Katie Holmes and Her Purple Hands
I know there has been a lot of chatter on the internet about Katie Holmes and her purple colored hands. Inside Edition picked up the story and shows pictures of Katie with the black gloves on and also with her hands tucked away, obviously hiding them. As some of you know, there is speculation that it is from a Scientology purification practice.
The bottom line is no one knows what it’s from. The fact that she had purple hands on the set of Eli Stone makes me wonder if it is going to show up in the show. I don’t understand why she would do something that could turn her hands purple before she films her Eli Stone role. Could it maybe be for the role? Who knows. It’s all just a lot of guessing.
Katie’s hands, as seen in some recent pictures of her, are back to normal. :D
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96 opinions for Katie Holmes and Her Purple Hands
Anne
Jul 25, 2008 at 7:21 pm
I am sure there is a very innocent explation since the fingers were OK the very next day. But I know some thoeries have been developed already.
Jane
Jul 25, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Oh wow…do they read this blog?
It might have somethin to do with the TV show she was doing.
American
Jul 25, 2008 at 10:04 pm
They must be purple for a good reason, maybe she has a medical condition such as raynaud’s or lupus, maybe it was from a scientology vitamin regimen. I think it is reasonable to ask her to give her fans an explantion. Many famous stars have done that, I think she should keep the public that cares about her informed, Many stars have done that.
tyler
Jul 25, 2008 at 10:49 pm
This is old news.
Lickabee
Jul 26, 2008 at 12:21 am
I think Katie is olive skinned compared to Tom. People think I am white, but when you see my skin next to a white person, I am actually brown. Who knows what it is. The media doesn’t contact their publicist these days, they just let the rumor run along as long as possible.
Anabel
Jul 26, 2008 at 9:02 am
Agree that it had to do with her role. While the Scientology Purification process can cause health problems if the body can’t get rid of the mega-doses of vitamins, it wouldn’t show up just in her hands!
I don’t know what illness purple hands -for just one day -would be a symptom of - LOL - maybe Julie could ask a medical professional.
PuckHappy
Jul 26, 2008 at 9:33 am
Strange as it was, why would a tv show not just use make up that could be washed off at the end of taping? BEFORE she went home?
m
Jul 26, 2008 at 11:05 am
Funny as it sounds, it’s probably something far simpler than any alarming article mentions. If it was a scientology “thing”, it wouldn’t just affect her hands. So, it’s highly unlikely. Think of it. It’s far more likely that she was ding something like dying her hair with a black rinse to freshen it at home, or using dye to refresh a favorite black outfit. People are so quick to assume that celebrities wouldn’t do such things themselves, but Katie is a normal person. Or, perhaps she was doing black icing and making cookies or some art project with Sure…who knows? And actually, the funny thing is…maybe she had on hand cream because her hands were extremely dry…and maybe she put on whatever gloves she could find to further seal in the cream..and maybe the black gloves caused the dye to excrete on her hands once it came into contact with the oils from the hand cream! There are all sorts of basic explanations that reporters gloss over when trying to sell “news” and negative reports of people. Don’t buy into it. Smart women and moms like us can thing for ourselves. :)
PuckHappy
Jul 26, 2008 at 11:44 am
She can even drive herself to a dance practice, nor does she never wears the same outfit twice, and now you expect a free thinker to believe that she will dye her own hair or clothes?
PULEEZE!
Besides that, how do you know that a cos ritual would color more then JUST her hands?
Lauren
Jul 26, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Does someone remember Suri’s ‘dyed’ hair and the public furor it caused only to appear its same color the very next day? Why do people feel the need to think the worst?
concerned mom
Jul 26, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Nope Lauren I don’t remember that about Suri at all. I didn’t want to believe they would dye a child’s hair but it was in days and days of pictures. Not normal the next day..Might have been the light tho..
concerned mom
Jul 26, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Vast amounts of Niacin along with drinking vegetable oil and so forth which is part of the purification rundown can according to the online articles I have seen cause discoloration of the extremities-feet, hands etc. Don’t know if this is what the problem was but I imagine she is in some major auditing before going to NY where she will be working with wogs 6 nights a week for months and months…
tyler
Jul 27, 2008 at 11:01 am
Oops, Katie forgot to use the rubber gloves that came with the Nice n’ Easy box? That explains it!
Sherry
Jul 27, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Eli Stone has a lot of weird stuff happen on it. It’s definitely possible that it’s role-related!
jenna
Jul 27, 2008 at 7:54 pm
lets hope its role-related and not health…….she is so pretty…hate to see anything wrong with her!
Lauren
Jul 28, 2008 at 6:34 am
CM, the color was in one set of pictures. Infact you can go to any fan site of Katie and check out the chronology of pictures. I think Julie gave us a link to the JJ site and the very next set of pictures, JJ himself rebutted the assumption that the hair had been dyed. Well, it was too late, some people had already jumped to all sorts of conclusions and called Katie an unfit mother. Even on this very site. No apology when the next pictures came. Atleast JJ retracted their assumption. But not the posters.
Same for Katie allegedly getting fired from Batman, Tom changing her name to Kate, Katie never working again etc etc. Many wrong assumptions that make people go off the rails.
tyler
Jul 28, 2008 at 10:57 am
The baby’s hair was probably lightened by the sun. Their hair also naturally changes color in a very short time. Look at how quickly their bodies grow. Same idea.
Having said that, if Suri’s grandma or aunts were at the hairdresser getting their hair bleached and Suri wanted to try a little, you know that she didn’t take no for answer :) Just saying.
Midwestern girl
Jul 28, 2008 at 9:17 pm
http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec12/ch154/ch154c.html
look at the Merck manual info on niacin… she could cover a rash on her face and neck with makeup (she has access to the best makeup artists), and we can’t see her feet…
Midwestern girl
Jul 28, 2008 at 9:22 pm
whoops, that was deficiency, and we all think she took toxic doses… but concerned mom is right, a bunch of other websites have reported symptoms just in the hands and feet, and I have seeen several reports from individuals on websites (taking it for cholesterol or other issues) describing burning hands, written before Katie’s purple hand problem
http://www.drugs.com/sfx/niacin-side-effects.html
concerned mom
Jul 28, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Thanks for that link MWG. Excellent factual information- hope it doesn’t get deleted because it is after all part of this subject. Yes, I do believe that the purification rundown process which was the idea of LRH himself, who had no medical degree of any kind, is rather dangerous and ill-advised. No real medical professional would recommend such a procedure/process to put your body thru. The extreme levels of niacin is what I think makes it so dangerous but also might exhibit external issues like discoloration or purple hands, feet, etc. There were a number of sites with all kinds of pictures of Katie and this phenomenon. I have no idea if this was the cause, but there isn’t really another plausible reason for this that I can see.
Mary
Jul 28, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Katie has not though been wearing much makeup at all. In fact the most recent pics of her have her with very little makeup.
In the series of pics on the set of Eli Stone, there are many pics of her with her hands in full view with none showing a discoloration.
Mary
Jul 28, 2008 at 10:17 pm
We have seen Katie’s feet. She’s been wearing sandals and flats a lot lately.The most recent pics have evidence of that.
Anne
Jul 29, 2008 at 10:48 am
I will never understand why people need to build a conspiracy theory in every aspect of Tom and Katie’s life. I am one to love a good sherlock Holmes but after a while it becomes too much. Whatever she did or she did not do, give it a rest. Who cares if she was going through a scientology ritual? The last I heard she was a scientologist. Every one is free to believe what they want. I don’t understand why her hair, her fingers, her toes, her shoes, her smile etc are spun into these gand theories.
If people need adventure, they should buy a good Agatha Christie or go to the cinema. Let the girl live her life.
Anon.
Jul 29, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I believe Cruise was accused and hammered for making couch side diagnosis about people. Aren’t we all doing the same thing here?
Since when is a purple hand so newsworthy?
Julie: How come there are no articles here about Bella and Connor going to see their real mom and new baby sister or Nic moving to L.A. to be closer to her kids? This is all about Cruise and gang.
Anon.
Jul 29, 2008 at 12:26 pm
In regards to Cruise and his women: The man has a long history and Holmes is just another notch on his belt. In fact, if you notice, his women keep getting younger each time. In terms of them staying together, time will tell.
Many were shocked when Nic and Cruise broke up so suddenly, especially after the big 10th Anniversary renewal of vows at the Telluride home.
In terms of Mimi Rogers, she had a huge impact on Cruise. She introduced him to Scientology. Nicole and Cruise have two children together and were the Brad and Angie of their day. And no matter what Katie thinks, she IS NOT the mother of Connor and Bella mother.
Lauren
Jul 29, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Anon, time will tell. You are contradicting yourself. If Tom has a long history why then were you shocked when he split with Nicole? You would have rolled your eyes given his long ‘history’. Besides we have all been alive and watching and Tom is neither a loose man nor a serial cheater. Yes his first marriages failed but so have many people’s marriages celebrity or not.
So far, they have beat the odds and proved naysayers like you wrong. Good for them. I hope they continue to do so.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 29, 2008 at 2:32 pm
I think “time will tell” is correct. Tom and Katie have not beat any kind of odds. They haven’t been together very long at all! Not from my perspective anyway. I’ve been married for much longer.
The reality is 50% of marriages in the US fail. The percentage is even higher for second and third marriages and even higher than that in “celebrity” marriages. This is Tom’s third go round. I hope they do make it. I wouldn’t wish a break up on anyone, but I think we’re far from saying they’ve “made it”.
I think the reason people were so shocked that Nicole and Tom broke up was that they were married for 10 years and they always SEEMED happy. 10 years is a lifetime in Hollywood!
The truth is, just as Nicole and Tom SEEMED happy, we obviously had no idea of the reality of their marriage. Just as we don’t know the truth about Tom and Katie’s marriage. It could be wonderful or it could be awful. Tom always commented on how much he loved Nicole. Even right before the breakup!!
For all we know, Tom and Katie are one step from calling it quits OR the happiest married couple alive OR something inbetween. There’s just no way of knowing unless you live with them.
tyler
Jul 29, 2008 at 2:33 pm
What conspiracy? Please!
Julie posted the purple hand story for discussion so if anyone here has a problem, you know who to talk to.
And, if you don’t want to hear about, you don’t have to. By now, you should know whose posts you enjoy reading and whose you don’t.
Always whining. LOL.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 29, 2008 at 2:40 pm
I will never understand why people need to build a conspiracy theory in every aspect of Tom and Katie’s life. I am one to love a good sherlock Holmes but after a while it becomes too much. Whatever she did or she did not do, give it a rest. Who cares if she was going through a scientology ritual? The last I heard she was a scientologist. Every one is free to believe what they want. I don’t understand why her hair, her fingers, her toes, her shoes, her smile etc are spun into these gand theories.
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I disagree that any of the speculation about what occurred with Katie’s hands is the desire to build a “conspiracy theory”. I think it’s just plain old curiousity about something very unusual. It’s not everyday that you see someone with purple hands! LOL!! It’s also not everyday that you see someone wearing gloves in the middle of summer in LA or socks with sandals. Lets face it….it’s UNUSUAL. Just because the Scientology Purif. was mentioned doesn’t make it a conspiracy, IMHO. No more than the speculation earlier in this thread about hair dye, clothing dye…etc. Everyone is just sharing opinions, but you have to admit….it was odd!! ;)
Having said that, it could be for the role she was playing in Eli Stone OR it could be a result of an extreme amount of vitamins (I hope not - large doses of niacin are dangerous!!) OR something simpler, although I don’t think it’s realistic that its a result of hair dye or clothing dye or a reaction of hand cream! I sincerely don’t believe Katie dyes her hair or her clothing herself.
We just don’t know. I’ll wait until the Eli Stone episode comes out before I draw a further conclusion.
Anon.
Jul 29, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Lauren: Never said they would or would not make it. I just meant that time will tell if they stay together or not. Everyone thought Cruise and Kidman would last and look what happened. You never know with any relationship what will happen.
You do like to shred others apart for no reason, don’t you. For someone who claims to do this for fun and who claims to treat others with respect, you sure do put a lot of negative energy into this.
I am guessing here: You are mad with me that I said Katie is not Connor and Bella’s real mother. You can’t argue that, so you shred for me for saying time will tell if Cruise and Holmes last or not. Nothing is guaranteed in life except birth, death, and taxes!!
PuckHappy
Jul 29, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Lauren, tc has had TWO failed marriages. Along with MANY failed relationships.
Now it does take two to make things work. But BOTH need to give. And personally, I do not see tc as a giver in a relationship. By that I mean I do not see him giving in and not getting his way. Example:
He would never give up a role so his wife could have a role in the most successful movie ever. She would be the one to take a lessor role so he could have his way.
If you notice, kh is doing all of her gigs around his schedule. It works for now. But most actors/actresses are strong willed, hard headed and want things their own way. Will kh used to be strong willed and hard headed. Will that fight she had ever return? What will happen if it does?
Mary
Jul 29, 2008 at 3:50 pm
In 2005 TC was effusive in his praise of KH in Batman Begins.
I think the decision not to do TDK had something to do perhaps with her being a new mom and her wanting since her DC days to work with Diane Keaton.
Maggie Gyllenhaal said something very interesting in a recent interview………….Her baby was 7 months old when she started TDK and 14 months old when she finished it.
Perhaps Katie did not want to be away from Suri that long even perhaps with a week here or there. KH said before that you never get that time back.
PuckHappy
Jul 29, 2008 at 4:15 pm
But she will be able to “get that time back” after she is done on Broadway?
She speaks from both sides.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 29, 2008 at 4:22 pm
I really don’t think we can say “they beat the odds” at this early in their relationship! My goodness…..they haven’t been together that long!! LOL!! Talk to me when they’ve got 20 years under their belt!
50% of all marriages fail. The number is higher for second and third marriages, and “celebrity” marriages seem to fail even more often than that! This is Tom’s third go round with marriage.
I really hope Tom and Kate are happy and remain happily married for years to come, but the truth is we have no idea of what goes on inside their marriage. Tom was with Nicole for 10 years with two children. I think people were so shocked by their divorce because they SEEMED LIKE the perfect couple and as far as all reports were concerned, they were happy. Ther was very little forewarning that their marriage was on the rocks. Almost none, as a matter of fact. The reality is that we see only what they want us to see. Obviously, they put up a front in public for a very long time.
Tom and Katie may have a lovely relationship OR they could be 2 steps from divorce and absolutely miserable. We have no idea since they’re obviously not going to share it with us.
Whether fan or critic, we’re ALL speculating. I hope they’re in it for the long haul as I don’t wish divorce on anyone, but there’s just no way of knowing unless they want us to know, and that’s HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 29, 2008 at 4:27 pm
But she will be able to “get that time back” after she is done on Broadway?
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I gotta agree with Puck here. Broadway is extremely time consuming! IMHO, Katie would have been better off doing TDK when Suri was just a little baby. Suri would have been too young to remember that Mommy wasn’t around quite as much.
In this situation, Katie is going to be tied up for months and months (4, I believe with previews - 2 shows a day, 6 days a week) with a very aware 27 month old who absolutely will feel the difference of not have Mommy around as much as she’s used to.
As a Mother, if it were my child, I would have elected to work when my child was really small rather than when they were older and more aware…..but that’s just me.
Besides, I’m sure Suri has a full time Nanny anyway, plus there’s always Dad! If Katie would have worked on TDK, Tom and Suri could have easily traveled with her with Dad taking over the daytime child care while Mom worked. It happens all the time!!
Mary
Jul 29, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Jennifer Garner did Broadway as well and her daughter was around the same age as Suri is now when she did so……………………Do the same arguments apply in that situation as well or is it somehow different?
There are many moments you never get back when children are babies, precious moments and no matter what others tell about it being so cute when they did this and that, you as the parent still missed it.
As was the case was with the Afflecks, the Cruise family will be together in NYC.
Anabel
Jul 29, 2008 at 6:37 pm
I’m sure Tom will be right by her side to keep her steady through the All My Sons rehearsals and performances. If they rented that super apartment, then the who Cruise clan will be there for her to come home to each night.
She’s going to be one exhausted mama, I bet!
Anabel
Jul 29, 2008 at 6:38 pm
correction: “whole Cruise clan”
Sorry.
Mary
Jul 29, 2008 at 8:43 pm
As well he should for as much as he can.
I would hope any husband would want to support a wife in such an endeavour.
Being on Broadway is a wonderful accomplishment for Katie.
I think it’s safe to say that the whole Holmes/Cruise clan will be supporting Katie.
Anon.
Jul 29, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Speaking of Broadway, why is she not in NYC practicing?
Mary
Jul 29, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Do we know that she isn’t?
Charlotte Rose
Jul 29, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Jennifer Garner did Broadway as well and her daughter was around the same age as Suri is now when she did so……………………Do the same arguments apply in that situation as well or is it somehow different?
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No. It’s no different, but since this is a TomKat board I didn’t feel it necessary to mention anyone else. How are the Affleck’s relevent? We’re discussing the Cruise’s. I’m not clear on why you’re asking.
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There are many moments you never get back when children are babies, precious moments and no matter what others tell about it being so cute when they did this and that, you as the parent still missed it.
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You’re 100% correct, IMO Mary. That was my point. I think it would have been easier to be away from Suri when she was smaller and DOING LESS. Infants don’t do nearly as much as a toddler nor are they very aware. Not nearly as aware as a toddler of Suri’s age. As a Mother of 3 children, I’m pretty sure about that. :)
My point was it might have been easier for Katie to work on TDK when Suri was very small rather than work so hard on Broadway NOW, when Suri is a toddler who will be more aware of her Mother’s absence. She’s going to miss more now when her daughter is making huge strides on a daily basis than when her child was an infant.
I’m not saying Katie shouldn’t work. Of course she should, but someone mentioned earlier that perhaps she didn’t work on TDK because Suri was too small. I think it would have been easier when Suri was smallm especially when one considers the huge undertaking of a Broadway show. You don’t just show up at the theater each day. Alot of work goes into it before, during and after the shows!
As for the whole family being together, why shouldn’t they be! That’s what families do!
PuckHappy
Jul 29, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Actually Jennifer Garner was on for one week. All of Broadway went dark because of the strike.
Mary
Jul 29, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Suri is Katie’s first child.
Babies are only babies for a very short amount of time. It’s different and new so many things for a first time mother………….Your baby responding to your touch, your smell, your voice.
Suri is almost 2 and a half and there was so much to experience in those very important first years. I for one am glad she took the time to not miss out on it.
Mary
Jul 29, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Jennifer was not on for one week…………….
Cyrano De Bergerac which Garner was in started previews on October 12th, 2007.
The Broadway stagehand strike started November 10th when negotiations failed and ended November 29th, 2007.
Cyrano De Bergerac was to end December 23 but was extended into January of ‘07.
Mary
Jul 29, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Also not all of Broadway went dark because of the strike, there were some shows that continued unaffected notably Mary Poppins and Xanadu, a total of about eight I believe. A different union was responsible for those shows.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 29, 2008 at 10:42 pm
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, Mary.
I think Suri is really going to feel the sudden decline in time with her Mother, while an infant wouldn’t…..but hey, that’s just me! :)
Anon.
Jul 29, 2008 at 11:11 pm
I am sure Suri already is missing ‘Mommy’.
Remember Katie has left Suri when she was a baby. She left to go to Paris shopping several times, she left newborn Suri to join TC on a promotional visit for MI:III, she left Suri to do MAD MONEY, and also quite a bit last year she left Suri to go shopping in Paris, to go to NYC, and L.A. So, I doubt Katie has no qualms leaving Suri for Broadway. Also, all that training for the marathon meant Katie was in the gym, not playing and interacting with Suri. Katie had no qualms leaving little Suri for a couple of weeks to go to NYC last month. I don’t see in any of this that she was called for something like military duty or something similar.
Either way, it is not like she has to work. I for one, stayed home with all my kids…Oh, I am still home with my kiddies. We are able to make it quite well on my hubbie’s income, and he doesn’t make Cruise’s millions every year.
I never understood why women who claim they don’t want to miss thier kid’s lives and then they turn around and leave them with hired help to be raised so they can have their careers. And I also never understood what Mom would take a job on the other side of the country of her child’s home, unless that Mom/Dad was in the military and was called up for duty.
Either way, kids need both parents HOME and consistency. Two year olds do not understand that Mommy has to work long hours for Broadway or leave them for several weeks at a time. All they know is that they have been abandoned and it is felt more keenly at this age because you can’t explain it to them.
(And my comments are about parents and kids in general, not just these two!)
tyler
Jul 30, 2008 at 12:41 am
Anon,
I agree 100%. I don’t get these millionaire women who say kids are the most important things in their lives and then go off and do projects. Would staying at home with their kids be too boring, or what?
IMO.
Lauren
Jul 30, 2008 at 3:15 am
@Anon,
Katie is not the mother of Bella and Connor she is their step mother, I said that already and I do not need to repeat it like a broken record, I was clear on what I commented on so don’t try to second guess my posts.
@Puck,
It is you who is speaking from both sides of your mouth. On one hand you are berating Katie for turning down TDK whe her baby was just a year old then you are castigating her for working when her baby is two. My guess is that like most critics, you just look for a chance to attack Tom and Katie, I doubt you really care about Suri at all. After all you do not hesitate when you call her names.
Lauren
Jul 30, 2008 at 3:24 am
Charlotte,
Your logic that a mother should leave a child when they are less than one year but not when they are two is rather askewed, do you have a child? You would know that from two months, a child appreciates what is going on around them. That time is for bonding before she starts calling nannies ‘mom’ which she can’t at 2! Your argument doesn’t even make sense. Right now Katie would be promoting TDK jumping from one country to another. This after she has had to move around so much. I am sure the same people would be complaining. Atleast With broadway, atleast she gets to be in one place and have her mother on set than hop from hotel to hotel.
Why are we even criticising Katie, she has a right to a career. Garner has never had a break from her career and has shot one movie after another. Katie took a break and in two years she has had one caper movie. What is wrong with that? Drop your magnifying glasses already.
Lauren
Jul 30, 2008 at 3:38 am
And Charlotte, maybe we have different kids but my kids made most of their strides and ‘firsts’ in their first year. I did not want to miss their first smile, laugh, clap, crawl, walk, word etc etc. Apart from talking more at 2 and getting into all sorts of trouble, I don’t remember any ground breaking at that age. Suri will be fine.
Besides, who says Katie is not going to be with Suri on Broadway? Isn’t this another instance of drawing conclusions and attacking this couple over speculation? Didn’t we read that the family is relocating to NY? Why are we even arguing about this. Obviously you don’t care one iota about Suri Cruise. As long as it gives you an opportunity to critise Katie and try to paint out that she is a bad mother.
And no one cares if 80% of marriages end in divorce, the fact is Tom and Katie are married and are still going strong. No point speculating. Most of us fans who love Tom knew that his marriage to Nicole had problems since 1997. But ofcourse we wished him the best. Too bad they split. Tom has never been a philanderer and he still is not. I don’t remember the ‘many’ relationships. I only know 2 after his marriage and one to Pas Vega was so short lived that I think it was just a rumour.
Hana
Jul 30, 2008 at 4:10 am
“Remember Katie has left Suri when she was a baby. She left to go to Paris shopping several times, she left newborn Suri to join TC on a promotional visit for MI:III, she left Suri to do MAD MONEY, and also quite a bit last year she left Suri to go shopping in Paris, to go to NYC, and L.A. ”
Anon.: Katie was in Paris for fashion week for couple of days, NOT several times!
The only time Katie went out to support TC for M:I III was for its LA premiere for couple of hours. When she did MAD MONEY her family including Suri (who was 1 year old at the time when she went back to work) travelled with her and from what I read they were only filming for few weeks. Suri was with her mom and dad when they travelled to NYC few times and Katie didn’t go shopping in Paris last year and they all live in LA.
Let me get this right, are you saying Katie can’t leave her daughter’s sight for couple of hours here and there to promote a movie or to run an errand? If that is the case then all mothers are in trouble.
JayCKat
Jul 30, 2008 at 4:10 am
Ah, but the funny thing is Nicole Kidman also hid her hand and finger from photo shoots when she was married to Tom? Might she also have had purple fingers then?
Annie
Jul 30, 2008 at 4:19 am
you guys are a funny lot, you really are. here is a young woman, whose dream is coming true by appearing on Broadway, and her husband, by looking after Suri is making it easier and smoother for Katie, i’m sure we’ll be seeing the grand mothers as well, because i don’t think somehow Suri has a fulltime nanny, if she has one at all. in 2yrs, Katie has made one movie and now Bway, you all know Angelina has made 4 movies in 2yrs had 4 children and a few nannies the same for JGARNER, but you would’nt dream of saying anything about them, because their name is not Cruise, and seeing that a few think the marriage does’nt have much of a chance anyway, whether its because of TC or the HOLLYWOOD factor, i would have imagined you would have been happy for Katie to have a career to fall back on when the in inevitable happens, and Anon i really think you exaggerated a bit, with the times you said Katie left Suri behind, its pretty obvious to everyone how Suri goes everywhere with her parents especially her mum.
Lauren
Jul 30, 2008 at 8:42 am
Hana and Annie, these people are just to contrary that they got my head spinning.
Katie should have left her child when she was younger to do TDK, then she is bad for going to Paris for a couple of days when her child was younger.
Then she should have done TDK and done promotions around the world but is bad for going for Tom’s promotion for an hour or so.
Believe me, if Katie quit work to raise Suri, the very same people would call her names and calling Tom controlling for preventing her from going back to work. If she had done TDK she would be attacked for doing all those promotions and hopping from one country to another. If she took Suri she would be attacked, if she didn’t she would be attacked. She can never win.
Give me one name of someone in hollywood who is not working because of a two year old child. Even Angelina with six infacts is talking movie projects. (if she is that is, you never know what to believe and what not to)
Mary
Jul 30, 2008 at 8:59 am
:) Lauren your post at 8:42 AM is so true.
Hana
Jul 30, 2008 at 9:05 am
I agree with you there, Lauren. Its like whatever they do they can’t win with some people!
To correct my earlier comment. Katie did go shopping in Paris last year but with SURI!
Anon.
Jul 30, 2008 at 10:06 am
Actually Annie, I do think Jolie is neglecting her kids by running everywhere to do movies and help everyone else’s children. I also don’t think she deserves the accolades she gets because she shows up for the photo op and leaves or for her multinational brood. I don’t get these actresses who have kids for their photographic convience and then dump them because of the latest project or haul them all over the place every other month.
But, when I try to say things this deep here, I keep getting reminded by you, Lauren and Tia that this is not the site for that.
Katie is just like them too. Broadway will be there a few years from now, but 2 year old Suri will not. And Katie and Cruise also have several nannies for Suri too. One nanny has been photographed on several occassions with Suri alone.
Oh. and there are pics of Katie alone in Paris a week or two after the Suri photo op trip. And yes, it was a photo op. One of the mags was called in to take pics of them shopping together. The magazine admitted that it was a photo shoot that day.
Lauren, I have been consistant about criticizing Katie and other actresses for their lack of maternal care about their children. You and some of your cronies can’t stand that the fact that Cruise and Holmes are NOT perfect and that others don’t worship them as gods the way you do.
My head is spinning from the lack of tolerance here for other opinions and for a word like CULT!!
Charlotte Rose
Jul 30, 2008 at 10:26 am
Lauren,
I’m sorry you think my logic is “askewed”. I think yours is, but then again, this entire blog is based on OPINION, isn’t it? Yes….I thought so.
In your upset, you may have missed the part where I said SURI WILL FEEL Katie’s absence more at the age of 27 months than she would have as an infant. I also wasn’t talking about total abandonment by Katie, either when Suri was an infant or now. I talked about LESS of a presence, so IMO your argument is “askewed” and over the top.
I have also never said that Katie does not have a right to a career. My God….you seem to see things that aren’t there. God help anyone who doesn’t share your opinion! LOL!!
It’s my understanding that this site is a discussion blog about Tomkat. I see you using a “magnifying glass” to discuss all aspects of Katie’s life. You just see her in a way some others don’t and without personal knowledge of Katie’s life NONE OF US have the high ground here! I fair to understand why it’s OK to have the “magnifying glass” out only when you consistently agree with everything and anything Katie does.
By the way, in response to your question as to whether I’m a Mom or not, YES I AM. I have three lovely, well adjusted, beautiful children. Thank you for asking. I’m also a working Mom who has chosen a career that’s extremely flexible and allows me to work at home and during times when I can be there for my children, so your argument that I don’t support Katie working is also “askewed”.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 30, 2008 at 10:40 am
Besides, who says Katie is not going to be with Suri on Broadway? Isn’t this another instance of drawing conclusions and attacking this couple over speculation? Didn’t we read that the family is relocating to NY? Why are we even arguing about this. Obviously you don’t care one iota about Suri Cruise. As long as it gives you an opportunity to critise Katie and try to paint out that she is a bad mother.
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I NEVER said Katie wasn’t going to be with Suri. I don’t know who’s post you’re reading, but it isn’t mine.
I also never “attacked” anyone. My Goodness….you do get a bit carried away when anyone has a differing opinion, don’t you? Please calm down!
How is it “obvious” that I don’t care about that darling little girl? That comment makes no sense and is completely devoid of any logic! I have never said an unkind word about any child, let alone Suri. That’s very insulting.
What’s obvious to me is your desire to insult anyone who doesn’t agree with you, even if it means drawing conclusions that don’t exist!
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And no one cares if 80% of marriages end in divorce, the fact is Tom and Katie are married and are still going strong. No point speculating. Most of us fans who love Tom knew that his marriage to Nicole had problems since 1997. But ofcourse we wished him the best. Too bad they split. Tom has never been a philanderer and he still is not. I don’t remember the ‘many’ relationships. I only know 2 after his marriage and one to Pas Vega was so short lived that I think it was just a rumour.
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I was simply stating a FACT regarding the failure of marriages in the US. IMHO, Katie and Tom are not immune to the real world. As I CLEARLY STATED, I hope they never have to deal with a divorce. I would not wish that on my worst enemy! I’m being a realist and stating that they haven’t completely “made it” as someone suggested.
Also, I DID WISH THEM THE BEST…..several times as a matter of fact! You consistently see things that simply do not exist in my posts. Why is that?
I don’t recall ever saying Tom is a “serial philanderer” or anything of the sort. I simply stated the truth: WE had no idea of the inner workings of Tom and Nicole’s marriage and WE have no idea of the inner workings of Tom and Katie’s marriage. They COULD BE the happiest couple alive OR not. I have no clue and neither do you. Further, you or I won’t know unless something happens as it did with Tom and Nicole.
Your constant need to trash anyone who doesn’t agree with you is getting tiresome. You have a right to your opinion, but to IMPLY that you know the inner workings of what I’m thinking by stating all kinds of things that I’ve never said is wearing thin. If you’re going to read my posts, I would appreciate it if you would take them at face value. If I wanted to say something derogatory about Tom and Katie, I would. You really don’t need to make it up as you go along.
tyler
Jul 30, 2008 at 10:43 am
This is a topic I feel strongly about. IMO If a mom can afford it, then she should be a mom, not a career woman until a child goes to school. I have no doubt that KH will look back years from now and see the light. Clearly, she wasn’t ready for motherhood. And, hindsight’s always the kicker.
This has nothing to do with rights!!! It’s about not wanting to leave your child for others to raise if you can help it. But, as I said, hindsight.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 30, 2008 at 10:46 am
One more thing:
There seems to be a pervasive need by some posters to attack anyone who doesn’t agree with them and turn every discussion into a fight.
That gets the thread closed down and effectively ends any interesting DISCUSSION that might have occurred. Could that be the point?
I think we’re all adults here! Why can’t those posters agree to disagree rather than go into attack mode everytime someone remotely discusses anything other than how perfect TomKat are!!
They’re real people, aren’t they? They’re not immune to the problems and difficulties of every day life, are they?
Can we please calm down and DISCUSS politely and not ASSUME all kinds of things, using the things you’ve read on other sites to judge every poster who doesn’t agree with you? It’s not fair.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 30, 2008 at 10:48 am
Hana and Annie, these people are just to contrary that they got my head spinning.
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See? This is what I mean!! “These people”???
We’ve already been lumped into a group!! Some posters are creating an US against THEM attitude that doesn NEED to exist!
Just saying…..
Anabel
Jul 30, 2008 at 11:09 am
I hope while Suri is in NY with the Mapother/Cruise clan that we’ll get lots of opportunities to see her out and about like they did at the time of Mad Money.
I think Tom and Katie are trying to acclimate her to the world of stardom in preparation for her own debut when she is old enough.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 30, 2008 at 11:16 am
I hope we’ll get to see lots of Suri too, Anabel! She’s so cute!! I love seeing pictures of her!!
Anabel
Jul 30, 2008 at 11:18 am
If they get an apartment, then Katie will be coming home every night to be with Suri. Suri is homeschooled so it won’t be a big difference from being in CA. I’m sure every day is filled with important events especially for little Suri. She does have a nanny - how could she not? Katie has her own important duties to fulfill.
Although, I think I read that Bella and Connor live with Tom’s sister, so they are not there for Katie to have to watch over. That really wouldn’t be fair to ask of her since they are Nicole’s kids with Tom, and besides she doesn’t have the time. She’s been looking stressed out enough lately with all that is happening in her life. She is a lucky girl.
Anabel
Jul 30, 2008 at 11:23 am
Ooops, I didn’t mean that she is lucky to be stressed! I meant she is a lucky girl to be married to Tom. (Although, I do think he’s made a grievous error in this Tropic of Thunder movie. He is subjecting himself to more ridicule. And I’d like to see his rep cleaned up, not brought down!)
Anon.
Jul 30, 2008 at 11:32 am
Charlotte Rose: I find myself agreeing quite a bit with what you say.
Anabel: I seriously hope that Suri is not getting too serious of an education, at home or outside. She is two. The only thing she needs in terms of education is interaction with other children and having her parents spend time with her reading, talking, and playing with her.
Curious, what are Katie’s important duties that she has to pawn her kid off on someone else to raise? Shopping, attending the races, working 3 days this summer to provide for her lavish lifestyle, the next photo op, etc. She has to have the bodyguards, Connor, or her mother carry her purse and diaper bag because she can’t do that. Yeah, the poor woman has it hard!!
I must be more hardworking and better than her if I can carry my kids, purse, and diaper bag; cook; clean; find time to exercise; drive the kids everywhere; etc. and all without a nanny and hired help.
Sorry, I don’t buy the hard-working Hollywood actress crap about Katie or any other star. I think those of us who are moms here could run circles around these pampered princessses easily!!
Charlotte Rose
Jul 30, 2008 at 11:37 am
Hi Anabel,
Actually, Katie won’t be home every night. She’ll be at the theater. Afternoons too, but she’ll have her mornings with Suri and her days off! Also, since it seems the whole family is coming to NY, Tom can spend more time with Suri. I assume he’s not working while Katie is. That would be the fair thing to do! Take over childcare duties for awhile. I’m sure she has very good nannies also.
I can’t imagine that Suri is “homeschooled” tho. She’s only 2!! I’m sure they’re doing fun and educational things for her at home but I doubt she’s ready for schooling of any real kind.
I hadn’t heard that Isabella and Conner live with Tom’s sister!! Is that true? I wonder why they wouldn’t live with their Dad or their Mother!? That seems very strange to me! Can you tell me where you heard that?
Charlotte Rose
Jul 30, 2008 at 11:44 am
I can carry my kids, purse, and diaper bag; cook; clean; find time to exercise; drive the kids everywhere; etc. and all without a nanny and hired help.
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Hey Anon.
I cracked up when I read your description of a regular working Mom’s life. So true!! LOL!!
Like me, you sound like a normal, harried Mom and Wife just trying to get everything done and make sure everyone is happy! It’s definitely not easy, but it is worthwhile and lots of fun!
Katie and other Hollywood Moms are lucky that they have the resources to have nannies, cooks, housekeepers….etc. ;)
Charlotte Rose
Jul 30, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Julie,
I’m sorry to put this here.
I tried to contact you via e-mail at the address you gave me and the mail was returned. Perhaps I made an error when I copied the address down.
Would you be kind enough to share it again?
Thanks so much and again, sorry for going Off topic!
tyler
Jul 30, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Did I read that right? “Katie has her own important duties of to fulfill?” Yup, seems I did.
fiona
Jul 30, 2008 at 2:36 pm
I think it’s what you call Raynaud’s phenomenon. I’ve had it since I was 15 and was diagnosed with SLE Lupus when I was 21. It’s one of the main symtoms of it. I have to wear gloves all the time in winter and cos I live in Scotland I’ve even worn gloves in summer when it gets cold which is quite often! Don’t see why it should be such a big deal. Loads of people have it, mostly women.
Julie
Jul 30, 2008 at 3:40 pm
No problem Charlotte. It’s julie.bonner at b5media.com. If it bounces again, let me know. :)
Charlotte Rose
Jul 30, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Ahhhh! I see the problem!! I left out the period between your first and last names!!
Thanks Julie! You’re a sweetie!!
Annie
Jul 30, 2008 at 4:36 pm
i’ve only seen one picture of Suri with a nanny but lots with Toms family in the background so maybe they help look after her and surely nobody believes that Bella and Connor live with Toms sister all the time
Mary
Jul 30, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Bella and Tom live with Tom and Katie!
Mary
Jul 30, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Oops! LOL…….I meant Bella and Conor.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 30, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Bella and Tom live with Tom and Katie!
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Thank you Mary. I thought so!
Anabel
Jul 30, 2008 at 5:11 pm
I wa under the impression that Bella and Connor were living with Tom’s sister so she could homeschool them. Also, that they live with that same sister (I forgot her name) while Tom and Katie travel with Suri. If they do live with Tom and Katie, I apologize for stating something untrue.
Tom and Katie lead very busy lives - being who they are and all. I meant nothing to hurt them by saying that.
tyler
Jul 30, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Anabel,
Oh yeah, I forgot all those things she has to do with no help from anyone anywhere. I’m tired just thinking about it.
Annie
Jul 30, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Tyler and Anon, yes we all brought up our kids , or bringing them up as the case may be, but if you were married to a multi millionair your life and options would be very different, and the way you think would be very different and i’m sure you know that its the time you actually spend with the child thats important, so if Katie can spend 4hrs in a day while in NY concentrating only on Suri, thats much , much more time than an ordinary stay at holme mum has the time to do. people critise tom and katie for taking suri to resturants theatres soccer games, but she’s there with them, they could easily leave her with a nanny , but they don’t, i really think that tom and katie are extremly good parents, and i can imagine that suri has a wonderful loving and fun filled life and i don’t think she’ll miss her mother at all, tom and katie will make sure of that,and if the grandmothers get involved as well, how precious for them and suri
concerned mom
Jul 30, 2008 at 11:51 pm
And Annie, that is exactly why so many celeb kids and kids brought up in great wealth turn out so screwed up. The ones that turn out half way normal are not brought up in that life-style i.e. the Hilton girls vs. the Johnson and Johnson kids. Don’t hear much about them???–they aren’t partying all over the world. When Katie is doing 2 shows a day 6 days a week, when exactly will she have time with Suri?? Along with show time, there will be the getting ready for show time, time spent with the cast, interviews, etc. If she wants to make it on Broadway, she will need to be focused there for the most part. From what I have read, cast members and crew often get very close-spending time together outside of the play. Of course if Tom and Suri are in NY, I imagine she will pretty much kill herself trying to be all things to everyone. Like when she was filming MM, she didn’t spend much time with the cast since on her free time she was flying back and forth to wherever Tom was and when he was in town, they sort of kept apart from the rest of the cast. I think she was once excited about going to NY as she has said in past interviews that she loves the energy of the city and things you can do there, but now it is a different zip-code same life she is living currently.
concerned mom
Jul 30, 2008 at 11:56 pm
And Charlotte Rose, there have been many stories that say Bella and Connor actually live with his sister and NOT with him. If they aren’t living with him and Katie then they need to be living with their mother not a relative of Tom’s. He just bought a $35 million dollar home and spent $15 million on renovations. Should be plenty of room. Did read that his mother and other family members are not living in that house with him, Katie and Suri. Good for Katie if she put her foot down on that one!!! Time for the fam to butt out. Living with that many in-laws would make one batty..
Annie
Jul 31, 2008 at 1:38 am
ConMom, i don’t agree, i think everyone will be pulling their weight for Katie, and both families will be there for her, this is a special time for her, and i could never imagine her not having time suri, julia roberts j garner did it, i think they are good mothers, she’s so lucky to have that backup, and why can’t suri be at the theatre when katie is rehearsing and stuff, there’s always a way around things. just hope she eats well and gets lots of sleep.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 31, 2008 at 1:44 am
concerned mom,
Thanks for the information. I just did a search and I’m now seeing the same stories you are!
I agree that Isabella and Conor should be living with their Mom if they’re not living with Tom and Katie. There’s no reason in the world for them to live with Tom’s sister!!
I never understood the fact that they’re very rarely seen with their Mother either! When Tom was on Oprah, he stated that they see their Mother “whenever” which I found to be a very odd answer! “Whenever” never seems to eventuate. I wonder if it’s the Scientology issue. She’s Catholic and they’re Scientologists. Maybe that keeps them apart!
I hadn’t read that Tom’s family are FINALLY not living with them. I could never understand that situation. It’s one thing to love your family, but to live with them as an adult with a new wife and baby?!?!?! Very strange! After all, it’s not as if it’s a financial issue! LOL!!
Personally, I wouldn’t want to live with my in-laws or parents even though I adore both of them. A young couple needs their privacy.
I have to be honest though, I can’t picture Katie putting her foot down about anything! LOL!
Lauren
Jul 31, 2008 at 3:15 am
Katie had a trailer and lived on the set. Infact Suri came to visit her and there are pictures to show that.
Both Diane Keaton and Queen Latifa said they grew close to Katie and became protective of her. The people in the twon said they liked her and she was gracious. Why tell lies about all this when it was in the media and all over the internet?
Lauren
Jul 31, 2008 at 3:18 am
Bella and Connor were living with Tom’s sister because she schools them and their families were living together anyway till the beginning of this year when Tom and Katie moved to the scientology centre as their house was being renovated. They were also moving around a lot and were in NY for some time. Since then the family has moved into thier new home. Tom’s mother and sister did not move with them. They stayed at the old house.
This is in touch weekly, obviously the story is concocted. But this has never stopped some from attacking this family over such tall tales.
Annie
Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 am
honestly nobody will ever make me believe that Connor and Bella live with their aunty and their house is so huge whats the big deal if toms mother lives with them, paticularly if she’s nice, there’s a lot of advantages having your mother in law with you, and i don’t think katie is quite the pushover everyone thinks she is
Lilianne
Jul 31, 2008 at 7:05 am
This is off the topic of the thread but I wanted to disagree with what someone said about education needs for 2 year olds. I believe it went along the lines of all a 2 year old needs is interaction with other children and being read to and played with. All of those things are definitely important, especially the reading. But children this age have such a huge capacity to learn and can certainly benefit from other things as well. It is very important to develop pre-writing skills like learning how to handle a writing utensil (like a crayon by scribbling on paper) and pre-reading skills be being introduced to letters and following along with their eyes when an adult reads therefore learning that we read left to right. They can be introduced to shapes, colors, numbers and letters. I am not talking about hours a day…..5-10 minutes is sufficient and appropriate…and then maybe not even every day. My point is that educational standards are constantly changing and the requirements only get tougher and more challenging every year…so it is necessary to give your child the tools they need to be successful in school and therefore life..because there is NOTHING more important than education. In my humble opinion.
Anabel
Jul 31, 2008 at 7:17 am
I think that article is trying to make Katie sound like an ungrateful person which she is not. I think Katie has been has been under alot of pressure lately with the play and living on two coasts.
Mom Mapother probably helps Katie quite a bit. What I have heard about the Mapother family is that they work very hard in their church and this is in sync with how Tom and Katie live. Tom needs to get Katie to speak out more freely and not worry so much about what others think!
I’m glad Bella and Connor live with them - that mansion has plenty of room.
A family that prays together, stays together.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 31, 2008 at 10:50 am
Lauren,
No offense, but you need to stop with the moral judgements, especially after the hateful way you treated me last night and the outright lies you told prompting me to contact Julie. My IP is IN FACT different and new to this site.
Puck!
I agree with you! It seems that anything positive that is written is FACT according to SOME over zealous fans, and anything negative is a lie. That seems kinda silly to me since we really don’t know what is fact and what is fiction in most cases.
IMHO, everything is a matter of OPINION, positive or negative.
Julie
Jul 31, 2008 at 10:54 am
I’ve deleted quite a few comments due to unnecessary and off topic arguing. Please stick to the topic of this post.
Charlotte Rose
Jul 31, 2008 at 10:54 am
That reminds me:
Lauren,
Since you had no problem attacking me last night, with misinformed so called “proof”, I fully expect an apology now that you’ve been proven wrong.
That’s the LEAST you could do since you made a point of slandering me and con mom on this very thread in full view of other posters.
This is the last I’ll say about it, but I do feel my request for an apology is justified and fair. I know Julie and this site are all about fairness, which I sincerely appreciate.
Julie
Jul 31, 2008 at 10:57 am
I am closing comments on this post. I can see that this is a touchy subject and that this thread is going no where fast.