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Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes

Katie Holmes and Suri Cruise Birthday Pictures

by leora on December 19th, 2007

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Check out these pictures of Katie Holmes and daughter Suri Cruise on Katie’s 29th birthday.  Happy birthday Katie!

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122 opinions for Katie Holmes and Suri Cruise Birthday Pictures

  • nguzman
    Dec 19, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    I am glad that TOMKAT has updated the website with these new pictures of Katie and Suri. I am not sure where they are coming out of but I think its Color Me Mine in Beverly Hills. If yes, that explains how Suri got green paint on what appears to be a beautiful (and expensive???) white dress. Not only did she get paint on her dress, she got it on her blanket and probably Katie’s coat. But that seems to be the last think on Katie’s mind. But they probably had a very nice time together. Whether you like her or not, Suri is a beautiful child. Good luck to her. For some reason they don’t like putting a coat on her especially when its cold. And it was COLD yesterday. I live in Los Angeles and yesterday the rain came down HARD.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 19, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    Glad they are doing normal things, like painting together, but what person would take a 18 month old in a frilly white dress painting? I guess when you have money to waste, you can do silly things like that. Meanwhile, people are starving and going naked throughout the world.

  • gapeach
    Dec 19, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    I am completely floored that Katie is 29 years old. She dresses and wears her hair likes she’s in her 40’s, although I had assumed she was in her mid 30’s. Is she seriously 29???

  • nguzman
    Dec 19, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    This is actually the first time I see the immaculately dressed Suri “messed up.” She’s always dressed so beautifully (she definitely must have a stylist) and moves naturally and beautifully that she appears so adorable in all the pictures I’ve seen of her. And those are a lot of pictures: in a German zoo, Tiergarten square, Germany bakery, on a beach in France, with her mom in Paris, in New York, etc. She always looks pretty, and put together nicely. This is actually an “odd” picture. Katie probably took her to this coloring event on an impluse. I don’t think this was planned. I find it hard to believe she dressed up Suri in a beautiful white dress to finger paint. The problem here is that they are so wealthy she doesn’t stop to think that she is teaching Suri NOT to value money or expensive things. That’s how these young kids grow up and become reckless with money and possessions. They are not taught the value of money and expensive things and that is where some of the problems begin. They don’t appreciate the quality of life they are born into. I know Katie was not wearing these type of clothes when she was Suri’s age. Good luck to her. Hope Suri doesn’t grow up to think she an entitled princess. I mean look what happened to Princess Stephanie of Monaco, spolied rotten as a child and she has had a tough time as an adult.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    Beautifully said!!
    I was thinking how free Kh must be to just dress her daughter like that and not panic about the fact that it will get ruined. It would be nice to dress my baby like a princess for my b’day and not care. It would be nice to dress myself like the princess and not care.

    It is wasteful though!! There is so much she can be doing with all that money and she is not. I wonder why???? It would make Kh a much more beautiful person. The fashion side that she is putting so much effort into will not last long or be remembered for much longer.

  • candice
    Dec 19, 2007 at 10:20 pm

    I also have to agree with everything nguzman said. Kids need to learn the value of money and i have learnt that the hard way. My husband and i both worked when i had my son and as he was our only one for quiet a while we spoilt him. Now i have 2 and have decided to give up work to take care of them both we struggle on 1 wage with a mortgage etc etc and he cant understand why he cant have as many things anymore. He has no value for his toys and thinks he can mistreat them and mummy and daddy will just buy new ones. This is yet another mistake i have made as a parent that im trying desperatley to correct.

  • candice
    Dec 19, 2007 at 10:39 pm

    whats going on with this site?? I just wrote the same comment 3 times and its not showing up!!!

  • Battlemama
    Dec 19, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    Candice: You could be in moderation or censorship as we like to joke here.

    One more thing, I am usually laughing when i post here, so I hope I don’t offend. I really try not to take this seriously. It is a diversion! I will temper my comments about airhead and her sugar daddy.

  • candice
    Dec 19, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    There is a interview in parade magazine i thought you all might want to read. Can work out how to post the link so if you go to the site and then this week in parade you cant get to the interview then. It says something about the adopted kids calling katie mum. But i had read somewhere that they dont call nicole mum and she gets up them for it. I wonder if its true.
    Apparent quote: Earlier in the year Nicole said: “My kids don’t call me mommy, they don’t even call me mom. They call me Nicole, which I hate and tell them off for it.”

  • candice
    Dec 19, 2007 at 10:52 pm

    Yeah i have been in moderation before. But i didnt say anything bad this time so i dont know whats going on. My last 2 comments came out fine so im not sure. I will try again and knowing my luck it will come out all 4 times and i will look like a fool!!!

  • Battlemama
    Dec 19, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    I would go ballistic if my kids called the honey mom. KH has NO RIGHT to that title for Connor and Bella. That is very obnoxious on KH’s and Cruise’s part, if it is true. Those kids have a mother and it is not TC’s latest honey.

    (Okay, I am actually serious about this comment.)

  • toledo fan
    Dec 19, 2007 at 10:59 pm

    this site does that sometimes- maybe when being updated by Leora?
    The bodyguard is holding Suri’s coat- I know she usually is without coat when the parents have coats and/or jackets on but maybe KH didn’t want to have green paint on the coat too. If you are able to blow up the pics you will notice green paint (or something) on Suri’s shoe, tights and arm also. Don’t places like this have “paint smocks”? Or maybe the Parents are responsible for this and KH”S staff forgot to check on this- tsk, tsk.
    She apparently came out of the side door as if to convey that she was trying to avoid the paps- right! If she wanted to avoid- she would have had driver pull right up to the door- as you can see- there is room for a car at the door.
    I am so glad to see her wearing appropriate shoes!!!!! and not stillettoes!
    ah…..time to get rid of the infant bottle?????? And the blanket in the “color me” shop- couldn’t that be left in the car??? Oh Well- new inexperienced mom- will pay for this later with bigger tantrums.

  • candice
    Dec 19, 2007 at 11:03 pm

    battlemamma. I dont get offended easily so please write whatever is on your mind!!:)

  • toledo fan
    Dec 19, 2007 at 11:04 pm

    I agree about her letting the kids call her Mom- if that is true. that’s a lack of boundaries and lack of respect for their Mother!!!!!! How sad.

  • nguzman
    Dec 19, 2007 at 11:15 pm

    Who knows the real relationship between Nicole, Tom Cruise, and Isabella and Connor.
    When they were younger, Nicole was making a lot of movies, about 2-3 per year in the early 90’s and 2000’s and so maybe they don’t feel bonded to her. I am not a Kidman nor Cruise fan. This family caught my attention AFTER Suri was born and “restyled” around June/July 2007. This was when I say she caught the attention of the world because I read a magazine from Spain called HOLA and she appears in that magazine periodically. And so there is a demand for pictures of Suri. She has made Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise more interesting. Prior to that I didn’t really pay attention to Katie Holmes. And I think that is why this baby got a makeover. If you look at the way they dressed her the first year of her life versus June/July 2007 onward, her quality of clothes has completely changed. The same goes for Katie Holmes. She is better dressed and better toned today then last year or pre Tom Cruise. I think Tom Cruise likes his women fit and toned. Notice how his mom, sister, and Katie Holmes are all in shape. I saw a picture of Isabella back in June 2007 and she looked chubby and maybe that doesn’t fit well with TC. I know that Nicole is the mom of Isabella and Connor but you also have to “earn” the title of Mom.

  • jajorge
    Dec 19, 2007 at 11:54 pm

    haha. obviously, using suri as pr baby worked then. the image makeover too. personally, i don’t think katie’s so fit and toned, and if you see pictures of her behind in the black one-piece swimsuit she has a tofu ass. her ass and breasts sag, and though she obviously spends a lot more money on clothes now than she did on her dawson creek days, at least she didn’t wear transparent shirts to highlight a black bra underneath then. WHO dresses like that? madonna, for her concert tours? britney? paris? not even posh. And POSH has firm boobs. also check out katie’s posture b/c she has a really bad slouch. i know form and posture are really important to acquire the right muscles.

  • nguzman
    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:05 am

    Jajorge, I don’t think she’s done yet. But something definitely changed in June/July 2007 because that is when Suri & Katie’s clothes began to change drastically. This is around the time they began their “european tour” and the pr machine began. Suddenly there were those pictures on the beach in France beautifully taken that resembled postcards and Katie wearing that memorable black one piece bathing suit, then Katie’s famous walk in a German park with Suri dressed in Roland pants, the extensive photo shoot of Katie walking around in Paris with Suri, and their quick trip to a German zoo, etc. And the recent trip to the Grove with Suri in that beautiful read dress. I bet there will be more sightings of Suri and Katie as her movie’s premiere nears. Suri is captivating. She is not the most beautiful child but she definitely has that “star quality, that it factor” that makes a person’s picture in demand $$$. Katie reminds me of a person that was middle class and suddenly has EXTRA purchasing power to buy everything or anything she wants and she is doing exactly that.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:15 am

    I read the PARADE article. Every time KH talks, she sounds like she is trying really hard to convince people she is happy. At least to me it does. It’s like she has to keep saying it to convince herself and it is the same thing over and over again. Nothing new!!
    It’s like the amazing thing she used to say all the time. Now, it is family this and family that. She is not very original. As Jajorge mentioned: It is all about image now. Except the family image is now only Holmes, Cruise, and Suri.

    ALso, it seems like Connor and Bella are the after thought. Same with the IN STYLE piece. The article is Suri this and Suri that and then Connor and Bella call me “Mom.” It is just thrown in there with no other mention of them again. Also she says all of her and Cruise’s family will be there at Telluride for Christmas. But, no mention of Connor and Bella not being there. Not even, we will miss them while they are with their mother. According to KH: It is a family Christmas. What about Cruise’s other kids. Aren’t they family?

    My theory, they call her Kate or whatever and KH and TC want to change it to MOM. I have seen that in divorce situations. Also, I think with the Sciento. brainwashing, they are indirectly punishing Nicole for leaving the cult and they do it through her kids. I honestly believe Cruise keeps the kids from Kidman as much as he can. Don’t Scientos. believe in cutting off non-believing family, especially those that leave?

    No, I am not a fan Nicole either, but she is still in the picture and she is their mother.

  • nguzman
    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:29 am

    Battlemama, I agree with you as far as they are probably isolating Nicole because she is not a Scientologist. I think when these women (Mimi Rodgers, Nicole Kidman, and Katie Holmes) met Tom Cruise they were all beginning their career in Hollywood and thought through their association with TC they would have a successful career. Only glitch was that he was a scientologist. They probably thought they could work through this. The only problem is that this is a big deal for Tom Cruise. Katie probably doesn’t see that right now because she is claims she will be celebrating Christmas. I thought Scientologists didn’t celebrate this holiday. But this will become a problem when Suri begins to grow and the question becomes which faith / religion will she be taught. I think that is when TC and KC will tangle. By then KC will have already shopped at a lot of stores, bought a lot of beautiful things, and want to address her spiritual life for the sake of her daughter.

    Look at Madonna. She worked hard and gained money, power, and fame and yet there came a time (especially after she had kids) when she needed to address her spiritual life and she began seeking to satisfy that side of her soul. She found that in Kabalah. I think the same thing happened to Tom Cruise and John Travolta. After you find fame and money and have bought everything you could possibly think of, travelled to every interesting place in the world, you still find a void that needs to be filled. Some people fill it with booze, or drugs, or sex. But not Tom Cruise or Madonna types (control types), they need “something” to address their spritual life.

    I think money, power, and fame is an intoxicating thing and it over took these women. I think one day this will pass for Katie Holmes and she will be seeking “something” to fill her spirtual side. We will see…

  • jajorge
    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:45 am

    i don’t know, but two years is a bit young in my opinion, to be able to see if the kid has the ‘it’ factor. and there are so many other kids that are captivating, older kids too, celebrity spawn, and i don’t think it’s that their pictures aren’t in demand, but their parents definitely limit their children’s public appearances so magazines can’t print them….. i really respect johnny depp and vanessa paradis for the way they’ve tried to keep their personal lives private, same with gwyneth paltrow and chris martin…. a 1 1/2 year old doesn’t have a choice in the matter, and until they can decide for themselves what they want, i think a celebrity parent should try to make life as normal for their kid as possible. if you look at child celebrities, a lot of them end up sad cases b/c of missed out childhoods, with few exceptions….

  • nguzman
    Dec 20, 2007 at 12:57 am

    What I mean by the “it” factor is that there are many pictures of Suri in Europe that were beautifully taken. And I mean hundreds of pictures. There is something about her that makes her so adorable and captivating looking. This is not her doing, its her parents that are putting her out there. I mean if you see Wenn’s pictures, or Getty’s website, etc., they have hundreds of pictures of this child and she looks adorable in 98% of the pictures. Not every kid can look that interesting and adorable in pictures. This little kid does. I mean she is photogenic. When Katie took her to a Galaxy game, she came out so beautiful in the pictures and those pictures sold for $$$. Splash on line also has a lot of videos of Suri and she appears so adorable. That is what I mean by the it factor. There are not a lot of videos of Violet or Kate Hudson’s kid. But there’s a lot of Suri.

  • jajorge
    Dec 20, 2007 at 1:14 am

    yeah, you’re absolutely right. it’s called STAGING. not by suri, no, but by her two selfish parents, and paparazzi who’ll make money for good pics. i don’t think she’s the most beautiful baby, but i also don’t think she’s a troll. she’s just average, a normal kid. what you wrote could simply just prove that the cruise team has good PR people. And, i don’t think other celebs take their kid around like the cruises, and give photogs as many photo opportunities as they do. i mjean, i know people would LOVE to see more pictures of shiloh jolie-pitt (who i think is absolutely gorgeous and far more captivating!), but angie and brad just don’t display her out in public like the cruises.

  • jajorge
    Dec 20, 2007 at 1:16 am

    and i certainly don’t think it’s b/c they’re not as proud parents as the cruises!

  • bumblebeej
    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:42 am

    She always volunteers information about Suri. The question wouldn’t even be about her being a mother, her kid or anything, but she’ll pop ‘Suri’ in there. Most other celebs refer to their kids as ‘my daughter’, or ‘my son’, to try to persevere in protecting their kids from the glare of the media. Hello Berlin?! W T F?

  • Battlemama
    Dec 20, 2007 at 9:12 am

    Here is the link for the PARADE article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/19/katie-holmes-dishes-chris_n_77577.html

    She brings up Connor and Bella when she is asked about the girl bonding thing in MAD MONEY, not when asked about family–which makes me question the validity of the remark. Also, she said her and TC can’t be away from Suri, yet they can other two. Even Nicole said she wants more time with her kids.
    I always question when stepmoms/dads talk about having their spouse’s kids from a pervious marriage do stuff like this because it not from the kid’s mouth. It, more often than not, is done by the one spouse to hurt another. I think that was exactly what was intended by that remark on KH’s part: to hurt Nicole!! Whether or not it is true is another thing, but the insult has been given.

    This is just like when Jolie had to mention she was expecting Shiloh when Brad was still married to Jen. It is nothing but a low blow. Kh is not the sweet little thing she likes to portray she is. Unfortunately, no one will call KH on that remark and the insult intended to Nicole behind it. (Ironic, it comes after Nicole says that the kids call her ‘Nicole.’ This insult was planned.) I hope TC’s new honey does it to KH in ten years. Then she will see how low she struck Nicole!!

    In the family questions, she says she started her Christmas traditions last year with Suri since that was Suri’s first one and also it was about growing up. Also, it was Suri making cookies and Kh and TC cooking together. No mention of the other two! This further makes me wonder about her relationship with the two and the validity of the ‘MOM’ remark.

    As I said before, I think the kids probably do it because of their dad and Scientology dictates that they call KH “mommy” because Kidman left the cult. I have heard that in Scientology, if a parent is kicked out or they leave that as far as the kid’s are concerned, they are taught that parent is dead or inconsequential. Also, their time with the kids is severely limited, if not cut off all together.

    Connor’s and, especially, Bella’s look when they are with their mother, Kidman, tells me there is more of a bond there. I have never seen them with that look with KH.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 20, 2007 at 9:22 am

    As a mother and what silly Kh does not get, is that what she said is the ultimate insult to a mom. I could understand it if Nicole wasn’t in the picture, but she is. I think we now see that Miss Holmes is threatened by her husband’s past.

    I had some respect for KH as a person, but she is now sugar-coating her insults with talk of family and being a mother. KH is getting very vicious in her attacks, but because she sugar coats them, no one calls her on them. Please don’t give me that this is what she is programmed to do. I think KH may be smarter and more in control than we give her credit for. She still can control what she says. She better take note, because even daddy’s pre-nup will not prevent Cruise and the next honey from doing this with Suri to KH. I guess KH will be boo-hooing to the press if it did happen to her.

    Maybe KH needs her thetans purged again.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 20, 2007 at 9:41 am

    It was Mimi who introduced TC to Scientology. He left her because he wanted Nicole. Mimi also didn’t compare to Nicole in the looks department.

    Kidman became disaffected because she realized TC would dump her if Scientology told him. She also couldn’t turn her back on Catholicism. (Just what I have read.)

    From what I understand, and this fits with the business meeting theory, is that Scientology has tried to keep Cruise supplied with young actresses so he can appeal to younger generations and promote Scientology to them.

    Candice: Good for you!! It is harder on one income, but what you are doing will be so much more important and have a lasting positive impact on you, your husband, and your kids. WAY TO GO, GIRL!!

    KH had an epidural, so I am not surprised labor was a breeze for her and she had a silent birth. Mine were too and they were pleasantly calm. All I had to do was lay on the table while the doctor removed the babies. The recovery was h e l l, though!! I only had 6-7 pounders too. LOL!!

  • smartgurl23
    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:17 am

    Katie and Suri look great

  • What?
    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:21 am

    It looks like brainwashed Katie lets Suri do whatever she wants. At that very moment Suri decided that she hated being dressed in high fashion like mommy. So she thought she would teach mommy a lesson. “I’ll show you for making me wear expensive dolly clothes” said Suri as her head rotated towards the nearest bakery. Then Suri used her $cientologist mind control on weak minded mommy and forced her to take her into “The Bakery. ” Upon entering the very expensive bakery Suri then convinced mommy to toss her at the most expensive cake sitting on the counter. Suri liked being thrown across the room with her magic flying blankie tied tightly around her neck, it was the most freedom and comfort she had ever experienced thus far in her life. She hoped that one day she would be able to fly just like her imaginary (oops) I mean real Theatan friends. Upon landing onto the cake loaded with frosting…Suri thought “Mmmm real food and Mission-Possible.” That explains why she is covered in textured green sugary glop that is all over her dress and blanket and is seen in these photos washing it down with her bottle of $cientology milk.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 20, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Toledo: Is the cruel ding bat really having her entire family out to Telluride for Xmas or is this more lies from the Cruise camp?

    What?: Thanks for the laugh. That was good!!

    What are KH/TC trying so hard to sell? It becomes more obvious each time they talk.

    Doesn’t Cruise usually have interviewers send questions in advance when he interviews? That may explain some of the crap KH is attempting to sell the public.

  • Libraesque2007
    Dec 20, 2007 at 3:15 pm

    YES, they must pre-approve questions, and it is rumored that when tc did that ridiculous interview with Diane Sawyer the only way he’d do it was if HE wrote the questions and basically scripted the interview.

    and to answer the question about the coat…..how can the world see her expensive clothes if mommy puts a coat over them? It doesn’t matter what the weather is like….katie could be in a down parka and the kid would be in a sleeveless burberry dress

    JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY this kid STILL has an infant bottle attached to her 24/7??????????

  • Battlemama
    Dec 20, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    Libra: Please don’t use my Savior’s name as a swear word!!

    Have you read the PARADE Mag. article, yet? Talk about horse dung being shoveled our way. I wonder if KH was wearing fashionable clothes when she did it.

  • Libraesque2007
    Dec 20, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    It was the most revolting thing I’ve read in a LONG time. It’s disgusting, she is truly a vile person. I can’t stand tc for a number of reasons, but ater reading that blasphemous
    S H I T, I REALLY can’t stand her

  • toledo fan
    Dec 20, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    Battlemama- thx for the Parade link- gawd- she should have a 5 second delay button so her handler could bleep some of the ridiculous things that come out of her mouth.
    About the Telluride “get-together”- TRUE, the whole Holmes gang flies in from T-town to Telluride. Her Mom, Dad, 3 sisters and their husbands at the time, their children, her brother and whoever is his current grlfrnd (and her kids if any). Seems TC has a large guest house on the property- from Katie’s side there would be 10 adults and 6 or more children. Katie plans the meals but has several staff to do the food shopping,cooking etc. I know from the article it sounded like the family cooks- no,they might “make something” but no, the kitchen staff shops and cooks, the cleaning staff cleans, does laundry, etc, etc.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 20, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    Toledo: Comment about the “MOM” thing. Everyone is staying away from that here and I think it is the most telling thing about KH’s character.

    But, no Connor and Bella who will be with their real MOTHER!!! I guess KH’s family is all there…straight from KH’s mouth on that one. No mention of the adopteds missing out.

  • toledo fan
    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    About her letting the step-kids call her “Mom”- if that is true-which I doubt, unless…their freako,psycho father has told them they must do so- that’s a lack of boundaries and lack of respect for their Mother!!!!!! How sad. I know KH’s Mom is a very respectful and knowledgeable person and is cringing at this statement. Needless to say she is not at all comfortable with this union btwm KH and TC- you can see it when she looks at TC plus the fact that she will not discuss them with anyone!!

  • New York
    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    Well, I have a good question that I don’t believe has been brought up thus far. TC’s two older children call Katie mom? And they call their real mom “Nicole.” Okay. When would they have the opportunity to call her “mom”?!!! Nobody has seen those kids in ages. They are not included on trips with the family, they are not included on concerts with the family. Katie is out celebrating her 29th with her daughter Suri?! Great. BUT WHY NOT INCLUDE SURI’S TWO OTHER SIBLINGS IN ON THE GET-TOGETHER?! I absolutely loathe how those kids are excluded from everything. I predict that in about five years we’re going to see some very public spectacles coming out of Camp Cruise, namely, his two younger children. When they will have the opportunity to voice the horrors of their lives. It does not appear as though Nicole has been the best mother. That is definitely apparent. I think all this B.S. about the kids calling Katie mom has something to do about them trying to do DAMAGE CONTROL before Andrew Morton’s book is released.

  • New York
    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    All that crap about the cooking and how TC is a great cook. They sound so ridiculous. They talk about the dumbest stuff. I think TC is a crazed work alcoholic who has absolutely NO TIME for his children. Suri is a big boost for the two of these COMPLETE NUT-JOBS, so they are using her for PR. I’m a bit embarrassed at how obsessed I am with these people. I can’t remember a time that I have ever been so “interested” in a story like this before. I really think it stems from being lied to. I just HATE being lied to. And it is so APPARENT that this is just THE WEIRDEST UNION ANYBODY HAS EVER SEEN. I would give anything to be a fly on the wall when those two are alone together.

  • New York
    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    And another thing: The clothes! The clothes! The clothes! What on earth does KH do with the EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE CLOTHES that she only wears once?! We never see her in the same thing twice. We both know neither one of these complete DING-BATS have an altruistic bone in their bodies, so what does she do with them?! Do they spend the kind of money on Isabella and Connor’s clothes as they do Suri’s clothes?! Do they care?! Do something for the world with your wealth, you complete selfish freaks. The two of you are the most ridiculous people I have ever seen in my life. And by the way, freaky new hairstyle that blew everybody away at that last shindig (obviously done by a stylist) that Katie was showing off?! IT HAS TO BE THE UGLIEST HAIRDO I HAVE EVER SEEN. Not done up and in the rain? NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR HER. My gut is just telling me that she is just screaming her brains out on the inside. I just know she has to be completely miserable. Every time she opens her mouth, she just sounds ridiculous. Trying so, so, so, so hard to prove to the world something we ALL KNOW to be untrue. And that ridiculous comment about the mini skirt. Who the hell talks like that?!

  • Libraesque2007
    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:17 pm

    I meant to comment on the MOm thing….I sincerely hope she did this interview BEFORE Nicole K announced to the world HER kids don’t call her mom and it upsets her…..otherwise this a completely crass nasty thing to have said. Even if the interview was done before Nicoles came out she should have called and requested that quote be taken out
    she doesn’t have a SHRED of decency

  • New York
    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:23 pm

    Libraesque2007, I absolutely agree with you. It is beyond cruel. KH is NO MOM to those kids. If she were, SHE WOULD INSIST ON INCLUDING THEM IN THEIR LIVES. I have a feeling these to wing-nuts have their hands full with two very unhappy older kids (because of sheer neglect), and they are hiding them away from the public so as not to embarrass them even further. Katie, if they adore you so much, then WHY ARE THEY NEVER WITH YOU?! WHY ARE YOU NEVER PHOTOGRAPHED WITH THE TWO OF THEM?! I know many, many blended families, and I know of know family who would not include the kids on vacations, concerts, and the like, and just basic day-to-day life.

  • New York
    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    For the Record, I think the older kids would have enjoyed the Spice Girls concert (I hear they went twice or more) much more than Suri. AND ONE OF THE CONCERTS WAS IN LA! No, just TC, KH, and Suri. Oh, it must have been a school night and they were studying. Yes, that’s what it was, it was a school night. OH, WAIT, THEY DON’T GO TO SCHOOL!! HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE PEOPLE.

  • New York
    Dec 20, 2007 at 6:31 pm

    I’m back. Sorry! I’m on a roll. Also, doesn’t anybody find it extremely disturbing that there is ALWAYS a bodyguard in tow?! These people aren’t royalty. I would bet a lot of money that these are Scientology goons, definitely affiliated with Scientology. If I were Katie’s parents, I would just be completely beyond sick of this whole nightmare. That insipid comment KH made about Tom loving the mini skirts and saying he hoped she had security around her! WHEN IS SHE EVER ALONE?! Tom certainly doesn’t strike me as a warm-and-fuzzy guy. My gut tells me that KH doesn’t even “know” him. I think he keeps his secrets close to the vest. Okay, now I’ll zip it (for now).

  • Libraesque2007
    Dec 20, 2007 at 7:01 pm

    yea, that comment was completely revolting re: security….I mean what does that even MEAN???? It makes no sense.
    SO, at christmas dinner, are her parents allowed to say grace????

  • jpb
    Dec 20, 2007 at 7:07 pm

    THE BOTTLE IS BAAACK!!!
    WTF!!
    people need licenses to fish but any nimrod can “raise” a child??
    i’m not perfect as a parent, i know i’ve made mistakes but the bottle continues…

  • Battlemama
    Dec 20, 2007 at 7:27 pm

    new york: I think we come back to this site because it is like a bad, phoney, melodramatic movie that makes us sick, but we have to see how it ends. Besides, Suri is cute.

    Toledo: I think her parents don’t talk about them because they had to sign a non-disclosure agreement in order to see KH or Suri. I am sure they have been threatened by the Cruise’s attornies that if don’t they don’t behave they will not see KH or Suri.

    Also, they go along with this charade and lie. I mean, a family Christmas in Telluride with non-believers when Holmes and Cruise are trying to portray the perfect family life. Then, KH annoucing it to the world for Cruise’s and hers PR of the perfect family life. Again, no one has called KH on the fact that all the family won’t be there like she keeps stating. Connor and Bella will still be with MOM.

    The Holmes are all part of the charade just by being there. I just wonder how much lower they will all sink to humor their vicious ding bat. I hope KH’s mom puts KH in her place over that comment about the kids calling her mom.

    I hope Kh watches Nicole closely, because that will be her in 8 years. I still think Cruise has a way to get Suri from her.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 20, 2007 at 7:37 pm

    I have nothing against her parents, but this Christmas in Telluride thing is PR stunt and they have to be blind to not see it as that. Maybe they are going for a good ski weekend. I am just disappointed that decent people humor these idiots with all the obnoxious things that they do. Why are they not called on their comments and behavior? It’s disgusting!!

  • nguzman
    Dec 20, 2007 at 7:48 pm

    I am not a baby expert but it seems clear that the bottle and blanket bring some neuroassociation to Suri : blanket + bottle mean = calmness + security. She seems to be sucking on that bottle rather hard. And I am sure the presence of photographers/papparazzi clicking away at her and probably calling out her name is probably “puzzling” to her. At the age of 20 months she probably does not comprehend why they want her picture. She will probably grow up wanting the spotlight, the attention, etc., and this will be thanks to her parents. I mean you can tell in these pictures and also the ones taken in New York that the attention of the photographers make Suri TURN AROUND in Katie’s arms to see what is the noise in front of her. Even in the video of Suri on TMZ when they are walking on the streets of New York, Suri seems puzzled at the phototgraphers. Probably thinking “what is that, is this normal?” I can’t imagine how her parents could explain it to her. I agree about Isabella and Connor how they are shafted to Siberia. I mean, “where are they?” I wonder if they have access to the Internet.

  • nguzman
    Dec 20, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    And you can tell that of all the pictures Katie has taken with Suri (in the park, zoo, bakery, shopping in Paris, New York, in that beautiful read dress at the Grove, etc.) she was trying to HIDE the green paint that is on Suri’s white dress because she has her arm over it. Katie knows that a lot of people were going to comment on this. Why would a mom take a 20 month old fingerpainting in a white beautiful dress? There are so many issues that come up here: lack of appreciation for expensive clothes, lack of judgement in what to wear, the bottle, the blanket, no coat or sweater, etc.

    And this bodyguard is either from L.A. or they brought him from Europe because he went with them to the zoo in Germany.

  • taurusgirl
    Dec 20, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Just to add to the hideous mix that is KH and TC, have you guys seen this?http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=22876
    So- TC doesn’t own a watch? Didn’t she get him one as a wedding gift and now another for Christmas? What’s with the snakeskin sneakers? Ugh!
    What girlfriends???? The only people the pics of her shopping showed were her handlers, personal shopper and bodyguards. I thought it was pretty clear she had ditched all her old pals. Posh, nor Jada or anyone of the like were there, so exactly who were these chicks?
    Looks like media spin to me. I doubt anyone was there with her. She is photographed everywhere she goes, so if she had been with friends, I’m sure we would have seen them in the pics. They are trying too hard. She is trying to hard to convince the world that she is in love and has this wonderful family and home life, yet is it so obviously disfunctional.

  • taurusgirl
    Dec 20, 2007 at 8:17 pm

    Ok, it didn’t post as a link. Let me try again. I think it’s cuz I didn’t put a space between the question mark and the link.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=22876

  • jajorge
    Dec 20, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    i don’t know anything for sure, but if that RETARD katie holmes thinks i’m going to buy that image of perfection that she’s trying sosoooooo hard to sell, she really is stupid. oh, but then, she IS, isn’t she? every picture shows some lack of judgment or common sense. i’m wondering from the mom comment though, if it’s just stupidity or malicious attack against the ex. the thing that really really irks me is the discrepancy between her image (wholesome, intelligent, sweet) versus the stupidity conveyed the moment anything comes out of her mouth. paris hilton is sooooooo intelligent in comparison. such a level of stupidity is sadly fascinating.

  • jajorge
    Dec 20, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    katie holmes tops them all in the stupidity department. truly! can’t think of a stupider celebrity, nor one less talented. i challenge anyone to come up with one!

  • Carla
    Dec 20, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    Cruel or not, let’s face reality here. Suri was an ugly baby, and she is just a normal looking kid now. There is nothing amazing about this kid. She is not beautiful, or captivating, like some people post. Maybe to you she is, but to me she is not. There are babies who I see in Macy’s who are a thousand times more captivating than that kid.

  • Carla
    Dec 20, 2007 at 10:13 pm

    And how much longer is the gawky mother going to carry around her heavy load kid? That kid drinks enough barley liquid mixture like it’s her three meals for the day. Have we seen any pictures of her eating solid food, other than a roll in Germany?

  • nguzman
    Dec 20, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    I think Suri is adorable and so do a lot of people that is why there is an army of photographers waiting to snap her pictures. Without Suri, Katie and Tom are not that appealing. Just wait for January when Katie’s movie comes out. You will see a lot of photo ops of them as a family. But hey, this is a money driven business and your image is a big thing here.

  • jajorge
    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:01 pm

    to an extent, i agree with you. image is a big thing, sure. but no matter what the image, i think talent is also a huge thing. at least for me. and if the actors are not talented, meaning unable to convey believably the roles they are playing, i will not go and see the film, b/c i know i’ll just be cringing throughout. i give entertainers a chance, but after several disappointments, image no matter how perfect, will not get me to see their work.

  • jajorge
    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    as for the army of photographers, i do think that similar armies of photographers await sightings of other celebrities with their babies i.e. jolie-pitts, paltrow-martins, julia roberts….. however, those parents don’t want to use their child(ren) for PR purposes like the cruises, and so, don’t arrange publicity photo shoots…. might be that those parents don’t feel so desperate and actually strive for artistic recognition for their craft…. something the cruises, especially katie, has no chance of ever achieving. sorry, i do think acting chops requires brains!

  • linty389
    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:15 pm

    People keep on mentioning the quote Nicole said about her kids not calling her mom. She didn’t actually say that. I live in the UK and I saw that interview. She said something like, they don’t call me mummy, they call me mom or sometimes Nicole which I hate and tell them off about.

    I find it interesting that Tom and Katie didn’t take them to the Spice Girls concert, but they supposedly went to Keith Urban’s concert in LA a few months ago.

  • jajorge
    Dec 20, 2007 at 11:57 pm

    fashion too.

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 12:06 am

    I agree that talent is irreplacable. Only the truly talented actors and performers last for decades. The rest are a dime a dozen. They come and go and are replaced by the current flavor of the month celebrity. However, that doesn’t mean that an army of photographers are waiting to take their picture. On every celebrity website you visit: X17Online, Wenn, GettyPictures, SplashOnline, TMZ, etc., you see Britney being hounded by photographers. And I think Britney and the Lindsey Lohans are deliberately seeking attention because they are out every day in locations that paparazzi patronize. I mean who wants to go through all that for a cup of Starbucks coffee? Can’t Britney buy herself an espresso machine? She is attention hungry and worse part of this is when the photogs stop following her around. That is gonna be sad day for her because she will be desperate to get her picture taken and there will be few takers. I think Britney was an extraordinary lucky person to have achieved the success she did because I don’t think she is very talented as an entertainer. There’s very few celebrities that have an army waiting for them. I don’t see Paltrow-Chris Martin nor the Afflecks, Kate Hudson, Brooke Shields, etc., in the same league like Suri, Shiloh, and Britney’s kids. It is not even my opinion, you can see it in the videos being taken and the madness that is happening around them when these celebrities are out and about. Someone should publish the rates these photographers charge for pictures of these celelbrities and you can clearly see why there are more following one than the other.

  • toledo fan
    Dec 21, 2007 at 12:14 am

    yeh, supposedly she got him a watch for a “wedding” present! I forgot to mention- in the pics of them coming out of the hotel (another weirdo event!) did you notice TC had in his hand what looked to be a cell phone/blackberry??? he who professed to NOT having this among other things!! does he think we’re all idiots? He’s as dumb as dirt!
    Oh and AMEN to all of the above- geeze- it’s like watching a BIG train wreck- we cringe and can’t believe what we’re seeing but we have to watch anyway to see what happens. You’re going down fast TC and KH and I don’t see any parachutes!

  • jajorge
    Dec 21, 2007 at 12:32 am

    he wants to portray some image as a LUDDITE, only he was so stupid he forgot. oh well, dumb meets dumber, and they are the perfect fit for each other. agree with nguzman on a lot of points. everything except that suri is captivating and has the ‘it’ factor. i find her average, with fancy expensive clothes. imagine spending $5000 on baby’s clothes on a single day! no wonder appropriate attire isn’t a concern, even for fingerpainting activities. just throw it away, she’ll never be able to wear all her clothes anyway!

  • jajorge
    Dec 21, 2007 at 12:33 am

    and don’t anyone tell me that a baby can discern quality clothes! a baby doesn’t appreciate it, and from my experience with children, they’d rather be comfortable than pretty.

  • toledo fan
    Dec 21, 2007 at 12:34 am

    Just got this off of a site called ‘fumin.com’ won’t post link- probably would be in moderation.
    Wonder how much of this is true. If someone at the store blabbed, they will probably be out of a job tomorrow! Here it is;
    “Katie Holmes is in a generous mood this Christmas and has been spotted on a $100,000 shopping spree to treat husband Tom Cruise and daughter Suri with some special gifts.
    Katie’s gift buying binge included a $30,000 rose-gold Cartier wristwatch and a Prada ski coat for $1,395 claims In Touch weekly.
    The actress also treated Tom to a black Giorgio Armani suit for $5,400, Gucci snakeskin sneakers for $990, and four pairs of Barker Black handmade English shoes at $825 each. After that, Katie hit the Loro Piana department and loaded up on everything cashmere, including a $9,000 overcoat, a $2,995 car coat, a $4,495 leather and cashmere jacket and six V-neck sweaters in various colors at $1,350 each.
    It’s not only Tom who is getting treated this Christmas Katie also splashed out nearly $5,000 on dresses and clothes for her 20-month-old daughter, Suri.”

  • toledo fan
    Dec 21, 2007 at 12:36 am

    taurusgirl- I agree! snake skin sneakers? eeewwwu! :P

  • jajorge
    Dec 21, 2007 at 12:37 am

    nguzman, i’m exasperatingly fascinated by the dumbest couple ever. maybe that’s why people follow them around so much. stupidity is indeed fascinating!

  • jajorge
    Dec 21, 2007 at 12:39 am

    yeah, the shopping spree…… it’s nice to spend your husband’s money to buy him gifts. maybe this xmas i’ll ask my parents for money so i can buy gifts for them!

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 12:50 am

    jajorge, no matter how you look at it, we are all fascinated with them (for whatever reason). I am in my forties and I have always been fascinated with the entertainment business and how they market the stars, celebrities, etc. I have been ready celebrity rags and biograhies since I was a young teenager. I don’t know why I have been fascinated with them. And this “staging” goes back to the days when the studios would market their stable of actors. What they said, how they looked, whom they were dating, etc. A great example is Rock Hudson who was tall, handsome, and a fairly decent actor. The big studios knew back then that the public would rather buy into the good looking man goes better with a good looking woman (Doris Day) then a good looking guy. That sells and that is what they (Cruise and Holmes) are also trying to sell. I don’t know that Tom Cruise is gay (I know many will probably disagree) but if he is, he probably knows it is better for his career to stay in the closet. There are very few celebrites that have come out (with the exception of Ellen Degeneres, Elton John, and I think barely recently Jodie Foster) that have successful careers. There is no doubt that Suri is a help to Tom & Katie’s image. Until this year around June/July I began to see more and more pictures of Suri, Katie, and Tom Cruise. And that caught my attention because the either hired a permanent stylist around this time or something a strategic plan went into affect to change their image.

  • jajorge
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:06 am

    you’re right. they’re selling suri, or as others would say, pimping her out. that’s something i and some others absolutely can’t stand. though i don’t think she’s as captivating as you, i agree that if she were absent, they wouldn’t ’sell’ so well. i see her as a victim in a lot of ways, b/c she has no say in her life, and two idiotic and/or selfish parents. those dumbasses are pimping her out b/c they know they’re falling, with nothing else to revamp their careers. poor suri!

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:36 am

    I feel for Suri because she didn’t ask to be born, she was born into this. And the first months of her life her parents deliberately hid her. They claimed it was because they didn’t want to expose her to too much noise. It got to the point that people questioned whether she actually existed. Late night talk show hosts David Letterman and Jay Leno kidded around in their opening monologue if Suri even existed and then boom, she made her debut at their wedding in the middle of loud papparazii clamoring for her picture. There’s a video of this on Associated Press, CNN, etc.and so there goes the excuse of TC & KH trying to protect her from LOUD NOISE.

    And so fast forward to today, she is out front and center, looking in my opinion adorable, captivating, and photogenic. I feel for this little girl because what will all this attention do to her psychologically? I mean, will she grow up thinking she is an entitled princess because all these photogs (perfect strangers) are calling out her name to get her picture. I think this is what bothers me the most. And I know very little about Scientology but from what I hear of it, I don’t agree with how they believe they should raise their child. I believe one of the greatest things you can give a child is love, discipline, affection, stabitliy, a happy family, etc. When you don’t discipline your child you are asking for trouble.

    I read the biography of Princess Stephanie of Monaco and heard her mom Princess Grace state in a video that she spoiled Stephanie because she had two miscarriages before she gave birth to Stephanie and so she spoiled her rotten. As a teenager, Stephanie was a handful and to this day she has had trouble finding a stable relationship. Ironically sometimes people think that money and fame buys happiness but that’s not always the case. A lot of young celebrities today are in a sad state. Good luck to Suri she is a cutie.

  • Carla
    Dec 21, 2007 at 6:18 am

    They made Suri very intrugiing from the beginning. Katie’s pregnancy was a mystery, with her belly being big one day, and small the next. Then they hide her away for many, many months, and when she does appear, Vanity Fair admits that they had to photoshop the pictures. Why? I think that their little daughter did not come up to the standards that they set, in the looks department. Then we see the kid’s pictures over the course of a year, and one day her face is fat, the next it’s thin. FOr a time, we even speculated that they had a twin or double used when some of these photogs were taken. I am intrigued to look at the kid because of her changing physical characteristics, just like her mother’s. Katie, over the course of two years, had cosmetic surgery on her face. Compare her older pictures with today’s and her eyes are set straight, her nose is not as pudgy, her ears don’t stick out, and her mouth and teeth are straighter. Suri’s debute pictures showed an Asian-persuasian with slanty eyes. Now, her eyes are not so slanty, but she is crossed-eyed. I have nothing against the child, and at times she does look cute.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 9:32 am

    Yes, this is an image driven industry, but there are laws against child exploitation. Pitt reamed out the press again in October about photographing/calling his kids in public. Also, when Princess DI died, Cruise cussed the press out for causing her death and forcing themselves into people’s lives. Hypocritical that ding bat and him are staging photographs like she did.

    Yes, Suri is cute, but no more than any of our children. She just has the stylist and the clothes that haven’t been stained from play and worn from use. My girls would look lovely in a frilly white dress and their hair and make-up professionally done.

    Yes, KH is such the mom to Connor and Bella, that is why they got nothing at Nieman Marcus and Suri got another $5,000 in clothes. (I am dripping with sarcasm on this one!!)

    Yes, KH is such the talented actress–not, but no one heard of her until she hooked up with Cruise. Now, she is only known for her daughter, husband, and shopping sprees. And she is turning down roles that would be more challenging, like the BATMAN RETURNS sequel. It would certainly get more publicity/money than MAD MONEY!!!

    In terms of an actor being versatile across the decades: Cruise has been!! It has been over 30 years since his first role and he was well known for 30 of those years. So there goes that theory. Besides, many experts think he will still bankable in the years to come.

    I am curious: How many of you are going to see MAD MONEY or anything else these idiots are affiliated with? You don’t like them and they exploit their kid. I was delighted when Cruise wasn’t go to be in the new Trek movie, because I really wanted to see it, but I couldn’t do anything to support his career because of his choices.

    TOLEDO, your are a good researcher. So here is my challenge to you: Did Nicole shop like KH when she was married to Cruise? Also, did Cruise and Holmes give Kidman a wedding present? I know Kidman gave them a crystal vase for their wedding. (We may find out who the more generous person is on this one.)

    I have a feeling KH is pushing the $6 million mark again this year and that is just clothes shopping. I wonder if Cruise will dump KH sooner because it would be financially better for him to divorce her than be married to her and her spending. She will be in for a rude awakening when she has to go on a budget and work for her bread!!!

    I am curious to see when people are going to get sick of this gluttony and boycott the Cruises for that. I mean millions of Americans are facing foreclosure on their homes in the next year and KH dumps $100,000 in one shopping spree for stuff to collect dust in the closet. What a silly, wasteful, vicious ding bat. BUT THEY ARE JUST LIKE US!!! I thought they banned the use of animal skin for clothes. I thought Hollyweird was protesting animal cruelty.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 9:34 am

    Boy, I am long winded!!

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 10:55 am

    From foxnews:
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317765,00.html

    Finally, the mainstream press is calling Cruise on his nastiness towards Nicole!!! I don’t buy the Holmes didn’t know what she was saying crap. She said it and she meant it as a jab at Nicole!! I think Ms. Holmes is jealous of Kidman and what she has. She also feels threatened by Cruise’s past; any normal person would be expecially if the ex is as successful as Kidman!!!!!!!!!

  • Carla
    Dec 21, 2007 at 11:35 am

    Battlemama:

    Our freedom in the USA allows us to have as much money as we desire, and the freedom to spend it any way that we want. It’s her money now, she acquired it, so she can do with it whatever she wants. She can hoard it, spend, it or give it away. THere is nothing wrong with her spending money on items that others can’t and will never afford. For the ultra rich, theres’ the deigners. For the rest of us, there’s Walmart. In a communistic society, things would have to get evened out. We don’t live like that. I like capitalism, don’t you? As for the people who acquired mortgages on homes, who really couldn’t afford them in the first place, the foreclosures are taking away something that they shouldn’t have had or shouldn’t have acquired. In stead of living in a 5 bedroom, four car garage home, they will have to settle for a three bedroon, one car garage. It’s the way it goes.

  • Libraesque2007
    Dec 21, 2007 at 11:39 am

    OH GOD!!! she bought him more of those awful v-neck sweaters? AAAAKKKK!! they’re so hideous!!!
    these two couldn’t accomplish successful PR if they tried….every attempt is a big FAIL, it’s so pathetic. SO before now people simply hated cruise, now people are not feeling kh for this dumb a s s interview she did

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:15 pm

    Katie is simply acting like a person that used to belong to the middle class and has suddenly found herself part of the upper class sector and let loose with a black American Express card. That is why she is frantically shopping, using TC’s plane to go here and there. This is new to her. I know she did not grow up in a wealthy family. Her father is a lawyer and probably made a decent salary. But I doubt that he was a high priced lawyer, probably just your average lawyer with a family. By the looks of things, if you look at Katie’s photos pre Tom Cruise she did not wear expensive clothes, or was ever photographed shopping in Paris or London. She was small time television actress. Frankly, I don’t have anything against her but I never heard of her until she started dating Tom Cruise and they suddenly became engaged. The press made such a big deal out of it that it you saw Entertainment Tonight or Access or any of the celebrity shows you heard of this. And then the cover of People magazine and all the rags. I think all of this was exciting to her. Like she says in the interview which is already being posted on several websites, TC is teaching her a lot, exposing her to a lot of new experiences, etc. I am sure he did the same with Nicole Kidman. She also became more attractive after she married Tom Cruise. I mean you can see it in the pictures. At the prime of their marriage they both looked great, they were young, fit, and good looking. Even when Penelope Cruz date TC she had her teeth capped. You can see before and after pictures of Penelope Cruz and you can see her smile changed. I read this magazine from Spain called Hola http://www.hola.com
    it is a really nice magazine with a lot of beautiful colored pictures. Something like Life magazine was 20 years ago. And it always has coverage on Hollywood celebrites, royal families, etc. They ran a picture of Penelope Cruz pre TC and after TC and she definitely capped her teeth during their courtship.

    I think TC is very aware of the power of image and the power of looking good. People like to see beautiful things, yes, it helps if you have talent but up front people like beautiful pictures, people, etc. Beauty upfront sells, and then of course REAL TALENT is what makes you last decades and makes you a legend.

    But there is a price to pay for this.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    Yes, Carla, and i have the right to call her a wasteful glutton, especially when she pretends she is so nice and giving!!!

    Carla, she earned it by selling herself and her baby. Even in our country selling people is not allowed, especially children!

    I do like our Capitalistic system, but there is a higher law we are all held accountable to: helping each other and easing suffering. I think ultimately what determines who and what we are is what we have done to not only help ourselves, but others as well.

    Stories through the ages have had the common theme that if you are a glutton and think only of you and yours, you are really a shallow empty person. It is the person who is rich in charity and thinking of others that has a rich, full life. A fact that I was attempting to point out with Ms. Holmes and her shopping!!
    She is trying to make her life rich with clothes, vacations, etc, but she is a very POOR person in what matters the most. I keep looking at the opportunity she has been given and she is wasting it…Again, showing how shallow she is. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME AND EXISTENCE!!!!

    As far as the ultra-rich, what gives them the right to think they are better than us because we shop at Target or Wal-Mart? Many do walk around with these superior attitudes toward us peons of the world. That is my big complaint about the situation.

    I do agree that people are held accountable for what decisions they make (i.e. the mortgages) but people like Holmes and Cruise bombard us with messages that we can’t be happy until we are like them with the vacations and clothes. They are accountable for promoting that life style as well as anything else they promote–healthy or unhealthy.

    I also think all of Hollyweird is way over paid. What do they unhonestly contribute to society that we can’t live without.

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    And Isabella and Connor are right now about 13 and 15 years old. Nicole won her Oscar in 2002 for The Hours, that was five years ago, making Isabella about 10 years old. Right around that time and before Nicole Kidman was making 2-3 movies per year and so I doubt she was always around her. I think Nicole also came from a middle class family and was on the brink of breaking into Hollywood when she met TC. Her looks and career also changed. I think she is talented but she probably also got a lot of connections via her marriage to TC. When she walked away from this marriage she was awared millions of dollars, several homes, and a year later an Academy Award for Best Actress. Today, her career is dwindling, with the exception of Happy Feet, the talk of the town is how Russell Crowe and Nicole Kidman are over paid. I don’t feel sorry for her. She has millions of dollars and reached the top of her game and was publicly awarded an Oscar for her work. She will go down in Hollywood history whether you like her or not.

    Hollywood loves to bring people up and then drop them fast. That is why they probably make a lot of money because it might not last forever.

    As for Isabella and Connor, everyone involved knew they would be raised Scientoloigsts including Nicole Kidman. She agreed to it and probably now that she is on the outside probably feels helpless that she can’t change that. God help those kids.

  • Libraesque2007
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    time has not been kind to tc, he has not aged well at all. All that supposed clean living he does has done nothing for him. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 40-ish actor, who was once attractive. look so bad, unless they’re a booze hound, like Nick Nolte. tc’s nose seems to grow by the day, bigger and off to the side… and his face in general is just SCARY….the hyena-on-crack face, the jacked up teeth, greasy hair, too tight clothes, the man-boobs (moobs), the oh-so-obvious 3 inch lifts in his shoes…….it’s all just so pathetic

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    I lost my response to Carla.

    I respect the fact we live in a capitalistic society and I believe in personal accountability to choices made, but there is a higher law we are all accountable to: helping others and relieving suffering.

    Besides, Cruise and fellow actors are not worth the money we pay them!! What essential thing do they honestly provide society that we can’t live without and that justifies the money we pay him?

    I am sick of Hollyweird and the ultra rich telling us peons that we are nothing without the clothes, vacations, etc. I sick of the “Suri is the cutest baby ever.” NO SHE ISN’T!! She happened to be born into it and her mother sold herself for it. She is only cute because her face is plastered everywhere by her ego-maniac, exploiter parents!!!

    I am sick of everyone saying KH is the mother of the year for 2007 since she was photographed with Suri facing out so much. No she is not! It is women like Candice, Lilianne, and me who are at home trying to make a happy home without the three nannies, stylists, cooks, no stress, and millions in the bank and we still find time to help others!!!!!!

    If it were me with the cash, yes I would buy new clothes, etc., but I would use the opportunity to help others. (I am the same age as KH.) She is a wasteful glutten-pure and simple. HER TRUE VAIN COLORS ARE SHINING THROUGH!!!! I am sick of having her life style shoved down my throat as the pinnacle of life!! Most of her life is a lie, TC and Suri aside. She lies about her family gatherings, she lies about how she hooked up with Cruise, etc.!!!

    She may play at the “I have everything!” in the press, but in my eyes she is a very poor woman. She sold herself and her baby for money, compromised whatever values she MIGHT have had, shops all the time for things she doesn’t even need and could possibly never use, and only promotes herself and her crappy fashion style. Has she really done anything to help others with her new fame, other than keep the stores in business? Please tell me!!

    She apparently bought some Xmas stuff last year for a family, but took the cameras with her and couldn’t even remember the family’s name when she got there. Sounds like a PR stunt to me!!

    I come back here because, honestly, yes I like to look at the train wreck and her man, but mostly I like talking to you guys. It is nice to have these discussions.

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:42 pm

    And Tom Cruise is very aware of what Katie Holmes says in interviews and so he probably wanted to give Nicole Kidman a jab for the interview she gave to Vanity Fair where she tippy toped around the subject of how they came about with the idea of adopting Bella. The rumor mill was saying that Tom Cruise was FURIOUS with Nicole for talking about that interview.

    I think today Nicole, who is ambitious herself, is missing the spotlight on her. She is still famous but her light is slowly dimming… It’s true, her latest movies have flopped and according to Forbes magazines she is not longer the top 5 highest paid actresses. But that’s okay, not even Julia Roberts is in that bracket anymore. These women were extraordinairly fortunate because they were able to make a lot of money and possibly change the lives of their most dearest loved ones and people in the world that are needly. The love of money is the root of all evil but you can also do a lot of good with money if used properly.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    I read somewhere that being poor is easier than being rich. It is when you are very rich/desperately poor that your true character comes out!

    For those you who compare the old Katie and the new Katie: They are the same people just with more money. KH mentioned once she would not eat sweets so she could buy a new outfit. Looking physically good is her priority in life.

    To h e l l with that, give me chocolate!!

  • Libraesque2007
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    I mean how did he go from this

    http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/264327~Tom-Cruise-Posters.jpg

  • Libraesque2007
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    to this

    http://www.poster.net/cruise-tom/cruise-tom-photo-xxl-tom-cruise-6218420.jpg

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    Nicole’s last movie flopped here in the US because people were boycotting THE GOLDEN COMPASS. The author wrote the series of books in order to kill GOD. Many Christians are boycotting because of the movie theme, not Kidman.
    From what I heard, it did really well overseas.

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    Battlemama, I am certain you are a great mom. Money buys temporary comfort, but it does not buy love nor real friends. Those things you earn. I am grateful for my life. I think its hard to be successful and happy in Hollywood where beauty and power is the goal. There are very few celebrities that are very successful and have been happy. I love to read biographies of famous people (actors and celebrities) and I have found that there are very few wealthy people who have found a stable marriage and true love. I think it is especially hard on wealthy women: Barbara Hutton, Princess Caroline, Princess Grace, Queen Sophia of Spain, Paris Hilton, Princess Stephanie, Farrah Fawcett, Reese Witherspoon, Nicole Kidman, Jennifer Aniston, etc., the list is long. Even Angelina Jolie suffered finding real meaning in her life UNTIL she adopted Maddox. It is ironic but sometimes we have the most important things in our lives now and we don’t see them. But I think a lot of you guys know what you have already. I wouldn’t trade places with Katie Holmes for nothing in this world. Life is not always easy, but its MY life and its REAL and the people that love me LOVE ME for me not for what I have. Happy Holidays!

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:57 pm

    Nicole was also doing mostly kid’s movies, which don’t generally do well overall.
    Also, Nicole showed her movie at a children’s hospital in Australia for the kids and their families for free.

    I think there is a lot of competition between Kidman and Cruise right now and silly girl KH is joining the fight with Cruise.
    Regardless of what Kidman said, that was still a low blow on KH’s part!!

    Also, from what I understand VANITY FAIR was not sure if they wanted Katie or Nicole on the front of their cover. I guess Nicole won out and that has got to hurt Cruise and Holmes.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 1:59 pm

    I agree with you! As I said, the big reason I come here is talk to you guys.

    I have a winderful hardworking man and three kids I would not trade for anything in the world!!

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    Battlemama, you are richer than Katie and Nicole because you have a real family. Real love does not have a price tag. Its priceless. Real love is so powerful that it transends death and lives on forever. Some people never find real love.

    The Beatles were right on the button when they recorded “All You Need is Love.” Money helps, but its not the answer to everything.

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 3:01 pm

    There is something about the number 18. Has anyone noticed that Katie’s birthday is on Dec 18, they were married on November 18th and they claim that Suri was born on April 18th. I think there is something else that happened on the 18th. Is this a coincidence or do these people follow some kind of numerology?

  • Libraesque2007
    Dec 21, 2007 at 3:28 pm

    they apparently met on April 18th also

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    Oh I know I am rich and well loved. Every so often I feel like I am missing something, but I remind myself i am not.

    Honestly, I feel like the most beautiful woman in the world when i go out on dates with my husband. We have ten years under our belts and he still makes me feel that way :):)!! Some more money would make life easier, though. LOL!!

    The more I read about KH, the more I see how phoney it all is. It is the number 18 thing that is so unbelievable–possible, but not really when you consider other things.

    Also, they weren’t married on Nov 18th, that was the day of the big Italian party!!

  • Libraesque2007
    Dec 21, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    it wasn’t even a big Italian party….it was a $cientology recruiting event…….who the f ^ c k has 400 people at their wedding? And apparently there wasn’t a single friend of kh’s there….from her hometown or DC days

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    In fact Nguzman, I have a hot date tonight with my man for my birthday :)!!

    At least, Kidman had a real wedding!!!

  • jajorge
    Dec 21, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    i think there is a quote that the richest person is the one with the fewest wants. according to this, katie would be the poorest person. carla, i agree with you that consumerism is essential in a capitalistic society, but choices can still be made. one doesn’t have to buy $5000 worth of baby clothes on a single day, b/c IMO that is just plain wasteful and stupid. look at the environment, and think of what we ARE entering globally climate-wise.
    i think it’s highly probably that katie is jealous of the ex. a lot of women usually are, and more reason if the ex is more talented, more fashionable, with leaner legs and more roles despite the age difference. perhaps the jealousy explains the malicious snide mom comment. as for her career, it’s my opinion but i think THE GOLDEN COMPASS is a great movie to watch, both adults and kids. i like the writer, b/c he doesn’t shy away from profound subjects i.e. death just b/c he’s writing for children. some people say it’s anti-christian…. but i’d have to disagree. it is an art after all, and it doesn’t profess to be non-fiction or memoir either.
    well, even if her career ends here, she’ll have accomplished far more than katie ever will no matter how hard katie might try.

  • jajorge
    Dec 21, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    and nguzman, i think all babies are fascinating and captivating. if a camera crew followed any baby around like the army of photogs follow suri, anybody would be able to take a good sellable photo at some time. honestly, she looks petrified in some of the pictures too.

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    I agree that Nicole had a real wedding. I bet she had the wedding of her dreams. It was the wedding she didn’t have with Tom Cruise. They had a private wedding and that was probably because she is Catholic and he’s a Scientologist and they couldn’t agree on the ceremony.

    Katie probably thinks that is not gonna be a problem with her but I bet religion will become a problem as Suri begins to grow up and Tom wants her to learn Scientotlogy 101.

    Already with the Christmas celebration its like the pink elephant in the room. I mean is she just celebrating Christmas in the form of buying presents or is she gonna celebrate the real meaning of Christmas as the birth of Jesus Christ the way Christians all over the world do. This will come up again and again for Christmas, baptisms, Easter, funerals, etc. That is when she is gonna tangle with TC and his real colors are gonna come out.

    And this is only the beginning. But the hook is in, there is a biological baby involved and that is gonna make it hard for her in the future to balk because she knew what she was getting into from the beginning. I think with TC he is so wrapped up in Scientology that he is not gonna be swayed by KH.

  • jajorge
    Dec 21, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    i mean, on the capitalist thing aagain, they could be spending money on things like BOOKS. when they are snapped shopping, katie’s nearly always in a clothing boutique. and she dons designer clothes and all…. but when was the last time we ever saw her carrying a book?? a parenting book maybe, would garner some more respect? there are a lot of things money can buy, that doesn’t necessarily have to be all merely superficial.

  • nguzman
    Dec 21, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    If you guys saw the GodFather Part II when the character of Michael Coleones’s wife Kay Adams (played by Diane Keaton who’s Katie’s co-star in the upcoming Mad Money), wants the leave Michael and take their two children with her. He tells her “do you think I will let you take my children from me? Don’t you know I will use all my power to stop you, etc, etc.”

    The same thing will happen to Katie Holmes. If they ever spilt up, Suri will stay with Tom Cruise.

  • Battlemama
    Dec 21, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    Have you seen it Jajorge? I read the books and I do think they can generate a lot of good discussion. I don’t think Pullman pulled off another CHRONICLES OF NARNIA or LORD OF THE RINGS, though.
    I know my husband and i very picky about movies because it is so expensive to go to the theater. Also, we are trying to become debt-free.

    The Cruises do spend money books–so Suri can throw them!! Seriously, it is probably the Scientology literacy program primers. I heard they are quite good, but all they are are Scientology propaganda. CA looked into them for their public schools because of how good they are, but quickly rejected them because of serious issues with Church-State separation. They are Scientology tracts, if any thing.

  • Carla
    Dec 21, 2007 at 6:59 pm

    Does everyone remember the movie, The President’s Daughter? I noticed that Katie wanted to be like the ultra rich and be special and right into the lime light, that she believed she was the president’s daughter. Well, she now has bodyguards (who she probably has fallen in love with), a big house in which to kick up her legs and flop down the stairs, maids who bake her own chocolate cakes, and gets photos of her every movement in public. She is living that kind of life. That lifestyle doesn’t come cheap though. In exchange, she has given up her friends, became estranged to her family, changed her physical appearance, changed her religion to worship a cult, out-sourced her daughter for publicity and pretends to lead a normal romantic life with a gay, sterile, and impossibly controlling mate, who may or may not be married to her. Sounds like an even exchange to me.

  • New York
    Dec 21, 2007 at 7:04 pm

    Carla, HOLY TOLEDO, OHIO, you NAILED IT! Yes, I actually did see that movie recently on HBO. YES, YOU NAILED IT, CARLA!

  • jajorge
    Dec 21, 2007 at 8:13 pm

    i’ve only read the golden compass so far. not the other two. i’ll be going to see the film tomorrow.

  • toledo fan
    Dec 21, 2007 at 9:51