Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes

64 opinions for Katie Holmes In Style Magazine Cover

• JesseJane1181
  Dec 12, 2007 at 10:45 pm

  WOW!!!! I’m impressed, she looks absolutly gorgous in this picture!! (sorry i can’t spell) Here hair and make-up look fabulous! This is the ond Katie I remember! (Just with shorter hair!) I’m not a fan of this TomKat thing, but I’m really impressed. She should bring this out! Not that god aweful new look she has. She looks like somehing that fell off the ugly tree, and hit every branch on the way down! God what was she thinking with that new do?!?

• jajorge
  Dec 13, 2007 at 1:18 am

  gotta agree. she does look good, very refreshed, and as though she lost some years. the hairstyle is much more flattering too. of course, lighting and editing played their parts too, in producing such a great picture. the photographers did a great great great job!

• lolotte
  Dec 13, 2007 at 1:35 am

  katie is so beautiful and stylish, I have a french site on katie holmes

  http://fabulous.fr.nf/

  I espére that you are fast going to put scans,Or if you can send them to me by e-mail

• lolotte
  Dec 13, 2007 at 1:37 am

  my adress mail :

  Lolotte_85@hotmail.fr

  thanks

• In Case You Didn’t Know » Katie Holmes in InStyle Magazine!
  Dec 13, 2007 at 9:26 am

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• Balletmama
  Dec 13, 2007 at 10:38 am

  She does look great. At least Tom’s money is buying something for her.

  I still think she is having some plastic surgery or something on the side. Most normal thirty year olds do have lines, etc. Sorry, I hate how phony and vain Hollyweird is and all that comes out of it!!!!! This is not what I want my daughters to emulate.

  I still think it is such a waste what she has done with her new fame and money: shopping, exploiting her kid, shopping, focusing on her looks, shopping, exploiting her kid some more, shopping, ignoring the adopted kids, shopping, etc.

  I am curious to see what lengths the plastic girl will go to in order to maintain her looks in ten years and without Cruise’s money because she will be ex-wife #3. What will she do when the gray starts to come in in ten years? I guess we will see her running for hair dye not only for herself, but for her ex-husband as well.

  I hope Suri doesn’t get caught up in this vanity!! Unfortunately, for Suri, she has a vain airhead for a mother who thinks fashion is more important than common sense.

• Libraesque2007
  Dec 13, 2007 at 11:16 am

  I’ve always thought kh was a pretty girl, but those pictures from the other day (red skinny jeans) with no make up on were the real katie. this is re-touching and photoshop at it’s best. Great picture though. Those pants….uuuuhhh they look painful…a size larger would have been more flattering. I think the watch and the bangles are a miss too, IMO

• smartgurl23
  Dec 13, 2007 at 11:21 am

  Nice Cover

• taralexis
  Dec 13, 2007 at 11:26 am

  she looks great!
  I have to disagree with the comment that most 30 year olds have lines! That is just not true! I just turned 30, and I ALWAYS get carded when I go out, and people always are in shock because I really do NOT look my age! Some people are just blessed with young, healthy skin!
  She is aging beautifully! I don’t think she will have to worry about plastic surgery for a long time to come!

• Balletmama
  Dec 13, 2007 at 11:55 am

  If you look at pics of her before the Oscars’ Party last year, you can see the beginning of Crow’s feet (I think that is what those lines are called around the eyes.). In the pics afterwards, she doesn’t have them. Both Cruise and Holmes even admitted to some kind of skin tightening procedure before the Oscars. (I guess she is worrying about lines already!!!) There are also pics that show she has had a nose job and her teeth straightened, etc. since that time.

  No, I don’t think lines are a big issue now, but they will be because all people age. Also, you can put off the effects of aging by using creams, etc., which most normal people don’t do because of the cost and time involved. Also, I am sure Photoshop helps as well!

  The money also helps because she has beauty consultants and hair dressers to go to every day if she wishes and she doesn’t have the stress the average person does who is not blessed with TC’s credit cards and the nannies, cooks, assistants, etc. I am sure she takes full advantage of all of that every hour she is awake. (Yes, I would love to have someone dress me and do my make-up when I go out as well as have the help around the house. I would hope I would do more with my time and money than shop and exploit my kid the way she has!)

  I am thirty as well and people don’t believe I am as old as I am, but I know I could not pass for sixteen again, especially not with three kids. And yes, I do have the lines. It is called life and age and I am not ashamed of it because it has been a good one!!

• Libraesque2007
  Dec 13, 2007 at 1:02 pm

  you guys don’t EVEN wanna know how old I am and I get carded at Trader Joes buying wine. I even got carded at Walgreens buying cigarettes on several occassions.
  HW has insanely unrealistic standards…but bottom line…you either cave to that or you don’t. Susan Sarandon never did…but she is an outstanding actress…..I guess if you’re 30 and you feel the need for botox and nose jobs and collegen in your lips you’re relying strickly on your looks….know what I mean???

• jajorge
  Dec 13, 2007 at 1:18 pm

  like i said, she looks great. but think, people: do girls on these magazine covers ever ever ever look bad? even sarah jessica parker looks good on covers. and goldie hawn. jane fonda. oprah. britney. sabrina the witch girl. a lot of work and a lot of hours go into making a photo like that.

• toledo fan
  Dec 13, 2007 at 1:21 pm

  agree Libra- pants too tight! and either the watch OR the bangles- both are a little much on the same wrist.
  great link by lolotte- the whole IN STYLE article on the ‘french’ site. now don’t have to buy the mag! wonder how many ‘amazings’ they had to edit? (she was probably ordered what NOT to say)

• smartgurl23
  Dec 13, 2007 at 2:11 pm

  the article was great

• jajorge
  Dec 13, 2007 at 4:38 pm

  yeah. better than stepford even!

• Dancer
  Dec 13, 2007 at 5:20 pm

  She looks great.. I wanna see a close up of that 5 carat rock!

• candice
  Dec 13, 2007 at 8:40 pm

  Battlemamma, I had to laugh when i read your comment on how you hate the phony vain hollywood. If you hate it so much why do donate so much of your time to looking at it on the internet. But the funniest part was definately “this is not what i want my daughters to emulate” What exactly is it that you do want your daughters to emulate?? Their mother?? Who logs onto the internet in her free time to gossip and make nasty comments about those you dont like?? What do you think your teaching your daughters??? That its ok to critisize people that you dont know because you dont like them or their lifestlye?? Do you think they are going to pick up on your negative attitudes towards others and copy it? give me a break hypocrite. You are in no position to comment on anyones “bad parenting”. Also, so katie shops, big deal. If i went to different countries i would shop to. I mean lets face it we are women and women love to shop. Im sure you go out shopping the only difference is your not photographed everytime your out and about so no one is counting. And just for the record how many family photos are there of the kidman/urban family with the “adopted ones”?

• candice
  Dec 13, 2007 at 9:46 pm

  Just to prove a point i googled gwen stefani and her son kingston and couldnt believe how many pictures there were of her showing kingston to the paps. She is smiling in 90 percent of them and even waves as she shows off her son. For god sakes cant you all just realize that these people are proud of their kids??? Why are you so against this couple?? Please shed some light as i dont get it?? I dont really like tomkat myself (though i do like to look at pics of suri as she reminds me of my daughter) but i dont think the way you all carry on is fair.

• Balletmama
  Dec 14, 2007 at 11:50 am

  Actually, I don’t enjoy shopping that much.

  I like the pics of Suri too, but I hate how she is used by her parents for PR purposes!! And they do use her.

  Connor and Isabella are homeschooled, so they are not locked to a desk in Beverly Hills. They could benefit from travelling and getting a bigger picture of the world. Much more than Suri will at this point.

  I don’t devote a lot of time to this. Just when I need a mindless break. It is amusing to see how silly these two idiots are. It makes me appreciate what I have more–a real relationship and need to not have to prove something to others!!

  As far as comments, these two want people to comment about them. That is how they make there living, isn’t it. They just cry in public, and yes KH has, when it is not positive. They want to be in the public eye and they have invited the cameras when they see them. They need to learn to take the good and the bad. And yes, the press does overboard some times, but KH/TC mostly bring this on themselves.

  I will give you one thing Candice, I have gone a little overboard in my commenting and criticisms , but so have you!! I have not said half the nasty things that others on this site have said and I don’t appreciate being singled out because you have nothing to do then criticize others who you don’t agree with and you don’t think you can take the others on.

  I also don’t criticize parenting because the only perfect parent is one who has no kids!!!

  It also appears you devote more time to Hollyweird and celebs than I do because I couldn’t tell you who Gwen Stefani was the mother of or who Violet’s parents are. Nor do I really care!!

  By the way, I won’t be back to this or any other site!!

• toledo fan
  Dec 14, 2007 at 12:19 pm

  AMEN Balletmama. and…I don’t think you have gone overboard in your commenting and criticisms. Yes, it IS fun to take a break and have a laugh at this baffoon and his delusional child bride. Take care and come back and check on the circus once in a while :)

• Libraesque2007
  Dec 14, 2007 at 12:51 pm

  MAMA!!! Don’t leave, I like your views here!!! I like hearing your viewpoints from a mothers perspective!!!
  I think it’s disgusting how this candice THING would think that your views on how you perceive these two media w h o r e s p i m p i n g their baby out would in any way affect your relationship with your kids, it’s EXACTLY opposite and any idiot can see that.
  IT obviously has no clue about anything, because everyone knows NK’S views on having her children photographed. She is not a woman who needs or wants her children involved in her career or anything having to do with the media circus that comes along with that career and goes to great lengths to achieve privacy.

  I also find it FOUL and offensive that IT would come here and question you about your family. THIS IS A GOSSIP SITE…….STAY ON TOPIC OR LEAVE

• Balletmama
  Dec 14, 2007 at 1:00 pm

  Libra: There are some other reasons involved as well–like my wonderful life to I do say I have. Mostly, I am sick of the personal attacks and I am not asking for them. I am fine with people disagreeing, but tired of being called a “b**ch” for having a differing opinoin.

  I will probably be back to comment once in awhile. (I couldn’t stay away, could I?) Any way, you may want to read the article on foxnews about TC’s real reasons for following Smith to his premieres, etc. Apparently Cruise has done this in the past “stalking” in the past to get recruits!! It is a Scientology approved method.

  I hope he doesn’t get Smith’s money, because Smith does actually do something good for all.

• jajorge
  Dec 14, 2007 at 1:08 pm

  yeah balletmama! this is an OPINION post, and i agree that candice invidiously went too far in her personal attacks and singling you out. she has her opinion, but do we attack her????????? it’s not worth it. come back. i for one really appreciated some of your comments. they were much more stimulating than “suri and katie look great” or “nice friends” all of the time.

• jajorge
  Dec 14, 2007 at 1:17 pm

  if it doesn’t matter, why get so upset? who’s the hypocrite? really, does every woman love to shop?? does she represent every woman?? and yeah, sure, spend shop consume on clothes. how many clothes does one need? as far as i know, suri is the youngest client to have her feet moulded by christian louboutin. bill gates loves his daughter too, i’m sure, and so do the royal families. how come they don’t get their less-than-2-year-olds’ feet moulded? is candice saying that if you have the money, it’s okay to just spend spend spend on attire? for every criticism i have for the cruises, i find reasons to compliment other celebrities. i say good things about the way the jolie-pitts seem to be living. it’s my OPINION, and it’s okay if you disagree, but please leave out the personal attacks candice. my opinions are based on the pictures on this site and on my set of values.

• Lilianne
  Dec 14, 2007 at 1:29 pm

  Why is it so bad when someone else has a different opinion from what we ourselves have? While I don’t think Candice is correct in singling out Mama and criticizing her alone when there are SO many people who do and say so much worse than what she does, I don’t think it is appropriate for her to be called an “it” because of it. Just because someone’s opinion does not match yours does not mean you deserve to be degraded and that goes for ANY person who posts here.

• Lilianne
  Dec 14, 2007 at 1:33 pm

  I forgot to add that I think Katie looks great here. I love the outfit and I just think she looks so fresh and pretty. I wish that she didn’t look like she has come so far away from her girl next door look though.

• Libraesque2007
  Dec 14, 2007 at 2:39 pm

  lili, you don’t think it’s appropriate, fine. I’m not going to sit by and not STRONGLY defend someone who is being un-necessary singled out and attacked on a personal level which IS NOT what this site is about. If someone pushes I’m going to push back, bottom line.
  Thats where I stand, but I think everyone probably already gets that

• Lilianne
  Dec 14, 2007 at 2:50 pm

  I can and only will say that I feel it is complete and total bunk to defend someone against a personal attack by attacking someone personally. The whole thing is contrary and counterproductive to do the same EXACT thing you are upset at someone else for. And if you will note, I also defended Mama by saying it wasnt cool for that candice person to single her out and her only.

• Libraesque2007
  Dec 14, 2007 at 3:03 pm

  thats why I said if someone pushes I push back. Everyone needs to play nice and stay on topic AND if you don’t, the gloves are off. Also, I hardly attacked this thing.
  These are responses to my comment that kh IS NOT a good role model, on another site

  libraesque
  i pray for you death

  Get a life libraesque………

  pity trolls that are sooooo
  jealous.

  WOW so gorgeous! Jealous jealous jealous!

  this site is like a day at the beach

• candice
  Dec 14, 2007 at 5:40 pm

  Firstly i have to say i knew all of your responses would be good but damn you really did impress me with some of your comments. You have all just comfirmed to me how you read comments with your blinkers on and only respond to those things that you can defend. Secondly i did not only attack battlemamma. i have been having a good debate with toledo fan about nappy bags under a different post and my first original post was actually an attack on you all. SO i would suggest that you get all the facts. And how can you all attack me for critisizing ( please do your best ) when you all openly attack tomkat daily. All i have done is point out what you are doing so is it that you dont like to hear the truth?? Jajorge please dont put words in my mouth. All im saying is if you went to another country would you go shoping?? Wether it be for souvineres (wrong spelling i know) or to look at what other cultures sell?? Do you not go shopping when you need clothes or other personal items. Do you really know that suri has a shoe design by christian la-whoever?? JUST BECAUSE THE TABLOIDS SAY SO DOES THAT MAKE IT ALL TRUE. And libra, You know nicole personally do you?? And you have talked to the “adopted ones” and they said that they wanted to go overseas but they werent allowed. Come on this is my whole point. You ALL just talk about things that probably arn’t true. SO why waste your time. Get an opinion on facts instead of speculating of gossip. And battlemamma im not worried if you dont read this but for the record i do get on the internet after my kids go to bed while i wait to pick my husband up from work. (to much info but just making my point) There is nothing wrong with surfing the net in your free time. But why get on here just to be cruel and nasty. AND re-read some of your other posts. You have said that “the only good parent is one who doesnt have kids” before BUT you have also critisized many times on tomkat parenting. So yes i do think your a hypocrite. And i dont think pointing out the truth is a personal attack. Im not worried if you dont visit this site again in fact i say GOOD!!!!!! Its one more narrowminded opinion i dont have to read. And please comment about me or to me all you like. Im not worried and im not going anywhere!!!!

• candice
  Dec 14, 2007 at 5:42 pm

  And libra i would never pray for anyones death or even call you a troll but surely you have to see that you can be quite cruel and narrowminded in you opinions and veiws. Im open to be proved wrong and will happily admit when i have been incorrect about something but i believe that this is something you and many other readers just cant do.

• jajorge
  Dec 14, 2007 at 10:06 pm

  my opinions were based on my interpretations of the pictures on this site, including some of the links. are we all alloowed to do that? (i know, spelling mistake). as for the shoes, the fashion house released a statement that they were proud to add suri cruise, the youngest member ever, to their clientele list. maybe you should challenge this statement. and may i ask you, what the heck you consider to be a fact. because i’d really like to know, maybe i’m just stupid. and if you only want facts, don’t come to this site. like i said, i’m basing my oopinions on my interpretations of the pictures. too bad if you have a problem with it!

• jajorge
  Dec 14, 2007 at 10:15 pm

  hmmmmmm….. maybe the new andrew morton book that’ll be coming out will be more “factual”. guess i’ll have to ask candice though, since she seems to decide what is and isn’t.

• jajorge
  Dec 14, 2007 at 11:03 pm

  excuse me, i’d like to correct the above. it was reported to ok! magazine by a source close to kh that c louboutin had suri’s feet moulded. i believe there is a posting on this site about it too. i understand (i think) your problems with opinions based on speculation and tabloid fodder, but then why visit sites like these that post speculative tabloid news like that? why even bother reading the comments to such postings? even if it’s only THIS site, still….

• jajorge
  Dec 14, 2007 at 11:34 pm

  are photographs factual? how do you know? how do you even know that suri actually exists? have you seen her personally, and even if you did, how would you know tom and katie were her parents unless you tested her DNA? if we were banned from posting opinions based on speculation or tabloid information, i’m sure many of these posts would have to go. you’re absolutely right that katie and suri COULD be buying souvenirs, but as far as i saw from the pictures, it was very very very nearly all shopping at stores and boutiques that sell clothes. elie wiesel once said: it’s not so important that we agree with one other, but that we understand one another. i think i understand where you’re coming from, and can respect that. but surely you can understand that people are going to formulate opinions based on the pics and articles posted on this very site.

• candice
  Dec 15, 2007 at 12:02 am

  Give me a break. Comments like “does suri exist” and “are tom and katie her parents” are the sort of thing that prompted me to start posting on here in the first place. Actually it was also comments like “tom & katie are going to have her features surgically altered” and “3 imbeciles going shopping.” I used to come to this website to look at pics of suri as she reminds me of my own daughter (well i didnt really notice a resemblence until people started pointing it out) but thats not really important, and i would occasionally read some of the comments but would just shake my head and laugh. I guess a couple of months of this finally got the better of me and i couldnt help myself. Opinions, jajorge i can understand, but outright nastiness especially to a two year old is beyond the joke. Maybe i havnt gone the right way about expressing what im really trying to say here but i stand by everything that i have said. And about the FACTS comment i know that alot of it is “tabloid fodder” and im pleasantly suprised that you wrote this because without knowing it your really backing up what im saying. You know it could all be false so why pick at it like a bunch of vultures. Just imagine this was your family. You know what happens in your life but imagine having lies printed around the countryside and people believing it and to make it worse hating you for it. Im sorry as much as i would like to understand what you all get out of nasty gossip and cruel comments i just dont. Harmless gossip i have no problems with but delibratley picking some one apart without knowing whats real or money making fantasy is something i just cant fathom. I left those days behind when i graduated from high school. And im willing to concede on the shoe thing. I may be totally wrong. but really so what?? I may be shallow to you all for saying this but if some famous designer wanted to do shoes for my kid i think i would be honored. After all how do you know that he didnt approach the cruises. What better advertisment than to have your shoes on such a gorgeous kid. And the reason i come to sites like this is because i refuse to buy the celeb magazines which really do print nothing but crap but i am a sucker for looking at photos and after reading a couple of comments i guess i couldnt help but read more. My husband has told me im as bad as all of you for even bother to write on here but im not one to sit quiet and not debate or argue (which ever you prefer) about things i dont agree with. So i encourage you all to pick apart the things i have said and im open to being proved wrong BUT have the same courtesy and admit when you are wrong yourselves. And you all know that some of the things i have written here are dead true!! (even if you cant admit it outloud)

• candice
  Dec 15, 2007 at 12:12 am

  I would also like to say to battlemamma (even though you probably wont read this) that i feel a bit guilty for saying that im glad you wont be back to this site. Thats actually not what i intended. I wont apologize for what i said about what your negative attitude towards others could be teaching your children as i strongly believe our kids “emulate” us. But i would of thought (and especially after reading your previous comments) you would of had more of a back bone to see my point rather than to run and hide. If your sick of being called names why did you ever put yourself in that position in the first place. Do you not see that the sort of things you have said about tomkat are no different than the things i said about you. Stand up for yourself woman but also be willing to see when your not doing the right thing.

• Balletmama
  Dec 15, 2007 at 12:48 am

  If you are going to personally attack someone, at least read all of their comment. Isn’t that what you are accusing me of as well as others…not reading everything and being selective. Here is the important part you missed:

  “I don’t devote a lot of time to this. Just when I need a mindless break. It is amusing to see how silly these two idiots are. It makes me appreciate what I have more–a real relationship and a need to not have to prove something to others!!

  As far as comments, these two want people to comment about them. That is how they make there living, isn’t it. They just cry in public, and yes KH has, when it is not positive. They want to be in the public eye and they have invited the cameras when they see them. They need to learn to take the good and the bad. And yes, the press does overboard some times, but KH/TC mostly bring this on themselves. I am not going to pat someone on the back when they are behaving badly.

  I will give you one thing Candice, I have gone a little overboard in my commenting and criticisms , but so have you!!”

  Please reread the last statement. I was WOMAN ENOUGH to admit my mistakes and have cogitated over them. I have been mulling over the other comments too. That is the big reason I want to leave this…it tends to bring out qualities I don’t want to encourage in me–not your attacks. BEsides, my time is precious and this mindless pursuit is not worth the energy that I have been devoting to it. (Before you get too smug, I have been mulling on this one for several weeks now.)

  Maybe you should look at your own behavior in this situation as well because I doubt it is bringing out qualities you would want to encourage. Would you want your daughter EMULATING your behavior? From my experience, if you are discussing this with your husband, your daughter is probably listening in. Kids are a lot smarter/perceptive than adults give them credit for sometimes.

  Also, when you mentioned you had a little one and your husband worked late, I realized that we actually had something in common…well at least that was me eight years ago!! We could in another setting and place have something worthwhile to talk about. Yet another reason why I am leaving. I could be losing someone, who in another situation, could have been a friend.

  Please leave me out of this from now on!! You made your point and it is not worth the energy.

  As far as airhead and her husband go, they could careless what peons like us have to say, unless we are worshipping the ground they walk on and throwing our money their way. KH has plenty of people to prop up her ego. As I said in the previous message, she also expects us to comment about her life…something along the lines of how lucky she is living her immoral life and that it is okay to sell herself and her baby for fame and money.
  GIVE ME A BREAK ON THAT ONE!!! I can’t lie like that and I have been vocal about that. I guess we have different values in this area.

• jajorge
  Dec 15, 2007 at 12:49 am

  thanks, candice. actually, i knew i was supporting you when i wrote “tabloid fodder” which shows that i understand to a certain extent where you are coming from. but i also wrote that to imply how trivial my opinions actually are: how serious can comments be that are based on “tabloid fodder”? i don’t really take them that seriously, and i honestly did not think you would. IMO people who lead public lives as public figures risk criticisms against their personal lives when they assume their public roles. if that’s so, your comparison of me or balletmama to people like the cruises is not so apposite. i can’t say that i won’t comment hereon, but i will try to go softer on the parenting criticisms. i know that the majority of my comments have been negative, but i have expressed positive as well. for instance, when katie ran the marathon (or supposedly). thanks, (though you could have made your point a lot less vehemently).

• taurusgirl
  Dec 15, 2007 at 2:50 am

  I don’t think it matters whether or not someone’s comments are majority negative or positive. This is a blogsite for cying out loud! Balletmama does not know Tom and Katie and has never claimed to. What she objects to is the image that they project and cultivate with their actions. I cannot think of another celeb couple that has had so much scrutiny and disbelief surrounding their relationship as these two. Everyone smells a rat, and we have just as much right to discuss, no matter how vehemently, how much we hold the actions of these people in disdain, as those of you who support them and like the image they project have to praise them. Balletmama is not personally attacking anyone. If she were, she would be writing letters to the Cruises expressing her opinions. That is a personal attack. What she states here is her OPINION that will not effect Tom and Katie or Suri in any way! Why should it matter what anyone says on a blogsite? The celebs aren’t hurt by it in any way. Why should it matter to anyone else on this site what anyone’s opinion is? We all go about our lives no matter what anyone thinks of Tom and Katie, good or bad. It is completely inappropriate to attack someone on a blogsite for expressing their opinions about any celeb. Is that not what blogsites are for?!

• candice
  Dec 15, 2007 at 4:14 am

  battlemamma, I know you said you dont wish to discuss it anymore and if you dont read this thats fine but unfortunatley i feel i just have to reply to a couple of things. And im sure if you dont read it someone else will and reply on your behalf. I know you said you dont devote alot of time to this and i have already said that i dont think there is anything wrong with surfing the net but at the risk of sounding like a broken record its all the negativity directed to places/people that i dont think is deserved. I have said that i dont really like tomkat but it was mainly the things directed towards suri that got up my nose. And of course there were other comments i didnt agree with but we dont need to revisit that i have my opinion and you have yours. And believe me smugness was the last thing i was feeling. Maybe you have been questioning things the last couple of weeks i dont know but i will say that im glad for it. I dont know why, but i am. And your right i do want my daughter to emulate me and while i wouldnt want her to be as harsh in some respects as i was, i would want her to stand up people that she thinks are being wronged. And just quickly she is only 18months old. Very smart and perceptive but still only a bub. Also my husband actually doesnt want to hear about any of this. He did ask me what i was doing and when i told him he shook his head and said i was just as bad. I listened but went ahead and did what i wanted anyway :) While im happy to accept our difference of opinions i just think they can be made with out the extra critisisms thrown in. But then in pointing it out to you i have made myself guilty of that aswell. And jajorge your right i could of made my point alot nicer but honestly i dont think anyone would of listened if i did. And while i dont expect you to agree with what i say i just would like it to be read and thought about. and thankyou to you to.

• candice
  Dec 15, 2007 at 4:34 am

  Taurusgirl, This maybe a bogsite and supposedly a fansite but if you ask me it was becoming a lets see who can come up with the biggest conspiracy theory and have the nastiest comments. go ahead and discuss it as vehemently as you want but i will reply just as vehemently if i disagree which in your own words is what this sight is for correct????? (although i will make sure i do it without personal attacks)

• candice
  Dec 15, 2007 at 6:15 am

  oops i meant blogsite not bog :)

• taurusgirl
  Dec 15, 2007 at 12:09 pm

  Cool! That’s fine, Candice. Then let’s discuss our opinions like adults with intelligent arguments and opinions without personal attacks. I am all for that. I guess what I have never understood is when people get so bent out of shape over someone else’s opinion about anything that doesn’t effect either parties’ lives. I’m not singling you and Balletmama out to be mean, just using your discussion for illustration purposes. For example, why do you care what Balletmama’s opinion of Tom, Katie or Suri is? No matter how harsh it may be… Does it so adversely affect your life that you have to get yourself all in a tizzy about it? As long as she is not insulting you or personal friends or family of yours, what does it matter what she thinks about a couple of celebrities?! I don’t hink she or even you or any of us are obsessed or internet stalkers or anything like that. I think we all see something in TC and KH that either inspires or offends us so we comment, just as anyone would on anything that draws their attention for whatever reason. I know I only come here in my downtime. I have a very busy, fulfilling life. I am a nurse and happily married for the second time mother of one and I would NEVER take time away from my family or work to spend time commenting on celebs. As I doubt Balletmama or Libra would. I don’t personally know either of them, but I have read their comments for some time and I doubt either of them are stalking or disrupting their own lives in any way by commenting here. Like I’m sure they do, I come here when I’ve got nothing else to do–when my son is sleeping, or playing at a friend’s or at his Dad’s house, or when I am not busy at work, or I am awake at 3 AM. You know, times like that, not times away from the important things in my life. Tom and Katie are a point of interest to me just as fixing up cars or collecting rocks or whatever may be to someone else. It’s just something that I have an opinion about and I like to discuss it with others who share the same interest. I don’t ever mean it as a personal attack on anyone, not even Tom and Katie themselves, as I don’t know them. What I attack is the image they project to the world. I find it offensive. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but they bug me! I’m not jealous of them or anything like that. I don’t know what it is, they just get under my skin. But if you like them, then great! Tell us why like them and we’ll tell you why we don’t and it could be a h e l l u v a fun debate! See you all soon! :)

• candice
  Dec 15, 2007 at 5:22 pm

  Actually taurusgirl i dont like tomkat. But i do love little suri. (again resemblence to my own baby) I just couldnt get my head around some of the comments directed toward that little girl. I dont really have an opinion on tom and katie, i have never been real interested in either of them. Which is why i have never said anything about the comments made on how they look, the movies they make, the marathon she ran in etc etc. But the parenting thing and the things like xmas it just seemed to be going a bit to far. As a parent of two myself with a third on the way (and im 28 so roughly the same age a katie) i know how rough it can be when people are constantly telling you whats right and whats wrong. I guess in that respect im kinda sticking up for myself an other mums too. ( i have an “involved” mother in-law ) I think that we all do our best as parents and may do things that others wouldnt etc ( i was critisized for still breast feeding at 16 months) and i honestly believe some of the things said about katie were just a bit ridiculous. I also threw in a few alternative views about xmas as it seems you guys only follow the opinion of the tabloids. (which are rarely right). However im still open to the debates as i do love a good argument and i will try not to get on my high horse again (which i have been kicked off many times) :)

• candice
  Dec 15, 2007 at 5:24 pm

  And just for the record i dont think that anybody is a internet stalker as we all need to amuse ourselves in some form or another.

• taurusgirl
  Dec 15, 2007 at 8:18 pm

  Good to know all of the above about you. Thanks for responding. Congrats on the baby on the way! :) Thing is, I really don’t believe all the tabloid hype. However, I do think there is something just not right about this couple. I can’t nail it on the head, but something is askew. I’m not necessarily a conspiracy theorist. I’m not sure I believe KH went into it TOTALLY for personal gain. YES, I think that was part of it, but I really think she was swept off her feet by the whole thing, the idea of being with TOM CRUISE. Everyone has to remember he was still a huge popular star when they got together, not the bumbling idiot he has become. I think she got completely caught up and just said yes to everything she was offered, including $cientology. Some paint her as a conniving famew h o r e, and maybe she has now become that, after having a taste of “the good life” but I’m not so sure she knew exactly what she was getting in to.
  As far as Suri’s paternity goes, I go back and forth on that one. Sometimes I think she looks just like Tom, like in the VF photos. Now I think she looks just like Katie. I try to give Katie the benefit of the doubt and believe that there is no way she could make up her whole life including her daughter. Fame and money can’t be that precious. Somehow, some way that is really Tom’s kid. Then I hear the conspiracy theories and I do lend ear, because sometimes they make sense. Suri does look older than she supposedly is. People say she was born in Dec 05, maybe Jan 06 and cite the original photos of her preggers in the loose shiny purple top and say no way she was in her first trimester. I do see that point. But also, those pics were taken in Oct 05. Though she does look further along than 1st trimester, she does not look 7 months along either, which is what she would have to be if Suri were born in Dec 05. So basically, I don’t know. None of us ever will because we don’t know them. For whatever reason, it drives me CRAZY!!!!! Not knowing the truth about something that intrigues me just gets under my skin. We will probably NEVER know the real deal between these two, but I think it is safe to say we all have to agree, SOMETHING is just not right!

• Balletmama
  Dec 15, 2007 at 9:06 pm

  The only thing I can say, Candice, is that you owe me an apology because I have gone after Libra and others for the comments about Suri and I have really not commented on their parenting except about the way they show Suri off. Using a kid that way is inexcusable. Your attack on me was uncalled for if what you have said recently is true.

  I like Battlemama, by the way…LOL!!!

  By the way, it gets more difficult with three. That is how many I have. The problem is that the kids now out number mom and dad and if there is a divide and conquer in your home, plan on having two with you and your hubbie one; invariably, you will have the crying one :)!!!

  I saw the article…In terms of an interview, there is not much. KH seems wrapped up in the life of glamor and glitz–lunch with other actors, etc. She said something about not turning her back on any of her friends. From what I have heard, she has done that with pre-TC friends.
  Some of the outfits were cute, but completely impractical for my life. Most of high fashion is way too impractical for the average person.

  In terms of the Christmas thing, TC has come out and said that he and KH are strcitly Scientologist as well as all the kids, it is not coupled with another religion. So, it is hypocritical to celebrate Christmas on their parts when it is a major holiday for another religion.

• toledo fan
  Dec 16, 2007 at 1:09 am

  whew- take a breath everyone- this is just a blog venue where we can type whatever the h e l l we want and vent about how we feel about this strange couple. [TC is psycho and KH is a pollyanna.]
  It’s a diversion to watch the antics of this pair and comment about same. If you knew more about the backgrounds of these two you’d probably say they were perfect for each other! And isn’t it fun to point out their strange self indulgent lifestyle when there is so much serious stuff going on in the world?- Make the world go away…look at Tom and Katie…HAHAHAHA
  Well…here she us shopping again- probably had to get away from TC’s live-in family! But notice she still is accompanied by her handler- who we’ve seen numerous times before in photo ops- even when she was in Paris last year with Posh for fashion week!
  justjared.buzznet.com/2007/12/16/katie-holmes-christmas-shopping/

• jajorge
  Dec 16, 2007 at 3:48 am

  things have taken a rather serious turn on this site these past few days. actually, i’m glad cuz it really got me to reflect on things. i don’t pretend to be above anyone here, and i AM really that pathetic that i keep visiting this site to read up on what else is new with the freaks, even though the information given here and elsewhere on this freak couple are probably lies, as candice mentioned. i don’t visit this site to see pics of suri b/c she happens to resemble my daughter like candice (i don’t have children, so i guess in that case i am the perfect parent). in fact, i don’t even have a real reason, except that there is something about this couple that really irks me. never liked cruise, was never a top gun fan, though he was alright for me in some later roles like vanilla sky, steel magnolia (??), interview… and holmes well, imo there is no talent, mere luck. kidman, well, she’s very talented, and like everyone else at the time, i was shocked to hear they were separating. saw her on oprah around that time when she was promoting moulin rouge, and well, she came across in the interview as extremely shaken up, vulnerable, and i sympathized. that was followed shortly by tom cruise’s freakish couch jumping, chasing holmes around oprah’s studio to get her to come out. holmes’ appearance on letterman really did not help her image, as she came across as a real airhead, so dull that she really couldn’t respond to david’s witty hectoring, and at times i even wondered if she knew. tom’s exuberance, katie’s stupidity, tom’s absurd interviews (i.e. germans, psychiatry) really irk me. that’s why i visit this site. the itch that just won’t go away.
  candice, i’m really glad this has become a discussion, more or less. i did say that i was not a good person to compare with the cruises; i am private, they are public figures. still stand by that. the pictures shown on this blogsite are PUBLIC PICTURES, and as far as i know, are meant to convey some sort of image, an ideal image, meant to garner public adulation and attention. and in their pics with suri, i believe their intention is to come across as ideal parents (they could be construed as using suri for that purpose). i’m long-winded so excuse me, but if these are PUBLIC photos, PR photos, why is it wrong to criticize them, even the parenting? why should all parents take it so personally, as you apparently do? are blogsites like these intended merely so that we praise this cople of freaks, going ooooo ahhhhhh what amazing people they amazingly are!??? and honestly, from what people incl. my mother have said, i’d like to know if bottle-feeding beyond a certain age was harmful for my child, whether babies should be in bed by a certain time and adhering to regulare schedules. even if the criticism was given harshly. and though there’s no one parenting bible for parents to go by, i do think certain tenets do exist which most people will and do agree on. . .of course, we don’t know anything about this couple for sure, but after thinking about your previous comments, i still think it’s alright to criticize the postings and pics i am shown. even parenting. this is my conclusion. i just wanted to make myself clear to you so you might understand better even though you might still disagree with me. with suri, yeah, i’ll lay off her, but katie and tom, why?

• jajorge
  Dec 16, 2007 at 3:51 am

  saw a picture in this week’s US magazine. “An elfin KELLY PRESTON greeted JENNA ELFMANS’s son, Story…at Scientology’s Christmas Stories benefit in Hollywood DEc.1″. do they or don’t they celebrate christmas then? scientologist, i mean.

• candice
  Dec 16, 2007 at 7:04 am

  maybe the cruise family is strictly scientologists, including connor and bella??, but katies family isnt which is what i was getting at. All i know is that if i married a jew (or some other religion) and took on that religion i wouldnt forsake my family on a holiday that is all about family time. I would like to think, and maybe im wrong, that the cruise family wouldnt do that either. I really dont know what they celebrate. i did once look up scientology after reading something about not being able to comfort a crying baby but i honestly didnt understand much of it so i gave up. Jajorge i dont think i said to lay off tom and katie, again i dont really like them, its just some of the things said are a bit cruel and irrelevant. Im not going to go into it again as you have (hopefully) all read my point of views so no need to repeat it. i dont think katie has much talent and she never was big in australia in fact dawsons creek didnt do well here at all. As for tom i do think he can act but the only movies i really liked (and mainly because of the cars and the romance surrounding kidman) was “days of thunder” and “interview W.A.Vamp.”. I do think katie got swept up in “all thats tom cruise” and while i cant quite remember im almost positive that in an interview when she was just joey she said something about wanting to marry tom cruise. (when i have some extra time i might try googling it) Imagine that, to be just a kid with a fantasy that came true!! Maybe when i was 18 i should of said i want to marry brad pitt!! :) just kidding (hope my hubby doesnt ever read this) As for little suri, maybe im a bit naive, but i think that the only mystery surrounding her is what people make up and want to believe. My daughter is 19 months and very tall for her age. While im average in height my hubby is tall so maybe thats why. She is alot taller and far more advanced in her learning than her cousin who is 17 months. While im digressing a bit im just trying to point out that no kid is the same. Also with the looks thing when both my kids were born people used to look at me suspicously as my babies strongley resembled little asian babies!! If it wasnt for them looking exactly like my hubbys baby photos i think even he would of accused me of an affair!! :) They both look like us now but when i look back on photos i cant believe the change! Big long story i know but im just trying to say that i believe suri is theirs. About their relationship, I can see your points and again i dont comment much of tom and katie as people as i dont care much for them but i guess you have to be a parent to take parenting critisism personally (or maybe it is just me). Im sure they arn’t complaining about their extra popularity and i will agree that sometimes things do look a little bit to perfect however i would still like to believe that little suri is loved and cherished the way all babies deserve and not just used for personal gain.

• bumblebeej
  Dec 16, 2007 at 3:12 pm

  I can’t read when people don’t paragraph. It’s too much. Perhaps there’s an important message in there somewhere, but I can’t be faffed to read to find out.

• bumblebeej
  Dec 16, 2007 at 3:15 pm

  Woops. just referring to candice. I did read everyone elses :) But candice seems to have left a lot of long monologues on a number of different threads.. Honey, please break them up a bit.

• candice
  Dec 16, 2007 at 9:36 pm

  well then bumblebeej maybe you have an eye problem because i just ran up the page out of curiosity and found that jajorges and taurusgirls are both not paragraphed. Maybe you just dont want to read what i want to say for a reason and maybe mine are so long because i have alot to say!!!! Either way when i get in a typing mood i just type so i guess you wont be reading any of my future posts either. Pity for you, you might learn something!!

• Lilianne
  Dec 17, 2007 at 9:42 am

  Candice, please keep your posts however you want them to be. If people don’t want to read the whole thing then they don’t have to. I hope you do stick around here too because it is nice to have someone with an alternative opinion to most of the posters here who are usually very against TC and KH. I am like you in that I am not really a fan of either but I like looking at the pictures.

• Libraesque2007
  Dec 17, 2007 at 10:52 am

  lord have mercy, WHAT on earth did I miss this weekend!!!!!!!

• Libraesque2007
  Dec 17, 2007 at 11:51 am

  Candice, get a GRIP.
  I’ll let you in on something ….THIS IS A GOSSIP SITE.
  WHY in the h e l l are YOU wasting your time coming here writing several short novels about how and why and what people comment on?????

  WHO CARES!!!!!!! better yet WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE SAY???? Just SHUT UP and quit criticizing the posters here….
  D A M N!!!!

• Balletmama
  Dec 17, 2007 at 12:23 pm

  Libra: I wanted your opinion about the foxnews article from last week. Here is the relevant part:

  “Cruise, meanwhile, will not leave Smith alone. He made a “surprise” appearance at Smith’s Walk of Fame installation this week, then flew to New York for the premiere of Smith’s new movie, “I Am Legend.”

  This is Cruise’s methodology from previous campaigns to anoint new “friends.” His PR history is filled with “surprise” visits and stiff hugs for new “pals.” He’s the only Hollywood star we ever see do this, and it’s not because he’s so gregarious. In every case some kind of story follows about Cruise and Scientology recruitment.”

  here is the link for the article:
  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316808,00.html
  And we were all wondering Cruise really showed up to “support Smith”. I guess Cruise has not gotten him, yet!!
  I wonder if the same is happening to the Beckhams…may explain jetting to all the concerts/games with PR girl in tow.

• Balletmama
  Dec 17, 2007 at 12:24 pm

  I KNOW I AM NOT GRAMATICALLY CORRECT!!

• Libraesque2007
  Dec 17, 2007 at 12:40 pm

  I totally agree with what they’re saying….totally…it’s a recruitment blitz.

  I also think we’ll see more completely outrageous stunts as January 18th nears (the release of A.M’s book)

  I wonder how much that ditzy actress got paid for lying that she had an affair with tc…..ridiculous.
  What’s next? A secret love-child? tc will yet again for the 6th time “save” someone to prove how macho he is? HAHAHAHAHA, it’s just too funny and yet so pathetic

• taurusgirl
  Dec 17, 2007 at 7:41 pm

  Amen, Libra! To your post about “who cares?” That was exactly my point to Candice. Why does it matter what anyone on a blogsite thinks of a couple of celebs???!!! Don’t get your knickers in a twist. This is entertainment!!!! Oh, and BTW, I had an affair with TC and we already have a secret love child, so that noname actress can’t steal my thunder! LMAO!!!

• Battlemama
  Dec 17, 2007 at 9:28 pm

  Does your husband know, taurus?

• candice
  Dec 17, 2007 at 10:46 pm

  Libra i think you just dont like to see alternative opinions and have someone disagree with you. Quite obvioulsy in your world its “my way or the highway” And no i wont shut up or stop writing novels as this is a gossip and opinion site as you all keep telling me. And i have untwisted my knickers so maybe you should all do the same as they must get quite painful when your looking and commenting on things on this site. If you dont like what i say then dont read anything under my name. Not hard when you think about it.

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