’s a bad man ,bad husband,bad actor,bad father………bad everything! …….it’s ok russell, go throw another phone at someones head, we forgive you,……..keith, you’ve been an alcaholic, used cocaine,forever; had an affair while you were seeing nic,unfortunately you are not front page material,……..so you’re forgiven. oh i forgot their names are not TOM
tyler
May 28, 2008 at 10:22 pm
perez hilton site says nk is having a baby boy
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Congrats to Nicole and her husband!! I am SURE they feel blessed with either another boy OR girl.
I am sure Connor is TOTALLY JAZED to be getting a baby brother And now Bella with have TWO brothers and one sister!
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 10:40 pm
And if all you fans want to talk about affairs….. What about the affair that tt had when he was married to Mimi, just before he had Davey boy arrange the divorce from her? And then there was the affair he was having when he had his BFF arrange his divorce from Nicole. And didn’t we just recently see pics of him and another woman getting all touchy feelly as they were entering a elevator at a hotel?
Aussiechic
May 28, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Nicole Kidman is a great Mother.Tom has lost the plot after divorcing her and getting into this scientology rubbish! Nicole is better off with Keith. He is a hunk and their baby is going to be beautiful.
Annie
May 28, 2008 at 11:03 pm
trust me mary……….the torch is still burning! some people on this site, have said that katie sold her soul for fame @fortune………i say a BIG HA!…..NICOLE sold out to herself she did’twant to lose face,………been on this earth a long time, judging situations, @people , almost becomes second nature. no matter how she pretends, for cameras,after all,she an oscar winner no less………….she has’nt stopped talking about him for 8years,in every mag ,interview, and it’s not for her kids benefit either.. she doesn’t seem to mention him on tv only in the mags. …….ok ,tell me now,to rack off! i’m sure this is’nt going to go down well with some people.
Annie
May 28, 2008 at 11:09 pm
oh yes! ………perez hilton……..now i see things more clearly…….thank you tyler.
PuckHappy
May 28, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Now annie, did Tyler post that perez was saying the absolute truth or did he just do an FYI about what perez had posted?
And IF Nicole only talks about tt in mag interviews, is it possible that the mag added the quotes and it was NEVER words from Nicoles mouth?
Or maybe you’d like to post an attachment of EVERY SINGLE INTERVIEW that Nicole has done over the last eight years as PROOF!
I’d say it would most likely be close to 200-500 world wide magazine publications that she has been quoted AND MISQUOTED!
Susan
May 28, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Mary, you seem to be obsessed with TC.
Annie
May 28, 2008 at 11:49 pm
no puckhappy………these were full photo spreads with the interviews , 2 that come to mind ,was vogue, @a huge interview with , australian womens weekly, pages @pages of it and lots of others……..i have no reason to make this up ….its all out there,puckhappy, all out there.
tyler
May 29, 2008 at 12:11 am
Every single interview Annie? Wow, that’s a lot of interviews. You follow NK that closely? That must take a lot of time.
tyler
May 29, 2008 at 12:13 am
Oops, just saw Annie’s latest comment so scratch mine.
Annie, what were the dates on those interviews you mentioned above? I have a recent interview where she mentioned that she had lost a baby early in the marriage, but it was not about Tom. It was about her situation, her life. Her life no longer revolves around Tom. You’re confusing her with Katie LOL.
Anon
May 29, 2008 at 12:41 am
Let me get this right, the tabs are wrong when Katie is crying to them about Tom and then right when Nicole is doing the crying to them.
How many stories are out there about Katie crying to tabs about controlling Tom or Katie saying that Tom keeps the kids away from their real mother? I can count all of it on both of my hands. But they are wrong!!
Then we get one of Nic and she is this horrible woman and mother because we all know it is soooo true because SHE CAN”T AFFORD A LAWYER!!
Also, Cruise wanted and still wants another baby and that is okay, but Nic wants a baby and it is wrong and she is a bad mother!!
There are a lot of double standards here! But, since most of you are RABID FANS, you have to blame Nic for all of Cruise’s failures in the last ten years. I sure hope Cruise and his trophy can live up to everyone’s expectations of perfection here. Although, I think you will all be disappointed.
There also seems to be a lot people who are in the know about this family…as if they are family friends. How sad for Cruise, Holmes, and Kidman that so many close people to them come to this site to share their personal lives with the rest of us!! It would make me wonder who my ‘friends and associates’ really are.
Personally, I think Nic is in LA more than we know. I can think of several times this year she has been pictured in LA. And that is just pictured!!
Annie
May 29, 2008 at 12:49 am
no tyler,these are going over a few years @ those mags were in a doctors surgery anyway the ladies home journal was only a few months before her marriage and the most recent one was vanity fair which ididn’t buy anyway because all the important bits were plasterd all over the news papers, the reason being ,they ,too found her comments unusual, ‘
@so did the readers…….tyler i don’t make things up to make people look good or bad.
bumblebeej
May 29, 2008 at 12:49 am
The reason NK mentions tom in interviews is cause she always gets asked about him. Look at interviews with Letterman et al. Always, Tom and the kids are brought up. I’m sure the print journos do the same thing.
THE REASON? She was alone until she got together with Keith. The journos stopped asking tom about NK because he moved on quicker.
Anon
May 29, 2008 at 12:54 am
@ means at, not and! This means ‘and’ &
Annie
May 29, 2008 at 12:59 am
GIRLS!……..LETS ALL AGREE ,TO DISAGREE. @ just leave it at that.
PuckHappy
May 29, 2008 at 1:18 am
So Annie, what you are saying is that for the last 8 yrs, Nicole has talked about tt in EVERY SINGLE INTERVIEW, is that correct?
AND yet you only site TWO interviews over the eight yrs and those have full photo spreads as proof.
Now let me ask, did you read her lips in the photo spread to know that she was talking about tt?
Annie
May 29, 2008 at 2:42 am
puckhappy, you know, you’re right, i agree with you completely. yes ,i could’t read her lips ,and yes ,i’ve come to realise,that those mag articles are ”all made up,” so is mortons book and the nannys book, and keith is perfect ….sorry puck my mistake.
Tia
May 29, 2008 at 2:56 am
So much to say so little time. :)
Can’t go through all this right now but from what I picked up.
Jenny, yes this is not Hana’s website neither is Doug, NS, Tyler, CM….who have in the past told people what to say and what not to. I do agree with Hana instead of posting long comments that are OFF TOPICS you can just post links. The rules are there for us to follow and if the webmistress is not replying to people’s email then we can let her and everyone know by leaving our comments here.
PuckHappy, once again, I’m baffled with the things you come up with. Now, Tom Cruise Can’t even promote his movies on MTV and BET? If the likes of Harrison Ford can appear on TRL to promote his moive, why can’t Tom? What is wrong with appearing on those programs? Cruise always promotes his movies very well….maybe that is why he’s successful.
Tia
May 29, 2008 at 2:58 am
“GIRLS!……..LETS ALL AGREE ,TO DISAGREE. @ just leave it at that.”
I TOTALLY AGREE!
Lilianne
May 29, 2008 at 4:22 am
Hana..I feel I must respond to your comment. I call things like I see them most of the time and try to be straightforward with my comments here. I did read all of Anon’s comments and only chose one to speak about because it is the only one that was on my radar. I like for things to be factual, as much as possible, and you were saying that noone had ever made the comment about them wanting a boy when they already had one. I knew that was wrong because I remember hearing it during that interview and all anyone has to do is go find it on youtube. I didn’t say anything about the bio vs. adopted’s because I felt like Tom made it clear how he felt about the 2 during his Oprah interview. HE himself didn’t use the words bio or adopted but I felt like he did make a distinction between the 2. It was one of only 2 things I didnt like about the whole interview. I felt like when he talked about Suri he made it seem like he loved her more and thought more of her than the other 2. Even though he was responding to questions asked of him about Suri I felt like he could have done more to bring his older children into the conversation and make it clear that he had THREE kids who meant a lot to him. I don’t feel like he did that. So that is why I didnt say anything about that here. I don’t really try to be unbiased I just try and call things like I see them. Having said that, I found it interesting to read Lauren’s choice of words to Hana….something like “coming to the rescue.” Just curious why anyone would feel like they need to be anyone’s savior here?
Lauren
May 29, 2008 at 4:57 am
Lilianne, I was jokinglyu responding to Hana’s post earlier where she said
‘where is Lauren and Tia when you need them’
I guess being a lover of conspiracies, you cannot help but think there is a big conspiracy to have Cruise’s fans comment here. Sorry to disappoint, I found Hana here and any other fans.
Lauren
May 29, 2008 at 5:01 am
I do strongly disagree with you about Tom and his kids. From when Suri was born, every one was waiting for Tom to treat her differently from his other kids. I guess even if he totallyignored her and we saw him with only Bella and Connor in Gr, critics would say he is exposing them to the public and hiding his golden child. To these people there is no winning. Tom has made it clear in so many interviews that he loves his children equally and does not make a distinction. People will always say what they want to say, not matter all evidence to the contrary.
Lauren
May 29, 2008 at 5:11 am
Puck and Bumble,
I am sure no one asked Nicole about her miscarriages since no one knew about them. Lets face it, this is showbiz and if you want to remain relevant, you have to be newsworthy. Such stories of miscarriages early in her marriages are what captures attention. I will not judge her on that because that is the trade she is in.
Anon, it is Nicole who is calling up tabloids and telling them her woes. It is also non fans who brought up the issue of TC wanting another child badly. We ‘rabid’ fans only responded that Nicole has been deperate for a child like she has none. Which is true. Just google her names and see stories that come up. I would never have brought it up otherwise.
Notice that we have all expressed our hope that this article is false. Personally I don’t see her doing it. If she did and we will find out in due course, I lose respect for her.
She has resources, let her go to court and ask for more rights or enforcement of the custody agreement. Better still call up TC and solve this behind closed doors. Calling up tabloids is beyond cheap.
Lilianne
May 29, 2008 at 5:30 am
Lauren, Please do not make assumptions about me and my motives behind what I say and do here. I find it interesting that you took my question and made the leap from my simple curiosity to a conspiracy theory and then made a blanket statement about me (someone you know NOTHING about) being a “lover of conspiracies”. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else? I was merely curious about your choice of words and asked a simple question which you cleared up for me. I had not seen a post about “where are Lauren and Tia when you need them.” So now your words make sense. I don’t see why you need to turn something simple into something complicated?
As for you disagreeing with me about Tom regarding his children…..that is fine. I am not like some here who require others to fall into line with their way of thinking or else they will pick on them. We do not agree that he did not and does not distinguish between his kids. I felt like he did in that Oprah interview and it bothered me for his older kids. I felt like he did them a disservice as their parent and I would have been hurt if I had been in their shoes. He made it seem like Suri is his whole reason for living and that since having her his life is markedly better. Maybe I read too much into it but that is how I felt regarding his words.
Hana
May 29, 2008 at 5:40 am
Lilianne: Thank you for your comment. I do think you say things as you see it and are unbiased but I think you misread my reply. I didn’t say “noone” had ever made the comment about them wanting a boy. I was referring to Tom and not Katie and I did make that clear on my second comment. Also I’ve been looking for that interview with KH and I’m yet to find it.
TC doesn’t talk about his older children in any other way than he does about Suri. If he talks about her a lot more than the older children, that is because the interviewers are more interested in her than they are in the older children and they always menstion the fact that the older children are “adopted”…..and has nothing to do with how TC feels. I remember once, I think it was on Jay Leon show, JL kept referring to Suri as if she was his only daughter and TC made it clear he already has another daughter.
Again, I’m sorry but I really didn’t distinguish any differnce with the way he talked about his older children to Oprah….here are some quotes from the show and other quotes when TC talked about his children. (apology in advance for my long post)
“When he’s being scrutinized by the media, Tom says he hopes it doesn’t affect Bella and Connor, who are now old enough to understand what’s going on in the press. “They love me, so they know. They’ve grown up with that, and I’m sure there are things that they don’t like, and you go, ‘Okay, that happened, things go wrong, but don’t live in it. Don’t live in that because today is a new day and there’s plenty of tomorrows,’” he says. “They’re good people, my children. I’m proud of them.”
“I don’t want them to worry,” he says. “They know I’m there. No matter what, I’m always there.”
“Tom says his children from his previous marriage to actress Nicole Kidman, Bella and Connor, were ready to welcome their new sister. “They were really excited,”
“In 2001, Tom and Nicole went through a highly publicized divorce. Now, Tom says they have a good relationship and the rumors that Nicole has been pushed out of Bella’s and Connor’s lives are untrue. “No, that’s ridiculous,” he says.”
Tom says the children have maintained relationships with Nicole and still see her. “We share custody,” he says. “That’s what it is.”
“When someone compares your daughter to Rosemary’s Baby? It’s one thing to say things about me but when it’s about my children or my family — that is off the charts.”
(He didn’t say my CHILD here, he said MY CHILDREN.)
R